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Lincoln's physical imps match thread
On the supporters coach to the game. Expecting the usual tough physical tight battle against this sort of outfit. Shame Seamus is not back for to give us his calming ball control ability in midfield. It would be a nice early Christmas present if he was suddenly back fit. even better present is 3 points today!
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As long as it's not a physical battle on the way out of the ground, last time I went was when some idiots decided to throw stones/bricks at our coach minutes after leaving the ground & broke a window - not at all pleasant & they'd won!!??
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Happy Christmas! Seamus is back
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Less injured the better.:)
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Is HAIRCUT in the team or the squad
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Pen to the Imps and red card to Accy
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Imps 1 Accy 0
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Mr Stockbridge strikes again!
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Terrible decision.
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Accy playing at lot of square passes which are being picked up by the Imps
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Exeter now winning - come on lads, step it up
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Oh ffs!! Off to write some Christmas cards :(
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2-0 now:(
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Imps 2 Accy 0. Big Matt Rhead with the Imps second goal.
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Crawley have had two sent off so, presumably, they'll be missing from their line-up next week.
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%*&!!!4^)*#!!!(**&^%%$4 . !
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Just seen the footage - no way was that a penalty or a sending off, the red card could get rescinded but a goal can't be taken back - terrible decision which must have changed the game, bet Coley's fuming!
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My view, not the best performance. The penalty was a surprise, some people seen a pull back. I didn't and thought it looked soft. Lincoln had been pushing and pulling are players all game. Lincoln played as you would expect physical. We didn't really deal it with it. Fair play to Lincoln they play there way, there fans create a great atmosphere and influenced the referree. The referree could have booked a couple of Lincoln players for late challenges, there second goal looked off side but from the away end you couldn't really tell. We passed well at times but created very little all game. Kayden Jackson is not in his early season form. As a fan I think Nolan's height would have fitted the game better than Scotty brown. Let's hope we can move forward and get back are 2 point average a game for the whole season.
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From a personal Imps perspective it sounded a good game (for us) but with a inconsistent ref.
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Just back ..no pen perhaps but Accy keeper made 4 good stops and although you are clearly the best footballing side in the division you will still be next season as the team appear to have no bottle....and I have never seen a team this low down the league throw themselves to the floor so theatrically ..number 7 (Ward?) even had a laugh with us over how easily he conned the (inept pile of crap) 'Ref' . McConartist did much the same ...Imps are tough and Bostwick/Woodyard broke up so much in central midfield.. your 2 shots on target were tricklers from long range and easily Vickers quietest game
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I've never been so angry over isolated incidents in a game in my life.
Seamus subjected to a late tackle that was bad enough to smash through the shin pad leaving him with a nasty gash which the referee says he didn't see but gives us a free kick. Seen it after the game - horrendous. As for the "penalty" ......... Then to wrap it up on the refs blind side and right under the linesman's nose Seamus takes a deliberate elbow straight in the mouth causing a nasty cut and despite being down to ten men he's told to leave the pitch for 3 minutes when we're down to 10 already. Need to forget this game asap. |
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Wait a minute no doubt you'll develop Wenger itis. |
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Our no. 7's name is not Ward, not even close so if you got that so wrong maybe you need your eyes testing as to the so-called theatrics you're accusing our players of? As for McConville, I presume that's who you mean, sounds like a touch of jealousy as I doubt any of your players are capable of scoring the calibre of goal he did against you in the tin pot trophy game. If you listen to our managers post match interview, he's not whining he's bloody fuming - but yeah, maybe we should've learnt from the cup game & brought riot shields onto the pitch to deal with the nethanderal aspect of your game. |
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Suggest you disappear up your own arse and get on your own site where you can all play together.
Next you'll be telling me Rhead is better than Messi. I don't need anyone else to interpret a game I'm good at it myself thanks. I never once said we deserved to win never once whinged over the result. You seem to miss that. We lost the individual battles which means we lost the war but that doesn't excuse the referee from getting it full pelt from me. |
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You show more cahones than your cheating little divers at least but if you do not like opposing fans on your board then make it private ..Clark not Ward ...i guess that means he does not dive ...sure you will find that all your next games will follow a similar pattern ..one trick ponies found out ...tippy-tappy-divey ..Good night and thanks for one of the easiest 3 points we have had this season ...
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Balanced ? Give your head shake.
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Well my friend, you've still got to play us at our place yet. Do us all a favour & introduce yourself before the game - if you've got the balls! :hidewall: |
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Hey 617ontheirgame, are you Sommerset?:eek:
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The drop of the left shoulder looked too deliberate from Rawson and the ref saw it as a foul so he had to go as there can't be any genuine attempt to play the ball in those circumstances.
Rawson may have slipped, but on the balance of probabilities it looked like push or attempted push. The thing is you can get away with all sorts of subtle fouls but the wasn't one of them, and it cost the game. Still should stay up though, and it is an achievement to never be relegated for the football league for a club Stanley's size. |
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Still should stay up though, and it is an achievement to never be relegated for the football league for a club Stanley's size.[/QUOTE]
unlike one of the division 2 giants. they have managed it twice. |
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You admit we're probably the best footballing side in this league - well, guess what - that's what it should be about, the hint is in the name of the game :rolleyes: Lastly, so you liked the look of our right back but think he should move to a club 'with a stadium & fans' - got news for you buddy, the size of a stadium & the amount of fans doesn't always guarantee success as you doubtless found out in the 6 or so years it took you to climb out of the Conference. So you've spat your dummy out & had your whinge now go & get your books ready for school tomorrow, there's a good lad |
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weehee ...pretty football (Arsenal) no guarantee of success in the same way as fanbase/stadium (Sunderland) ...one thing guaranteed is that football in this country will not tolerate diving cheats for long ..or classless whining scouse gits blaming everybody and everything
We have dropped through the trapdoor 5 times in all (twice in recent memory) but bouncebackability must be in our DNA and last season was a blast ...you clearly punch above your weight and fair play for playing passing football on the odd moments when vertical - on yesterdays evidence neither of us will get automatic promotion but we are likely to bring in 3-4 quality players in 2 weeks (Danny Rowe from Ipswich already done deal) - presume you are after Tom Daley ? |
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I have to say from where I was sitting it didn't look like a penalty, intially watching the highlights I was less than convinced. But, watching it again taking into @Chewbacca's point of view if the ref saw that yes it was the right decision. Either way I'll take it, losing big Matt Rhead in the penalty area was a bit of a schoolboy error in my opinion, its not as though he is hard to miss?
Unlike some of my fellow Imp comrades posting on here I'm full of admiration for Accy Stanley and what they do and stand for. |
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As there is little of interest in his vitriolic meanderings, and nothing whatsoever to commend the motivation behind them, is it not just another of those occasions to feel totally sorry for another seriously struggling fellow-man at this season of goodwill ?. To 617..... May you feel the glow of Christmas spirit which will warm your heart over the coming year !. |
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Whilst I thought the penalty/sending off did look ludicrously harsh (I've looked at it lots of times and don't actually see a shirt pull, and if there was one I don't think it prevented their forward getting to the ball first) I do wish Coley wouldn't complain so much in his interviews.
I know he will be deeply frustrated but this list of 18 terrible decisions either exists only in his head or overlooks that we have no doubt had as many dodgy decisions in our favour to equal things out. Yesterday's decision effectively meant we lost the game (though it sounds like we were second best before that) but can't recall any other dubious decisions of that magnitude this season i.e. Ones which were real game changers? He does seem to turn his attention to referees when we are having a bad run too. Is that wise? In reply to the Lincoln fan on here. I happen to agree with you that a few of our players do go down too easily. I hope that supporting opinion helps with the current period of minor mental disturbance/attention seeking crisis you are facing? Good luck with the rest of your season and the huge loan buys you are making and hope you can now move on? |
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Lord Dids ..I am now cured :-)
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I have mentioned before that we do seem to struggle against physical hoofball types of teams Coley and Jimmy must see this and hopefully will address it on the training pitch and maybe in the January window bringing in a tough midfielder also a bit worried about goals seem to be drying up a bit lets roll Crawley over next week and have a good Xmas oh and adios to that twit from Lincoln.
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We can argue till the cows come home about which midfielder is better than another, or which formation is superior, but the real reason for our recent slide is obvious.
WE'RE NOT SCORING GOALS! The reason Luton are top of the league is very simple - they score more goals than anyone else. Goals win games & unless we rediscover our early season form in front of goal, I fear our slide will continue. |
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Think you are right there Lord Stiff. When we started with Wilks, Kee, Jackson we seemed to look back to being a threat..... I'm also thinking we should get Nolan back in midfield to provide a bit more support to the front players.
We don't need loads of goals like Luton (and won't get them no matter who plays) but a goal per game more and we'd be promoted. |
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four important games up next. end of the loan period for some players. lot of work for coley to do or decide over the next month or so. still think we should be o.k. by the end of the season if he gets things right.
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I have, on more than one occasion quoted the great Sir Bobby Robson on this very matter. He had a paradigm regarding 'Goals and the scoring of them ... it was simply this :- SCORE GOALS REGULARLY AND CONSISTENTLY = PROMOTION. FAIL TO SCORE GOALS = MID TABLE MEDIOCRITY AT THE BEST, RELEGATION MORE THAN LIKELY !. When GOALS ' dry-up ' where the Reds are concerned, this has in the past lasted for more than a few games unfortunately, and has been the subject of many posts on our Forum. One can only hope that over the Christmas and New Year games that this trend doesn't rear it's ugly head once more !. So a Christmas wish for our team is that they will see the ball nestling in their opponent's net over and over again !. ps. What about that absolute Cad purporting to be a Lincoln City fan... is he a blot on the landscape or what ?. |
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Jackson is a worry for me. Too much finger pointing at others and throwing his arms around yesterday and his work rate was mediocre.
Wilks did nothing when he came on other than to nearly hit the corner flag when he got a sight at goal. Edwards can't even get on the bench. Billy is Billy - what you see is what you get. Another centre forward on loan please by creating a space or even a permanent signing. |
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Have to agree Wilks to me should be allowed back if his loans ended, Jackson for some reason is a different player to the early season one we had, whatevers different needs sorting pdq imho
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We've played 10 league & cup games since Jackson last scored.
That's 15 hours of football without a goal. Way back on the 28th October, he scored the final goal in our 4-1 thrashing of Barnet. In the same period Wilkes has scored twice - although mainly in the role of a substitute. |
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Is Jackson 100% fit or is he still carrying an injury, or is Jackson just being Jackson, and that's why he's at Accy
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I have been a little underwhelmed by some of our strikers performances. The midfield was average for some time now. I too noticed Edwards can't even get on the bench for whatever reason. If he is just short of match practice then he needs to be put on for a run of games. He was a decent striker and I don't believe he suddenly became bad. Jackson came and scored for fun but that has stopped. Wilks in my mind is too easily pushed off the ball and is not much of a threat as he should be. Coley needs to sort the team out. I know Exeter and Lincoln are not the easiest places to go but from what I have seen they are not a patch on us at our best. Why do we let teams drag us down? whatever the management team have to get the team winning again and quick. As some of the loan players are due to be returned to their club I would be annoyed if I was a good player who only kept the bench warm. We should have a rotation system to keep players sharp, I know coley does not want to change a winning team. but we are not winning and some of the bench players are getting rusty as they are not playing enough first team football. Lets see what the new year brings.
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Perhaps it's no coincidence that our goal-drought has coincided with the loss of some of most creative players due to injury.
Sousa, McCleod & Clark, all skilful wingers capable of getting behind defences & putting balls into the box, have all been absent recently. I must agree with Lord D about Nolan. Earlier this season he was consistently our most creative & quick thinking midfielder. Why the sudden fall from grace? The last time Edwards played (against Wigan) he scored, along with Sousa (2) & McCleod (1). With Jackson misfiring, surely it's time to give the lad another chance. Let's hope Sousa & McCleod recover quickly, so we can get back to the simple, effective wing-play that proved so successful against the better teams we played in the pre-season friendlies. |
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Did a blog of Saturday's game, and yes I'm an Imp. We did knock you about but were well on top before the penalty with a goal-line clearance and good keeping.
https://stickypalms.blogspot.co.uk/2...n-stanley.html Good luck for the rest of the season Sticky |
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Rawson's red card has been appealed?
Anyone care to guess the outcome? Having seen it on my telly rather than my phone I think there is a small tug of the shirt, but in no way would that have prevented their forward getting to the ball before Chappers. Does that put him in the clear? should it actually matter whether Chappers got their first? Presumably at the time of the incident the outcome might have been unknown. Should Rawson be judged on what he did and what he knew at the time or what happened in the end? M'lud. |
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Nice for Rawson and team if the red card gets rescinded but I think if Richards Everton is fit he is a better centre back than Rawson.
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Presumably Everton didn't play on Saturday due to Coley's rotation policy?
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No Sir; Some things we keep "in house" I know some on here don't like this policy, but you can't please everybody!!:rolleyes: |
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Think Everton play tonight Lord D, v Swansea if I'm not mistaken . . . . . . oh, wait a minute - not that Everton? :D
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Unbelievably Wilks getting touted for a move to Everton or West Bromwich this side of the Pennines.
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So I awake this morning to find that there is no rotation policy and that Wilks is highly regarded?
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The red card as been rescinded .Very good but too late lost a man and a penalty which proved to lose us the game
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In my mind now , if we should not have had a red card then Matt Green should have one for diving which led to the penalty......cheating.
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What you call rough justice! Shame that goals 'won' in this way can't be docked from the opposition's total - never gonna happen, anymore than the ref having his hands slapped for it
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To me when is summat as blatant as that was, the ref should be suspended, can't be done if the ref was miles away from the incident but that clown wasn't.
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Good that sense has been seen in this case BUT Same old, same old reaction from fans. Kicking out at the ref.
we should accept they are human and make occasional mistakes, but that it evens itself over the season OR we need to campaign to stop play and rely on a fourth official with a TV feed. There's no other way. Officials are generally improving, but they will always make mistakes. What's the point of suspending one of them when they make a howler? We should be taking the pressure off them, not adding to it. that's in my humble opinion of course. |
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Maybe a suspension for one mistake would be a tad of an overreaction but if it's a regular occurrence then, yes something should be done by the powers that be.
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Well my opinion is officials are far from improving. the reason for this have no idea, but with a fourth official these days it dont add up to me.
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Officials are generally improving, but they will always make mistakes. What's the point of suspending one of them when they make a howler? We should be taking the pressure off them, not adding to it.
that's in my humble opinion of course.[/QUOTE] there are actually 3 of em out there plus a fourth official. agree they are only human and mistakes happen but too many are being made. think some have forgotten the days when they were on their own on a local parks pitch with no one even helping em give ball out of play. a lot live in their own little bubble and the only topic of conversation especially with the young up and coming ones is referee related. |
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For as long as I can remember fans (and players) have said referees are getting worse. If this supposed steady decline were true the standard now be shockingly poor compared to decades ago.
In fact, any research done (that i can find) points to the opposite. Linesmen in particular are surely light years better then they used to be. No longer do they have to just look at who's closest to the goalie when the ball was kicked, they also need to cater for players who might be offside and who don't touch the ball. I'm completely amazed how good they are when you see slo-mo replays on the telly box. refs now have to apply more subtle judgement in a game that's faster, with players more skilled at diving. It used to be "did that tackle break his leg", now it's "was the angle of his foot slightly raised when he brushed his ankle"? They have to do this, with every game televised. Every week I used to groan if Elleray or Rennie or others of that ilk used to be in charge - and they were supposedly the top refs. Now, there's rarely a ref comes to Stanley that has a shocker. Sure, I see loads of incidents I don't agree with, but no doubt 50% of those are ones where actually I'm wrong (since I'm 70 yards away whilst he is 5), but it's very, very rare to come away feeling cheated by the officials or that the ref as been ridiculously fussy or has lost all discipline. People often mistakenly think the country has gone to the dogs, that there's more crime now, that this is worse, and that is worse. Generally the reality is that things are a lot better than we think. I humbly submit that refs and liners are a hell of a lot better than is generally perceived and we are, in fact, living through a golden age of brilliant officiating. |
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yer must be on drugs LordD?
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Think you must be watching different games than I am at Stanley Lord D . . . . . .
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Lord Didders, you present a convincing case for the defence. Much of what you say about refs is well-argued. I cannot deny what you say, so I'll just sit down and reflect on your wise words and have a cup of tea. Now where's that kettle....! Did I say KETTLE?....Kettle!!!!
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The voice of reason from Lord D on the referee debate.
Refs are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Funny how one set of fans see a red card foul, while opponents see a dive. Our friend from Lincoln accused Stanley of being a team of divers, conveniently ignoring their foul tally was double ours. We often feel aggrieved, sometimes justifiably, that officials decisions have cost us the match. In general, most officials try to do a difficult job in an honest & fair way. Naturally it's the exception that always proves the rule - for exception read 'Kettle'. It's ironic that the team topping our league - Luton, also top the (un)fair-play league, with 62 points from 50 yellows & 4 red cards. The team with fewest cards are Barnet, with only 29 points (20Y + 3R). So the dirtiest team in league 2 are top of the league, whilst the cleanest are propping up the bottom. Wonder if the Luton fans are complaining about officials????? |
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lord S you must be related to keith hackett or someone of the same ilk. we regularly discuss incidents that happen in games at real time at our monthly referees meetings. we all agree that they are physically fitter than the guys from years ago but they do not do those who are lower down the food chain any favours whatsoever apart from saying to players that 3 of em cannot get it right on a saturday so what do you expect me on my own to do.
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Don't quite understand the reasoning behind your 'lower down the food chain' argument? Are you saying that all lower league officials are incompetent? All I'm trying to say is that, whether just or unjust, a fans view of any decision given by a ref is always coloured by their own narrow loyalties. If they foul us, they're a team of dirty thugs. If we foul them, they cheating b*****d dived! |
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Don't quite understand the reasoning behind your 'lower down the food chain' argument? Are you saying that [B]all[/B] lower league officials are incompetent? just trying to say that those of us involved in grass roots football are constantly being abused for giving correct decisions that are in the laws of the game that are totally ignored by those at premier league and football league level. not all officials are incompetant in the football league but quite a few carry a bit of history with em. have a read of the laws of the game online or in paper form. a better knowledge of em might help when having a go at officials at the wham or anywhere else. |
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