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I wonder if there are any plans to look at the metal steps leading from the ground to the Crown car park. After the match on Saturday it was quite a bottleneck in that area, with what looked like a couple of hundred people or more all trying to climb the steps. We even had one pillock coming down them which added to the problem. On health and safety grounds, are these steps able to bear the weight of all these people at once and because of their slippery surface, if anyone did slip and fall this could perhaps cause an avalanche of bodies. It could be a matter of ownership. Would it not be a good idea to open up a gate at the far end of the Clayton end car park to relieve some of the pressure from the steps bottleneck?

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Those steps are too narrow, same every match but even worse when a bigger gate, the solution would be to double the width of them, there is room enough to do it, if the "Will" is there. imho.

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What was the deal with the food van on the Crown car park?

I suspect it was nothing to do with the club and the club will no doubt lose takings to it.

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Will is there He's behind the bar in the crown

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You don't happen to be the guy walking DOWN the steps after Saturdays game do you?

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Wasn't him eric.

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The "ownership" of the Crown steps is a "grey area"; I suspect they belong to the pub.

In the 70's the pub closed the way of entry to the ground. The access again was closed when the pub was being refurbished last year.

The burger van on the Crown car park was definately organised by the Crown.

We did look at opening the gates onto Haworth Street but again poor parking made this impossible. This hopefully we can resolve for the next home games.

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That would certainly improve things.lets hope its done.:)

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Fully agree KTF! Exile & I said exactly the same as we waited patiently to exit the Clayton End on Saturday.
Success has brought it's own problems - long queues for toilets & kiosks is one thing, but this is an accident waiting to happen.
Thankfully, everyone kept calm, but anyone of a nervous disposition or suffering from claustrophobia could have been panic-stricken in the crush.
With home areas reaching capacity, I think it's time the club gave this problem urgent attention before any serious incident occurs.

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I agree entirely your Lordship, it's an accident waiting to happen.

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In addition to an exit via the Clayton End car park, the best option would be a low-incline concrete ramp running sideways from a landing at the Crown pub level down toward the entrance to the club bar.
Would also allow for easier wheelchair access.
Surely there are grants available for improving disabled access?

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Don't panic all this will sort itself out once we are promoted.

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I 'm sure there are grants for such facilities;

However we need all the grants we have available to assist in the new Whinney Hill stand.

I would also suspect a ramp with a gentle slope for wheel chairs from the Crown car park would end up being that long it would end up in the Clayton End goalmouth and block access to the new Clayton End car park!!

ASFC want to use Haworth St more BUT we need to keep everybody on side and there are other things being planned.

As Coley says KTF

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So then is nothing being resolved for the next home game then?

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Be patient !!

If the "plan" gets out the "NIMBY's" will be giving the girls grief from 9am tomorrow.

Social media is Ok; but "burgergate" has caused hours of work over a "happy tweet"!

I'd rather pick up crap, clean the ground, help the girls sell tickets than have a local resident give us 30 mins grief in reception.

We've had a complaint from somebody on First Avenue, "that it was rather busy on Saturday"!!:rolleyes: Can "we" sort it!!!
Yes Sir; buy an ticket and "join in"!!

All; please take this as all light hearted fun !!:)

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Why do you think that? Do you know something we don't???

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We've had a complaint from somebody on First Avenue, "that it was rather busy on Saturday"!! Can "we" sort it!!!

You couldn't make it up could you? These people are allowed to breed!

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After the final whistle on Saturday it was obvious that the steps were going to be crowded so a couple of us just hung back and lent on one of the rails in the Clayton end after perhaps 5 minutes the crowd from the steps reached back to the Clayton End gate and a steward came and said come on lads "You've got to clear the terraces" when I asked "How do we do that when the gateway was still packed?" he shrugged his shoulders and said "Just clear the terrace - now" So the problem does need sorting.

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Based on that :o, it's the stewarding that needs sorting!

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Sorry Mr T, but you obviously misunderstood my earlier suggestion on a ramp.
I suggested the ramp run sideways from the crown car park, i.e. - it would turn 90 degrees right from the top landing & descend toward the rear entrance to the club bar, along the back edge of the existing boundary.
A ramp in that position would hardly affect the lower concourse, as it's never used for parking on match days.

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Lord S;

Take your point but that type of ramp would border on the walls of the houses on Whalley Road. We've already had "issues" when Andy bought the land outside main reception and demolished the garages. Can't see them agreeing to such a plan.

The car park outside the club house is used every game//day by those in the Sports bar.
Whilst the marquee has solved loads of issues with regards to the Sportsbar, it has meant those that car there on match days being moved elsewhere.

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Will be sorted when the part time supporters go back to taking there wives shopping or cleaning the car.

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Never had this problem with old steps bring them back lol

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Remember when the steps down from The Crown were only about 3 feet wide in our Non League days? The queue at big matches during our promotion pushes then were a problem. Sometimes we had 2,500 + on the ground!
Regarding the issues now with the steel steps, which are slippy when wet. They could be painted with a textured paint which would improve the grip.
A ramp, which I think would be a good idea, has to be of a certain maximum incline and width and would need to have a slope adjacent and parallel to the wall and then a return fall with rails around them. This could also alleviate some of the numbers on the steps.
Using the new gates at the other end of the Clayton End car park would be great too but I understand that this is part of a wider plan to use the building near that corner which has been tidied up and made ready for fitting out for use by the club.
I fully agree with Mr T that we need to be patient as I am certain that Andy Holt and the club have all of these improvement issues in hand along with the Whinney Hill stand development.
Trust in Andy.....he knows what he is doing!:)

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Patient? who needs to be? we left by the clayton end car park last night, was far easier, WEll DONE the club opening the gates.:):):):):):)

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Am I allowed to take some credit here Cashy??:):):)

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If they put your brains in a budgie it'd fly backwards!

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Don't be telling everybody !!

The NIMBY's will be onto HBC and the Highways Department.

Good job the idiot whole blocked the gates with his car; remembered to leave his keys with a steward;)

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Message understood.;)

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Might have to try this " test" for the Lincoln game!!

Please don't tell too many Clayton Enders !!;)

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A nod is as good as a wink, say no more squire!

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I do hope that the person who may have 'lost' his keys wasn't somebody who had been out celebrating and woke up in full Stanley Kit the morning after! Heh heh!:theband::thepint: