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A vital 3 points against one of the stronger promotion contenders.
Disappointed both Big Ben & Rodgers were not in the starting eleven, especially after a rather nervy start. Kee's penalty seemed to settle our nerves & when Jackson put us 2-0 up, we moved into 2nd automatic spot. Their penalty moved us back to 3rd below Wycombe, but hey-ho! it could have been worse if the blighters had managed to equalise. The important thing is that we've managed to win our game in hand. Another battling display by the whole team with Captain McConville & Kee on the receiving end of some atrocious fouls. Well done to the club for making sure the game went ahead & well done to our players for keeping our dream alive. |
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Echo previous comments by cashy and accy mad about hard fort win against tough opposition. Very good team performance particularly defensive. We stood upto a firm examination mainly aerially (which in our are early back in football league years we would have struggled with) and mainly kept discipline when Swindon resorted to crude fouls. Impressed how we used kayden's pace to counter attack to in second half. Let's just keep grinding out the 3 point results! I was pleased how we sung the team home last 10 minutes.
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Scratching my head who to award the Official Lord Didsbury MOTM award to.
The Don, Seany, Billy....? Think I might award it to Nolan tonight. Well done Liam, your prize is in the post. #justiceforBen |
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It was indeed a very hard earned three points tonight against a team basically made of CHEATS and officiated by a DISGRACE of a REFEREE!:eek::eek::eek:
The number of fouls that Swindon got a way with in the first half for basically 'Pushing' opponents off the ball was unbelievable! The ref could have controlled this better by booking a Swindon player after 20 or 25 minutes. Well it certainly bit the Ref in 'The Bum' in the second half because by that time he had lost control of the players totally. :dflam::dflam::dflam:To the credit of the Stanley players they continued to try to play proper football and fully deserved the victory. All of our front players defended from the front superbly, constantly chasing 'lost causes' in order to disrupt Swindon from building their attacks. You would not have believed that Jordan Clarke was a doubt for the match as he worked so hard. Kayden too ran himself into the ground once again and was really tired before he was subbed. I am so pleased that he got his goal which he took wonderfully from a great pass from Captain Sean. Sean had a super match too and he was all over the pitch filling in defensively and linking well going forward. Billy Kee....well he was just "BILLY"....... the Billy that we all love......Brave, Strong and Skilful and his penalty was taken with aplomb, sending their keeper so far the wrong way that he could have been on the other side of the moon! :theband: The young lads in the team too played wonderfully well and are showing the total commitment shown by our more senior players. Liam, Callum and Jimmy are all showing how they can deal with the extra pressures of playing against seasoned professionals who know how to manipulate referees. Jimmy was particularly strong :hidewall:against the very dangerous and clever Marc Richards.:ninja8: Scotty nearly scored a cracker just before half time. Janoi was his usual athletic self and covered really well across the back of our defence when needed. Hughesey had a couple of dodgy moments early on when he kept demanding the short pass out from Chapman. Eventually Aaron reduced the risk by adopting more of a long kick to Billy approach which seemed to be more sensible on the dodgy pitch. Aaron too made a couple of important saves especially the one from that long 'Pot shot' that could have been creeping inside the post. Aaron's kicks upfield to Billy are very accurate and help us to keep the pressure on our opponents.:wave8: I get so frustrated with the inconsistency of referees at our level but our team are certainly showing the CHARACTER that is needed to overcome these referees ineptitude and to press onwards towards the top of the division! Really well done to the team and John and Jimmy for overcoming such difficult opponents, and a yet another poor referee, and continuing our drive towards greater heights.:theband: ON STANLEY ON.:mosher: WE SHALL OVERCOME.:mosher: KEEP THE FAITH.:mosher: NOW SEND US TO COVENTRY!:mosher: :theband::cheers::s_gupjump:s_gupjump:wave8::signb eer::drink: ps Well done to Buzza and his helpers for making sure that the pitch was playable. It is really heavy work dragging those covers on and off the pitch every few days at this time of the year!:wave8: |
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You’ve got to be joking about the ref, right?
Apart from their rather soft penalty and not their playing being unlucky to be sent off he was spot on with everything else. |
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Took me a lifetime to get the result-phone ran out of data, and when I rang 'She that must be obeyed' to get the FT score-she was to busy to speak (the cheek of it !!)...she finally returned the call an hour or so after final whistle and upon request gave me the FT result. Great stuff Super Stanley.Onwards. :):)
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Utter tripe? Not punishing them? He Awarded us 17 fouls, showed them 4 yellow cards and one red!
We commented at half time what a fair and clean contest it was up to that point. You’ve got to bear in mind that some Stanley players do go to ground rather easily at times. I thought the ref did well to spot the actual fouls. |
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If I went to the Swindon fans forum I’d be guaranteed find people wittering about how the ref was too harsh, on here he wasn’t harsh enough.
It’s the same with every game. Fans shout and get angry cos a ref didn’t give a foul and other fans get angry it was a dive. Go to a match as a neutral and you will see how ludicrous fans are when judging a ref. I’m baffled by it. Just people who see things in black and white, and have no ability for impartiality I suppose. |
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over the years have been to many games as a neutral, and to me for reasons i cannot grasp, the standard of refs has gone to pot.
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Be interesting if all the teams in the auto and playoff places below Luton won their game in hand.
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What really beats me about Official Standards declining is the fact when i was young there was only the Ref @ Liners, not perfect but not that bad, Now they have the 4Th official,are introducing VAR, yet the standard has declined.:confused: Wish someone could tell me, how the hell thats the case?
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After that foul on seany, I commented it was a yellow card and a half. Could have gone either way.
Why do you think standards have gone down? I used to watch loads of live footy in the 80s-90s, then started again 3 years ago. Without question the playing standard has improved massively, and, whilst I can't be sure, it seems the ref standards have also improved considerably. I'd be very surprised if the standard of lines people haven't improved. I'm amazed how well they can accurately judge offside with the rules about interfering with play as they are. I know there's loads of news articles and pundits who would back you up to say that standards have declined, but like many things in life those views may well just be as a result of incorrect perceptions. For example, many people mistakenly think crime is worse now than it was in the 80s/90s when it has in fact been vastly reduced. I'm pretty sure that there is some limited research that shows refs have improved. i shall endeavor to find it. |
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Personally i think the "FEW" women that run the lines,do a better job than most of the blokes.
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Tend to agree with Lord Didders, although there is always the Kettle factor:eek:.
Obviously, the 'cost' of a mistake by a ref is greater than it was, so owners and managers are now often the first to criticise refs. Especially Premier League refs. The media even have retired refs critiquing current refs. So slagging off refs seems to be even more accepted than it ever was. In addition, players are now much more likely to cheat, including play acting to get their 'fellow' professionals sent off. In days gone by, the same end was achieved by hacking down an attacking opponent (usually by a half-back, put in the team for the very purpose). On the whole, such blatant hackers have been purged from professional football, but refs now have to deal with all sorts of less obvious fouls. |
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Many of those last night were pretty obvious to us, but ignored.
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A refs job today is far more difficult than it was years ago. Yesteryear ?? players were told "If someone hurts you don't let him know, get up smile and get on with it". Today lots of, not all, players are soft cheats and encouraged by their useless managers. If I was still reffing today I think I would be tearing my hair out, I see some of them have done? at some of the antics these players get up to. I hate refs but I certainly sympathize with the job they have, also some of the directions given to them by the sweet F.A.
By the way L.D. crime is far worse today than when I was growing up. |
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Lord D....
So sorry that we cannot agree about the standard of the refereeing last night. In my comments I referred to Swindon as being a team that played like CHEATS. This is a reference to the very clever and devious number of incidents throughout the match that were the 'Not So Obvious Type of Fouls' that someone else referred to and that largely went unpunished by the referee. The number of times that supporters around me claimed for free kicks when a Swindon player pushed and/or leaned on one of our players would have amounted to something like 35+ free kicks that should have been awarded to Stanley. This style of play was pratised by most of the Swindon players and looked to me as if it was a clear plan to literally 'knock our team off balance' in our desire to play constructive and entertaining football. This is exactly the type of foul play that is difficult for referees to pick up but it was clearly and visibly pointed out to him by our Captain Sean Mac on a number of occasions. I still say that had the referee booked one or possibly two Swindon players half way through the first half then he would have kept better control in the second half, which he totally lost! Of course this can be charged as being seen through 'Red Tinted' spectacles but when any team like Stanley wants to play constructive football, which is John Coleman's Mantra, then they should be encouraged/ allowed to by the referee. Consider these statistics from the BBC Sport website coverage, here are a few things to note; 1) Swindon had 8 free kicks awarded against them for fouls in the first half.... (Everyone around me seemed to think it should have been much more than double that number!) Stanley had just five free kicks awarded against them for fouls in the first half. 2) In the second half Swindon had 10 free kicks awarded against them for fouls plus the one for 'Violent Contact' which also brought the Red Card out! (It should have been many more IMHO.) Stanley had only three free kicks awarded against them for fouls plus the one for Billy's hand ball when he fell on the ball! 3) Jordan Clarke committed only one foul in the whole match, of an accidental nature, and was given a Yellow Card right at the start of the second half! Marc Richards for Swindon committed five fouls in the match but got no Yellow Card! 4) In the whole match the Free kicks awarded against each team were; Swindon 18....earning 4 Yellow and one Red Card....... Stanley 9.......earning two Yellow Cards. 5) Apart from the Violent conduct sending Off I don't really think that there were any really Dirty Fouls of note. ie Swindon are not a 'Dirty' team but IMHO they are a very clever and sly team good at disrupting their opponents play!...ie CHEATS ! I do agree that life is very difficult for our referees of today which can be argued about all the day long but players cheating!!!!!!.......With these sly pushes, (as well as blatant pushes!) The pulling of shirts and the encirclement of a player by an opponents arms thereby restricting any movement towards the ball......players diving (simulation)..... the stupid new off side rules.....the permitting of a defending player to 'Shepherd' the ball out of play for a goal kick by blocking an opponents run towards the ball. This used to be called 'Obstruction' in my day.etc etc. Some referees seem to think that if they get through a match without booking a single player that they, (the referee), will have had a good match! In truth he could have missed most of the foul play and just let players get away with too much undesirable elements of the sport. IMHO a good referee will perhaps have booked one player, he will have endeavoured to allow free flowing football to be played, that is entertaining, and he will have kept control of the players behaviour. Finally the fans will very likely have hardly noticed that he was even on the pitch. |
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Ossykid - for you old boys crime was lower but crime is no worse now than 40 years ago when I grew up.
To hear some people you’d think it’s a jungle out there. Choirboy - not exactly sure what your point is. Swindon were more physical than us. The ref yielded his cards appropriately. I don’t recognise your allegations of cheating at all. Funny how many people think they are better at spotting fouls from 50 yards away than a trained, experienced ref right on top of things. |
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sometimes the hardest thing to spot are offences that are a few yards from you especially handball. jack taylor was never a greyhound about the pitch but he did not miss much and managed to sort players out. its not all about physical fitness but more a mental thing and being able to deal with players and have a feeling for the game. |
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[QUOTE=ossy kid;1208326]A refs job today is far more difficult than it was years ago. Yesteryear ?? players were told "If someone hurts you don't let him know, get up smile and get on with it". Today lots of, not all, players are soft cheats and encouraged by their useless managers. If I was still reffing today I think I would be tearing my hair out, I see some of them have done? at some of the antics these players get up to. I hate refs but I certainly sympathize with the job they have, also some of the directions given to them by the sweet F.A.
problem is ozzy the antics do not stop at pro level they go down to youth football. there are 17 laws of the game but are not written in stone. there is the words in the opinion of the referee. everyone has a different opinion and another day there would have been no penalty,s given on tuesday night. out of the laws when did anyone last see a goalkeeper penalised for holding the ball for more than 6 seconds and a defender shielding the ball out of play yards from the ball and not in playing distance of the ball. if the laws are there use em but imagine the shouts from the bench if they are given. |
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I usually give up waiting for that b****y circle of doom to stop turning. I thought it was because we live where internet is supplied down a long piece of string. But the same thing happened in the office, in a very well served location. And it happens on a tablet using 3G. As someone used to say, is it just me...? |
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Lord D........
My point is not that Swindon were more 'Physical' than Stanley it is that they persistently pushed, barged and leaned on our players throughout the match. Other posters have made points to support this view and also how this is difficult for the referee to always pick up. If you watch just the brief highlights shown on the video coverage posted above, observe the following considering two aerial duels; 1) In the first few seconds of the video, inside the Stanley penalty box, Hughes is barged into/pushed by a Swindon attacker, who is also leading with an elbow, and Hughes is knocked to the ground! .......a foul in my book! 2) For Kayden Jackson's goal there is an aerial 'physical' duel including a possible foul by the Swindon player but the referee saw fit to play on as he saw Stanley's numerical advantage going forward which resulted in Kayden's well taken goal. In this instance the referee did really well by applying the advantage rule. Both penalties awarded could be adjudged to have been somewhat soft and in my view both were accidental clips of an opponents heel when advancing into scoring positions. But YES, they are both definite penalties. Neither 'offender' was booked as the referee understood that the nature of the fouls were 'accidental' but that they were also stopping a scoring opportunity. Compare these two penalty awards with the single tackle that Clarke made on the halfway line that was obviously an accidental catch of his opponents heel too and yet he gets a Yellow card and for a 'foul' in a much less critical area of the pitch!.......A correct award of a free kick but a ridiculous Yellow card, in my view! So I repeat my main point about my 'diatribe' is that I am not really having a go at the referee but that I am being critical of Swindon's tactics of persistently pushing.........ie CHEATING! ON STANLEY ON ps Just another point. I thought that the choice of Swindon's away kit of pale green and shiny shirts made them difficult to see on a frosty night with a scattering of snow on the pitch......great tactics perhaps by Swindon?........ssshhhh........possible cheating????........ Naw not really! |
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Sometimes my daughter and I start counting the seconds when a keeper is holding the ball and we regularly count over 20 seconds! For me, 'Controlling' a football is a bit like 'Writing with a pen'. In order to write something you have to 'have the pen in your hand' and then move it across the paper. ie Control its movement! To control a football, I think that it is similar, in that you should have to make touches on the ball in order to move it ( ie control it!) The rule of allowing the referee to use his discretion in these 'Shepherding' situations is stupid...It is clearly obstructing an opponents desire to find a route towards the ball in order to play it! Make the rules to help the referee is my view, not to make the rules more difficult to apply. |
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New contributor, Choirboy has stolen my thunder, the highlights reminded me of what i thought on the night re the second goal in that our midfield in winning a header got clatttered but the ball then fell to us and Kayden was played in. The highlights show the ref running 20 yards with his arms outstretched indicating advantage.
There was also a late tackle by Nolon in the first 10 mins when we were under the cosh and the ref had a long chat without producing a card. That agression or brake in play helped us settle. All in all, whilst i agree their pen was soft, you could see how it was won and regrettably, how it was given. |
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The green and white Swindon kit was terrible to spot against the green and white pitch. Of that I agree.
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Swindon are appealing against Gordon's red card:
Keshi Anderson restored to Swindon Town squad for visit of Mansfield | Swindon Advertiser |
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what does it cost to appeal
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Don't know for sure, but is there not a risk that a failed appeal results in a lengthier ban?
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I am sure I have heard it is around £400, though I could be dreaming :)
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Lost his appeal ! 3 game ban stands.
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