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andyd 23-09-2017 11:11

Cheltenham match thread.
 
First of 3 games against 3 of the bottom 4 teams I know the table is only early days would like us to really start on the front foot today and take the game by the scruff of the neck 3 points today and 6 from the 2 away games would warrant an excellent start and after 11 games the table will then start to take shape and hopefully we will have the 2 injured players back for the run in up to xmas.

cashman 23-09-2017 11:43

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3 pts today and 4 from the 2 aways will be a great total for me. though i wont bitch if we get 6 from em,:D

Dav1d 23-09-2017 13:36

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Team news
Champan, Forbes, rawson, Hughes, donacien, conneely, nolan, Clark, McConville, kee, Jackson

Subs
Wolland (gk), dallison, skyes, brown, McLeod, Johnson, wilks

mab 23-09-2017 14:40

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1 - 1 kaydon

Dav1d 23-09-2017 15:15

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1321 attandance, pretty poor!

Dav1d 23-09-2017 15:23

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Jackson off injured, been injured most of the season according to the media, wilks on

Lord Didsbury 23-09-2017 16:09

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Oh dear, what a let down. Really didn't happen for us in the second half after what I thought was a very good first.

Don was MOTM in my humble opinion. Of that I'm sure we agree. Jackson continues to impress.

cashman 23-09-2017 16:23

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First half played ok i thought, second half was like watching a match up Bullough Park, Shocking,Thought Forbes had a real shocker, his distribution was disgraceful, to me shoulda been replaced at half time, yet stayed on the full 90 mins.:confused:Also thought it was daft keeping Jackson on for start of second half, considering we got a game on tuesday, anyone could see he was injured after he scored.:(

maccawozzagod 23-09-2017 16:43

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I'll not bother stating what I thought of that, I'll get banned

choirboy 23-09-2017 17:10

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
I thought that it was a match of two halves today.
First half we were very good and should have been three goals to the good!:theband:
We had two or three penalty shouts
but I don't think that our players helped the referee by trying to dramatically make more of the fouls than was needed! Kayden was electric until he got the injury which occurred a couple of minutes before he scored the equalizer.
We should have subbed him at half time IMHO.

The second half was in total contrast and was a very scrappy affair mainly due to the referee not applying the rules regarding pushing! The longer the match went on the more players on both sides were leaning and pushing and wrestling each other. The referee seemed only to want the game "to flow" by waving appeals for free kicks away and by 'playing on'.:dummy2:

I have seen this referee before and I reckon once again that he will think that he had a good game today as he awarded only seven free kicks against us and only thirteen against Cheltenham and only two players were booked. When will referees like this chap realise that the statistics don't judge whether he had a good game or not it is the quality of the match that does!
He should have been sterner with the players earlier, he could have booked a couple early on and stopped them from playing in this niggly fashion!
Totally frustrated at the end as was 'The Governor' Mark Hughes who was getting really fed up with the referee's inability to apply the rules!
:mad::mad::mad:

Lord Stiffupperlip 23-09-2017 17:57

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Without doubt the poorest performance I've witnessed this season at the Wham.
On Tuesday night, Stanley's reserves managed to surpass a much better side than Cheltenham, but our 'A' team contrived to make them look a half decent team, despite their poor recent form.
Gone was Tuesday's confident display of slick passing.
Gone was the direct attacking football, the speedy wing play.
Instead, we looked like a team of eleven strangers, due largely to the clever game plan adopted by CTFC, who simply pressed us into error after error.
In fact, if it hadn't been for a couple of last ditch saves by Chapman late on, we could easily have lost this game.
Couldn't believe Clark, a natural right-winger & one of our better players, was replaced by McLeod - a natural left-winger???
Likewise Scotty Brown, Tuesday night's dynamo, was brought on in the 85th minute, after Conneely put in a less than impressive performance.
Sorry Mr Coleman, you were out-thought today.
Cheltenham achieved exactly what they came for - a well deserved draw.

AccyMad 23-09-2017 18:35

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Dull match, very flat & dull atmosphere to match it - felt at times like I was watching an end of season game when there's nothing to play for.
Hopefully, a blip & we forget it & move on.

chevyfire 23-09-2017 19:03

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Kee and Jackson continued to look lethal combining up front. But when kayden was forced of we didn't look the same team and could not get are mojo going in the second half. Wilkes and Forbes (occasionally looked good going forward but gave ball away far to often in bad positions) who looked good on Tuesday against an u21, struggled when taking on the seniors of Cheltenham. I feel abit sorry for Jonny edwards, he seems at least on par as a player to wilks for me. Clark had a few good moments but was knocked of the ball very easily quite a few times today. As I have mentioned before every league 2 game is a battle and if you don't scrap hard enough you won't get the 3 points.

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chevyfire 23-09-2017 19:05

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P.s. I agree the crowd was a bit flat today. I would like more Clayton Ender's to have joined in singing. When we create an atmosphere I do think it lifts the players and gives the team an extra few percent. I like the kayden Jackson song a few lads where singing!

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Revived Red 23-09-2017 22:37

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
I have seen Stanley twice this season. The first time was at Yeovil, the second was today. Clearly I am the reason for the poor performances. :(:(:(

monkey hanger 24-09-2017 07:02

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1202007)
Dull match, very flat & dull atmosphere to match it - felt at times like I was watching an end of season game when there's nothing to play for.
Hopefully, a blip & we forget it & move on.

and feeling the worst about the game.missed yesterday after feeling more than a bit under the weather after a week back in monkey hanger land . certain games in a season seem to have less quality than others. never seen a good game with cheltenham or yeovil involved. stanley always seem to get dragged down to teams levels and feel more optimistic when we play the so called better sides.

Exile on Spencer St 24-09-2017 08:52

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
We've all heard the old adage about Stanley playing better against good teams but, notwithstanding how such talk must incentivise so-called "worse" teams (and there rarely are any in the professional leagues), unless the team and management can figure out a way of overcoming sides which come to stop Stanley playing their 'beautiful' game there will be more teeth-gnashing at The Crown. But, however disappointing the performance, at least it was a draw and one more point towards the first target of the season.

Exile on Spencer St 24-09-2017 08:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1202018)
I have seen Stanley twice this season. The first time was at Yeovil, the second was today. Clearly I am the reason for the poor performances. :(:(:(

How much to stay away from FGR, Bernard? :rolleyes:

andyd 24-09-2017 09:43

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It appears Jackson has,nt been fully fit from the start of the season what a player he,ll be fit so time to rest him and get him mended give somebody else a crack tuesday night and move on to another game today we were,nt at our best for whatever reason but we managed a draw last season we would have lost that no easy games at this level we are a young side and will slowly learn and improve you don,t become a poor side on 1 game just a mention for Chapman who get,s a lot of stick he saved the points yesterday with a world class save at the death.

Revived Red 24-09-2017 10:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1202030)
How much to stay away from FGR, Bernard? :rolleyes:

The good news is that I can't go to FGR!! :)

SamF 24-09-2017 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1202033)
It appears Jackson has,nt been fully fit from the start of the season what a player he,ll be fit so time to rest him and get him mended give somebody else a crack tuesday night and move on to another game today we were,nt at our best for whatever reason but we managed a draw last season we would have lost that no easy games at this level we are a young side and will slowly learn and improve you don,t become a poor side on 1 game just a mention for Chapman who get,s a lot of stick he saved the points yesterday with a world class save at the death.

Have you seen the highlights?

It was a good save, but not world class and in my opinion no where near enough to make up for his terrible effort for their goal.

He could've stood still and saved the damned shot he dived out of the way of it!

Lord Stiffupperlip 24-09-2017 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1202058)
Have you seen the highlights?
It was a good save, but not world class and in my opinion no where near enough to make up for his terrible effort for their goal.
He could've stood still and saved the damned shot he dived out of the way of it!

Don't think you can blame Chapman for their goal.
Eisa outmuscled Forbes in the box & hit it almost at point blank range over Chapmans head. He certainly didn't 'dive out the way'.
If Jackson had scored it we'd all be celebrating a brilliant goal.
As for his last minute save. World class or not - it was the difference between one point & none!

Crown Grounder 25-09-2017 06:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1202068)
Don't think you can blame Chapman for their goal.
Eisa outmuscled Forbes in the box & hit it almost at point blank range over Chapmans head. He certainly didn't 'dive out the way'.
If Jackson had scored it we'd all be celebrating a brilliant goal.
As for his last minute save. World class or not - it was the difference between one point & none!

Hear.......Hear.......Mi Lord! Let's not start blaming who did what when. Good tactics by Gary Johnson stopped us playing our normal game, and we were below par on Saturday. Two away games gives Coley a chance to sort their heads out..... before two key home games (ignoring the Trophy!).

cashman 25-09-2017 08:14

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Have to say i thought Chappers was at fault, until i saw the highlights, in fact watched it about 4/5 times, no way was it.

Inspector Morse 25-09-2017 09:20

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Anyone know why Conneely was taken off with only 5 mins to go?
Is he injured or was it tactical?

If it was tactical it was a bit late in the day.

AccyMad 25-09-2017 11:26

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SamF (Post 1202058)
Have you seen the highlights?

It was a good save, but not world class and in my opinion no where near enough to make up for his terrible effort for their goal.

He could've stood still and saved the damned shot he dived out of the way of it!

Didn't only see the highlights, saw the whole game live at the Crown - did you?
Seems for some people Chapman is the new whipping boy - the highlights only showed one of the two brilliant saves he made close together towards the end of the match

Lord Stiffupperlip 25-09-2017 12:32

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Who'd be a goalie eh???
Goals aren't always conceded when they pass the goalkeepers hands.
Sometimes they're created in the opponents penalty area, from a mistake or a miss-pass.
Last year, Chapman spent all season warming the bench.
The only time he got on the field was a half-time kick about with the subs
But he always had a smile on his face & accepted his no.2 role with good grace.
He may not be the best keeper in league 2, but he's our keeper & the only one we've got.
I for one think he's played well so far this season.
Let's all give the guy a break.

Lord Didsbury 25-09-2017 12:59

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Lord Stiff - I think you have summed Chappers up nicely.
I have to admit that from what I saw of him last year he massively unnerves me and deep down I know I would welcome Jeff back with open arms. That might just be paranoia on my part.

However, I do like his attitude and have to say that he hasn't made any out and out blunders of late. Maybe he could have done a bit better with a couple of goals (debateable) but no doubt the same could be said of many a keeper.

He's doing a decent job, playing as well as his abilities allow and you can't have a go at a chap for that.

cashman 25-09-2017 13:03

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1202093)
Didn't only see the highlights, saw the whole game live at the Crown - did you?
Seems for some people Chapman is the new whipping boy - the highlights only showed one of the two brilliant saves he made close together towards the end of the match

I doubt very much if he was at the game, everyone yon knows damn well there were 2 good saves near the end, yet sam dont seem too.:rolleyes:

Inspector Morse 25-09-2017 13:34

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Lord Stiff- Chapman was effectively our no1 till Rodak came in (January).
He wasn't up to it last season and doesn't look good enough this season hence why we've brought in 2 other keepers.
Not having a go at him he's a good bloke (and our only fit keeper)and I'm sure he's doing his best and I would love nothing more than to be proved wrong.

cashman 25-09-2017 14:24

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
How can that be the reason we have brought in other keepers?:rolleyes: Do you suggest we only have 1?:rolleyes:

Revived Red 26-09-2017 12:36

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1202097)
doesn't look good enough this season.

He has made some brilliant saves this season.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1202097)
Not having a go at him

Of course you are. You are like those people who preface a statement by "Without being disrespectful...." and then utter words of total disrespect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1202097)
I would love nothing more than to be proved wrong.

I would have thought that those two awesome saves near the end on Saturday proved you wrong. But I strongly suspect that nothing he does could ever prove you wrong.

Inspector Morse 26-09-2017 12:55

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
No denying he's made some great saves and kept us in the game at times eg Notts County.

Overall not good enough- that's why we brought the guy in from Sunderland.

Again though, would love to be proved wrong.

cashman 26-09-2017 13:17

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1202137)
No denying he's made some great saves and kept us in the game at times eg Notts County.

Overall not good enough- that's why we brought the guy in from Sunderland.

Again though, would love to be proved wrong.

Rubbish we brought the guy in from Sunderland cos we had only 1 keeper. plus a kid.

Inspector Morse 26-09-2017 13:26

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'Rubbish we brought the guy in from Sunderland cos we had only 1 keeper. plus a kid.'


We brought the guy from Sunderland in as our No1 with Chapman as back up. That's why he replaced Chapman against the Shrimps.

cashman 26-09-2017 13:29

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
The loan was only till Jan?

Inspector Morse 26-09-2017 13:50

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From the website. Unless the impact referred to was Matt Macey I'd say he was brought in to be No1.

'Accrington Stanley have taken Polish goalkeeper Max Stryjek on loan until the end of the season.

Manager John Coleman said: “We have beaten off a couple of clubs to get him which is a coup for Accrington as we usually get the last pick.

“He is highly thought of, he has played for Polish Under 21s. Hopefully he will have the same impact as goalkeepers at Accrington have had in the past.” '

cashman 26-09-2017 13:57

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Fair enough thought was only till Jan.

Inspector Morse 27-09-2017 08:21

Re: Cheltenham match thread.
 
Pleased to say Chapman was solid against Port Vale.


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