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cashman 16-10-2017 14:13

Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Would be a great 3Pts fer us tomorrow, noticed Exeter v Luton.:) lets hope the reds do it, we owe them swines one anyhow.

Inspector Morse 16-10-2017 14:44

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
4 points from the next 2 would see us bang on for automatics.is that too hopeful?

Chrisr 16-10-2017 21:39

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
We should pick up 6 points from the next two games if we a re serious contenders for promotion. Stevenage have been a bogey team for us for some time. We can and should beat them. then we will be up there with the best.

MikeA 16-10-2017 22:08

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Stevenage's manager on the club's site:

“We play a really good side on Tuesday. Tactically, when I researched this game and watched Accrington play Luton, I thought Accrington were the better side for large parts of the game.

“If we think we’re going to turn up and play someone lower down – we’re playing as good a side as we played today on Tuesday night.”

accybeme 17-10-2017 11:42

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is this the lift your top and show us your bra club

AccyMad 17-10-2017 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accybeme (Post 1203096)
is this the lift your top and show us your bra club

Yep, that's them.- friendly lot :rolleyes:

Lord Didsbury 17-10-2017 17:25

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Anyone actually going to this ere local derby? I'm currently on the commuter express from Kings Cross, with the first destination being Wetherspoons for a burger and Devil's Backbone.

The excitement levels are currently at max.

cashman 17-10-2017 18:31

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Stanley unchanged, lets hope for a similar performance.

Tom D 17-10-2017 19:02

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Early chances for sean and seamus. If we can get an early goal, Stevenage heads might drop following the thrashing at the weekend! Come on Stanley!

Tom D 17-10-2017 19:04

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Get IN!!!! Clark

cashman 17-10-2017 19:05

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Magic start, cmon you stanley boys keep at it.:)

Tom D 17-10-2017 19:09

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Sounds like we are all over them, more chances for Sean and Kayden - need to make these count!!!

ferret man 17-10-2017 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1203140)
Sounds like we are all over them, more chances for Sean and Kayden - need to make these count!!!

Have you got it on radio

cashman 17-10-2017 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1203140)
Sounds like we are all over them, more chances for Sean and Kayden - need to make these count!!!

Agree, but long as Satanage dont count any, i'd settle fer that.;)

Tom D 17-10-2017 19:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1203141)
Have you got it on radio

No, can't get the FM frequency in Cheshire - just from looking at BBC/twitter

ferret man 17-10-2017 19:23

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ok ta

cashman 17-10-2017 19:32

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Half Time 0-1 Stanley. so far so good.

Phil Whalley 17-10-2017 19:51

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
So far so good. Were on top first 20 mins, more even thereafter. Close in possession terms but they haven't tested Chappers yet.

maccawozzagod 17-10-2017 19:54

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sounds like cheltenham, Luton, coventry ....

cashman 17-10-2017 20:05

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1-1 :(

cashman 17-10-2017 20:06

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1-2 Penalty Stanley Billys 50th.

Inspector Morse 17-10-2017 20:07

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Chapman let one through his legs, penalty from Conneely?
Whats going on down there?

mab 17-10-2017 20:07

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50th up good lad Billy

Lord Didsbury 17-10-2017 20:11

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There's a bit of a feeling we can score at will here. Could do with getting another and not getting complacent.

ferret man 17-10-2017 20:12

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How many Stan-fans

cashman 17-10-2017 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1203153)
There's a bit of a feeling we can score at will here. Could do with getting another and not getting complacent.

If we could score another couple, could go second tonight,

Inspector Morse 17-10-2017 20:21

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Come on boys results really going for us at minute.

B*ll*x

cashman 17-10-2017 20:27

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2-2 :(We need to convert more of what we create imho.

cashman 17-10-2017 20:32

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3-2 satanage unreal:mad:

mab 17-10-2017 20:32

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3-2 :(

Exile on Spencer St 17-10-2017 20:34

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3-2 boo!

cashman 17-10-2017 20:40

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Lost 3-2:( results went our way n we cocked it up.

choirboy 17-10-2017 20:43

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How on earth did we throw this match away?:mad:

Exile on Spencer St 17-10-2017 20:44

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Clearly, playing teams away just after they've been hammered by Luton isn't working.:mad:

Exile on Spencer St 17-10-2017 20:48

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3 goals from 4 shots on target from Satanage! :(:mad:

Inspector Morse 17-10-2017 20:55

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Did we drop off in the last 10 mins and let them build a head of steam by any chance or were they as spawny as the stats suggest?

Lord Didsbury 17-10-2017 20:59

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Just let it slip. Very frustrating.

they are not a good team but credit to them for working their way back into it and capitalung with the few chances they had. I thought we seemed a bit light in the centre of midfield today but otherwise no one really played badly.

Big Ben should have buried a header right at the end (well that's what it looked like as I rose from my seat to acclaim the equaliser).

Phil Whalley 17-10-2017 21:25

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We shouldn't have let it slip. We had numerous chances to clear our lines before their second and the winner was ridiculous, conceding approx 5 seconds after launching a free kick into their half. Three decent finishes from them, but all were unchallenged. Poor 2nd half from us, no response to an increase in tempo from them. Agree we had no forward momentum from centre-mid. They were a shadow of some of the snarling, aggressive Stevenage sites we've battled against in the past. We let them back into it.

Dav1d 17-10-2017 21:48

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Cooley is fuming and rightly so, not happy we have conceded 20 goals this season, one thing we know from the conference winning season we never make it easy for ourselves.

Lord Didsbury 18-10-2017 06:25

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Coley, in his interview, says he's definitely making changes on Saturday and one or two players have become too comfortable.

Who will that be? Rawson back in? Wilks given more of a run, or possibly McCleod? Brown back?

I don't see any obvious contenders to be dropped.

Crown Grounder 18-10-2017 06:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1203177)
Coley, in his interview, says he's definitely making changes on Saturday and one or two players have become too comfortable.

Who will that be? Rawson back in? Wilks given more of a run, or possibly McCleod? Brown back?

I don't see any obvious contenders to be dropped.

I don't think it matters who gets dropped, it's the message that it sends to a he players. Perhaps drop Jackson, Nolan and the Don to the bench and bring in Wilkes, Brown and Forbes?

Phil Whalley 18-10-2017 08:36

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I'd be surprised if Kayden was fit for Saturday, he was limping before the end of the game and should have been taken off. Even if he's one of those lads who wants to carry on no matter what, his longer-term fitness and his future availability for the team ought to be the priority. At the back, with Hughesy and Ben in the middle, we're susceptible to nippy strikers getting in behind us, particularly on the counter, such as Godden last night. As much as I appreciate both of these lads, maybe we need a slight re-jig at the back, especially if the oppo have pace up front rather than height.

Inspector Morse 18-10-2017 08:39

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I bet the coach back last night was a right good laugh.

I think Coley's threat to drop players was made a bit too soon after the game when still
hurting. I can't see who he would drop from our strongest XI. The team nearly got a point from Stevenage which would have been a good result so we can't have played badly, surely.

McCleod and Sousa are impact players so can't see either starting away to Crewe. so no changes in the wide men.

Kee while suffering from new contractitis on Saturday is our fulcrum. Jackson doesn't look 100% but is critical In terms of pace and movement.

Centre halves OK, Centre mid- no alternatives. Tinkering with the full backs- maybe.

keep the faith 18-10-2017 08:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown Grounder (Post 1203178)
I don't think it matters who gets dropped, it's the message that it sends to a he players. Perhaps drop Jackson, Nolan and the Don to the bench and bring in Wilkes, Brown and Forbes?


Are you having a laugh???

Tom D 18-10-2017 09:16

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He'll have to make at least one change now, not doing would undermine his authority and never be taken seriously if uses that threat again.
Wasn't at the game last night but based on performances so far this season we seem weakest at left back and right wing. Sometimes centre midfield goes missing, but can't drop Nolan - only real physical presence - and can't drop the captain.

Also don't think it's time for panic stations yet. If we had been offered this position at beginning on the season, think everyone would have taken it, given how poorly we started last season.

AccyMad 18-10-2017 09:25

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I wasn't there but, based on Saturday's game against Coventry I think we should keep the same starting eleven & use last night's disappointment as a catalyst against Crewe - there were a few strange results last night with the bottom three winning against higher opposition, couldn't help but think of my conversation with a Coventry fan after our game who said "after that result thank god we've got Forest Green at home on Tuesday, we're bound to win that" . . . . . erm, no! Doesn't always go to plan as we well know, roll on Saturday!
Personally, I blame the new strip :hidewall::rolleyes:

maccawozzagod 18-10-2017 10:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1203186)

Also don't think it's time for panic stations yet. If we had been offered this position at beginning on the season, think everyone would have taken it, given how poorly we started last season.

By the same token it'd be a shame to do nothing and possibly let this great opportunity pass us by.

Jacksons obviously not fit so Wilks or Edwards should be a straight replacement.

Rawson did little wrong but is another loanee so if he comes in another would have to drop out.

Strydek should be fit, but again is another loanee ...

Would like to see McLeod get a couple of games, decent wide pitch at Crewe would suit him.

Tom D 18-10-2017 10:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1203191)
By the same token it'd be a shame to do nothing and possibly let this great opportunity pass us by.

Jacksons obviously not fit so Wilks or Edwards should be a straight replacement.

Rawson did little wrong but is another loanee so if he comes in another would have to drop out.

Strydek should be fit, but again is another loanee ...

Would like to see McLeod get a couple of games, decent wide pitch at Crewe would suit him.

I meant let's not get too downhearted after last night :) not don't make changes. Agree, with above - if we could somehow make 1 loan a permanent deal would make life easier. McLeod for Clark.

6 points from next 2 games puts us well back on track, 4 points wouldn't be a disaster.

Inspector Morse 18-10-2017 10:45

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Re: McLeod for Clark.

Seems a bit harsh after a goal and an assist in 2 games (tho did not see him last night). How about McLeod for Jackson? Can't be good for the lad playing through whatever injury he's got.

Tom D 18-10-2017 10:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Inspector Morse (Post 1203194)
Re: McLeod for Clark.

Seems a bit harsh after a goal and an assist in 2 games (tho did not see him last night). How about McLeod for Jackson? Can't be good for the lad playing through whatever injury he's got.

Maybe. Clark has probably been the weakest link in the 4 attacking players so far, despite the goal and assist. He does seem to be able to beat the first defender, then either keep his head down and run into trouble, or unable to put in a decent cross. Not saying he's been dreadful, just not fantastic. Maybe Sousa deserves a chance.

Exile on Spencer St 18-10-2017 11:00

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Couldn't make the game last night but, from the agonies of following the 'live' :confused: text and others comments, including Professor Coleman, it seems that the problem wasn't the right wing; it was the defence.
As Inspector Morse noted, Clark scored the goal last night and laid on Saturday's winner.
There are options available in defence, so imagine that's where changes will be made.
Midfield changes are more problematic. Scott Brown can be very effective in getting the ball, but he's not the most creative.
Playing an injured Jackson does seem to be a risky strategy. Unless his 'injury' is one that will never improve, I'd rather see him rested so that, when he does play, he's at his best.

cashman 18-10-2017 11:07

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Cannot agree oer Clark, think Jackos injury aint doing anyone any favours, needs resting until everything clears, shame but thats life.

Tom D 18-10-2017 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1203196)
Couldn't make the game last night but, from the agonies of following the 'live' :confused: text and others comments, including Professor Coleman, it seems that the problem wasn't the right wing; it was the defence.
As Inspector Morse noted, Clark scored the goal last night and laid on Saturday's winner.
There are options available in defence, so imagine that's where changes will be made.
Midfield changes are more problematic. Scott Brown can be very effective in getting the ball, but he's not the most creative.
Playing an injured Jackson does seem to be a risky strategy. Unless his 'injury' is one that will never improve, I'd rather see him rested so that, when he does play, he's at his best.

True, but defence also relies on possession, and losing the ball in a decent attacking position whilst the rest of the team is far up the pitch can really hurt your team.

Or maybe this is all meaningless conjecture and Coleman will undermine himself and put out the same team like he does every week! :D :D

AccyMad 18-10-2017 12:18

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You know what's so refreshing in this thread - of all the changes that have been suggested as possibilities, no-one has mentioned Sean McConville - maybe he's doing enough at the minute to win over any of his doubters, long may it continue :)

cashman 18-10-2017 12:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1203199)
You know what's so refreshing in this thread - of all the changes that have been suggested as possibilities, no-one has mentioned Sean McConville - maybe he's doing enough at the minute to win over any of his doubters, long may it continue :)

All any of us want from him is consistency, and that seems to have happened. defo long may it continue.

Tom D 18-10-2017 15:17

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Sean has been playing pretty well since about Feb/March - corners have dramatically improved, and now chipping in with the occasional goal to his assists. Can't see him losing his spot.

cashman 18-10-2017 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom D (Post 1203204)
Sean has been playing pretty well since about Feb/March - corners have dramatically improved, and now chipping in with the occasional goal to his assists. Can't see him losing his spot.

Our thoughts exactly,from back end of last season we thought hes certainly picked up.;)

Lord Didsbury 18-10-2017 18:01

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
If I recall, our excellent first half against Coventry was very much a product of working hard when not in possession and plenty of movement when we were. First half last night we were very effective with the ball and posed them enough problems for them to ever get going.

In both second halfs my impression is of them getting more control on the match. Our defence holding firm. Ok, last night we shipped three goals but I'm not sure these were attributable to the defence.

I think our problems, such as they are, are midfield related. Can't say either midfielder is a bad player - in fact, at times they play well - I just have my doubts whether they are strong enough to keep the overall energy of the team going 90 mins week after week.

I don't think Brown is the answer. I don't think there is an answer, apart from somehow adapting the team to compensate.

Maybe Coley has in mind getting more out of them by an Exocet up the rear end in the form of dropping the pair of them....or maybe I'm way off the mark and his godlike genius will move in other mysterious ways.

Chrisr 18-10-2017 18:26

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I think coley was right in his post match interview when he said some players have become to comfortable. I wold suggest he has a good long look at his striker options. We have a potentially excellent strike force on the bench, We also have some decent players like Malki and our own academy players like Ogle who can play at this level and just need the chance. We have the players, We need the game plan and a plan B. We can still win promotion if we keep the faith. After Christmas is the time to take serious stock of our real chances.

cashman 18-10-2017 19:12

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Think he was referring to Mid-field meself,? as fer strikers i only see jacko who seems NOT to be over his injury.

Lord Stiffupperlip 18-10-2017 20:20

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Watch it & Weep!
Link below to the highlights (& lowlights) from last night - hope it works?
As against Coventry, Luton etc. we seem only too capable of dominating play for 45 minutes, then crumble when the opposition up their work rate in the second half.
On the night, a draw against our bogey team would have more than acceptable - but we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/league-two/11086082/stevenage-3-2-accrington

VALAIRIAN 18-10-2017 23:11

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
Just looking at their 3rd goal again and I cannot help but think that if the roles were reversed, Conneely would have taken their player out at the start of the move...

Not in anyway saying that is the way to play, but we have seen it time and again against us :(

monkey hanger 19-10-2017 08:29

Re: Stevenage Match Thread.
 
[QUOTE=Lord Stiffupperlip;1203218
On the night, a draw against our bogey team would have more than acceptable - but we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

got to win at crewe now. if we do then we can quickly forget the stevenage game as 3 points from two away games is good for me. drawing many games is pointless with 3 for a win. at home 2 wins and a defeat in three games will be an imrpovement on all the draws we go the last couple of seasons.

Exile on Spencer St 19-10-2017 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1203222)
Just looking at their 3rd goal again and I cannot help but think that if the roles were reversed, Conneely would have taken their player out at the start of the move...

Not in anyway saying that is the way to play, but we have seen it time and again against us :(

Thought that myself, Val, when I watch it but, on balance, I'd rather support players who's first instinct isn't to foul. I just wish some refs saw it the same way.


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