Who can cut it in Div 1?
 

Which players will be good enough next year?

Johnson, The Don, Coneely, Seany, Dunne, Clark, Jackson should step up easily enough I’d have thought.

Richards Everton and Harvey if he regains his form should also do the business.

Not sure about Super Bill or Chappers.

Hughes, Nolan and Brown may struggle.

Who will be sold for decent money? Jackson?

Will Coleman work his usual magic with signings and loans? I would think new signings at a higher level will be harder, but he might still get some very good loanees.(I think we’ve a good chance of keeping Dunne for another few months).

Will anyone come in for Coleman with an offer he can’t refuse? That, obviously, is the doomsday scenario. I hope Andy Holt is paying him well and that he’s become too typecast at Stanley.

Reckon overall we should be able to make mid table.

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don't know what makes you think Haircut will good enough for L1.

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'Haircut'??
you talkin' 'bout Coley after his transplant??

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Can't believe you are not sure of Chappers & Super Billy??

IMHO, probably our two best players this season, and, as such, will thrive next season!!

Agree, though, mid table realistic (whatever squad JC can assemble, presuming he resists the lure of Arsenal!)

Other than these, I tend to agree with your opinions.

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You do know there's a game on Saturday and a point to be won?

Doesn't feel right talking about who won't cut it right know.

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What makes you think he won’t be ?
I think he’s had a great season.
Another one of the unsung group.

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Yeah, but, whatever, we are still in Div 1 next season, whether as champs or second, so this post is still relevant! Opinions welcome!:):)

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Sorry, Endeavor, just re-read your post.....
Are you thinking that any of our comments may be seen as negative by some squad members, & thereby affect their performances over last two games??

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i think Stanley will cut it, thats all it needs simple as.

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this post for me would be more revellant after we play swindon. some will go others will stay. i,m sure coley will bring in players we have never heard of and do a good job. plus we are a division higher so better loanees will come in.

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Just been up to the ground this morning for a ticket for my Grandson.
Had a quick look through the gate at the pitch..........
There isn't much grass left for Buzza to cut!:conny:
ps Seven year old Grandson has a Season ticket ordered for next year!:theband:

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I must say I agree

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To me at this point in the season its the most "Thoughtless" post i ever seen on here.!

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The lads who have got us where we are will be fine in div 1 if they continue to believe in John and Jimmie and themselves. It,s team spirit that makes a successful team not individuals. Give me eleven players giving 100% and you can keep the "stars". I'm sure J&J will add players to strengthen the squad if the think it's needed.

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Excuse me, but this thread is who WILL cut it. Therefore it is positive by definition.

Cashy, why thoughtless? I’d have said it’s quite thoughtful. Certainly as thoughtful as “wot we gonna do about them steps at the Clayton End”.

Thoughtless is surely posts slagging off Coley and Seany when things are not going so well. Not that you’d ever do that.

Anyway, to elaborate a little on my uncertainty on Chappers and Billy.

Firstly, Chappers is unlikely to have as quiet a time as he has this season. He’s going to have to boss his area more and I’m not sure he’s great at that.

Super Bill - my uncertainty is merely that a better class of centre half MIGHT take him out of the game. I am more certain about Jackson and Clark, for example, because pace is a commodity that will cause problems at all levels.

Anyway, apologies for my musings. Clearly I thought a social media platform succeeds by welcoming all manner of views and debate. I now realise it would be better if we just kept our utterings to guessing the gate and moaning about the size of the print on the main screen.

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Thoughtless because we have a damn good chance of becoming champions, surely even a brooke bond monkey can grasp that?

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Historically Coley has ALWAYS stuck with the team that won promotion, minus any losses we might suffer

Whether he thinks Harvey Rogers or Big Ben two-names is an adequate replacement for Jimmy Dunne I dont know, but he'll offer contracts to all of the core players

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Hallelujah to that. Some people no matter what their opinions on here will be viewed negatively.

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All of the core players are already under contract next season.

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Hopefully being a hooray league 1 side Jimmy will want to come back and please Burnley let him season long loan please.

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IMHO, a team that wins promotion is good enough to stay up the following season in the League above.:mosher:
Common sense though would lead to further strengthening of the squad to ensure survival.
Just let Coley and Jimmy decide who will "CUT IT". They are the 'Masters' in charge....They have more experience at managing at this level of football THAN ANYONE!:jimbo:
I don't know what management experience or coaching qualifications you have Lord D, .....to doubt that ANY of our current players will not be able to 'Cut it' next season.:cool:
They are all brilliant in my book and to doubt any of them at this stage is just simply negative!.......
CHOIRBOY and 99.9 % of Stanley supporters are 100% behind ALL of our players!:theband:
ON STANLEY ON:wave8::signbeer:
UP INTO LEAGUE ONE....:mosher:
Just ONE little point is needed from our two remaining fixtures and we will go up as CHAMPIONS of a Football League Division for the first time in our 130 year history!
HAVE NO DOUBTS ........Lord D:gooddog:
THIS IS STANLEY'S GREATEST EVER MOMENT!:theband::jimbo::jimbo:
CELEBRATE IT!:s_gupjump:s_gupjump:music8:

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I hope that JC will be loyal to the players who have won promotion, and give them the chance to show they can "cut it" in League 1. Similarly, I hope (probably more naively :rolleyes:) that the players who have stood out and gained national attention will stay loyal to the club that has given them the chance to shine.

That said, I'm sure the guys who have spent a league 2 season mainly on the bench will be looking to move to somewhere they can get a regular game ('cos if they didn't this year they're obviously not likely to next, unless they are seen to be developing rapidly), and realistically our younger "stars" would be daft not to accept offers of substantially more money if they do come in. But I do hope our "senior pros" (and come to that JC and JB :eek:) will be happy to stay where they are and try to keep us at this next, challenging, level.

But then I'm soft, really .... :)

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I don’t believe I have ever laughed so much as I did at Revived Red’s comment:

“A social media platform such as this succeeds by promoting that sense of unity, not trying to destroy it.”

So, to recap. We have a thread on here that is 8,000 pages long dedicated to slagging Sean Mc, we have had endless, absolutely endless, slagging of:
The big screen, The Clayton end steps, Coleman not rotating his players, minor problems Buying tickets, Petty arguments with Dav and Twenty Eight (that I don’t understand), referee slating.

Oh yeah, and we get a Lincoln fan giving us some good wishes only to be shot down in flames.

Meanwhile I express some views that we will be generally good enough to make mid table and some little tit bit that I have doubts about Chappy is picked on.

I think it’s been pretty clear who the most confident poster on here has been. Yup, the bloke who said ages ago that promotion was already won when you miserable bugg@rs were obviously contemplating some impossible collapse in form. A huge vote of confidence to the players and management that is.

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Also Lord D, omits to say on the sean mac thread, whist there has been much criticism, there are also posts by people who did criticize, saying how much he has improved and become a valuable member of our squad, still i expect nowt else from his Lordship.:rolleyes:

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Feel I must defend Milord on this occasion.
The question posed seems a legitimate one, although perhaps posted prematurely.
I don't always agree with Lord D, but he is entitled to his opinion regarding the ability or otherwise of squad players.
As for this post having a detrimental effect on the confidence of a particular player - Hee Haawww!
This post has had 27 views. Anyone who thinks the management & players bother to read any of it is deluded.
I know this for a fact, as all my incisive recommendations on team selection, substitutions & team tactics throughout the season have been completely ignored by Professor Coleman - Thank God!

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To lighten the mood yesterday I was slagged off by two Accy fans ( a married couple I believe )for jumping from my seat when we scored and when we won the penalty.
When I explained we weren’t at the cinema they had a word with a Stward about my behaviour.
You couldn’t make it up ........

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I’ve accepted it’s because I’m a Yorkshireman Lord D - prejudice above and beyond hahaha - but come on lads all’s well that ends well. A few months to enjoy before League One worries concerns etc become realities.

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So presumably it was premature to slag off difficulties in buying season tickets until that all important Monday deadline!

Plenty of very fair speculation in the press about whether Mo Farah would be able to cut it in the marathon before last Sunday. Farah, himself, has those doubts but because he’s not some lily livered snowflake is prepared to give it a go.

I would be amazed if any of the players don’t have similar doubts about next season, and amazed if they aren’t also relishing finding out.

In any event, I’m sure all concerned would have realised that how they will do next year has no bearing on how they would do this year against a second division team. But as Lord Stiff points out - as if they read this.

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As we'll be at Swindon this Saturday here's a wild, crazy hope that Professor Coleman makes some big changes and lets as many of the squad, who haven't had many minutes on the pitch, get a game.
The favoured XI have been brilliant but I'd be really interested to see the likes of Sousa, Nolan, Rodgers, Maxted, Williams, Ogle, Big Ben all get a run out.
I still remember the damp squib that was the last Conference game at Kidderminster (mainly for the food, not the game) and giving these lads a go might be one way of rewarding them for constantly being on stand-by.

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Fully agree Exile. Ive no doubt that Coley will field a first 11 as he thinks he should be as competitive as possible, but I honestly think the second 11, on this occasion, will be more competitive.

Big Bill HAS to play though to try to ensure he gets the golden boot

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It’s a nice dilemma for me.
I have a ticket ...... but being selfish unless Seamus and Jordan play I won’t travel. It’s a long haul and added to travels to Wycombe and Newport I’m ready for a rest.
That said if Coley gives the squad members a run I for one won’t moan .... but Clicker will he wants double figures for the season !

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Just asking out of curiosity really, but why?

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South Yorkshire mafia. Let’s just say we’re close.

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It will be interesting to see who stays for next season, I was disappointed that Coley didn't play the fringe players at Swindon. Who wants to go t a club just to keep thbench warm.

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On the evidence of Premier League clubs, a lot.:rolleyes:

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Aye but they get good money.;) thats gotta have some bearing on it.?

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At that level it's got everything to do with it, Cashy.

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Congratulations to Aaron Chapman on winning the Sky Sports 'Golden Glove' award for league 2
His 19 clean sheets helped us win promotion.
One of our team who can definitely cut-it in league 1.

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It was a fine achievement by Chappers. He was a good shot stopper but I can’t recall him giving any goals away from howlers. Since we won so many games by a single goal that equated to a lot of points.

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Recall not so good these days LD. Don't worry come's to most of us.

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Perfect recall. I have doubts whether he will fare so well when he needs to be more commanding in his box next year.
I also recall him being dropped last year - and for good reason.

Please note that I have “doubts” not certainties.

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Let's hope he signs on then, currently out of contract!:eek:

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just think aaron chapman is a better goalkeeper than he looks.

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Have to agree Chappers fer me is a Must.:)

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I see O Sullivan has been released by Carlisle.

I bet with the right management he'd cut it in league One.

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We know Coley has a favouring towards ex players, who know the club and what is expected here.

O'Sullivan released, can we afford him now?
Tom Aldred, under contract at Bury but out of favour and played 15 games on loan at Motherwell
Shay McCarten, only 15 games for Bradford and the manager quit this morning
Matty Pearson, only 8 games for Barnsley last season ...
Jimmy ryan, only 10 games for Blackpool
Bobby Grant tends to be used as a sub at Fleetwood

Depends on who we lose I suppose, but I wouldnt be surprised to see one of these return.

Ryan Scicluna (malta international midfielder) was on trial last summer but returned to Turkey as he developed a knee injury. Looked good and said that he hoped to return again this summer

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Jimmy Ryans played 36 games and got 3 goals last season .
Watched him against Wigan and Blackpool won 2-0, he was the best player on the park !!!
Been told hes not on massive money either,interesting one that !

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I think you’ll find that the gem you already have called Jordan Clark is a far better player.
If he can’t cut it at Carlisle why would you think he’d be any good with you in League One ?
I was always mystified when he started ahead of Clark.

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I really don’t understand this craving for ex players.
There’s better about - just got to get out there and seek them.

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Ref Jimmy Ryan, i used Wiki for a quick reference, hadnt been updated for sometime apparently!

From a fan perspective most have no issue with ex players coming back. In most cases they were our best players at the time and rightly moved on to progress. If it doesnt work out for them for whatever reason (billy, hughesy, sean) then the door is open.

From Coleys point of view, he knows what he's getting with an ex player and knows that he doesnt need to spend months beating them til they understand whats required here. Id argue theres a better player in every position in league 2 than what we have, but talent isnt the only requisite here. Character and determination and belief can carry teams to a title, as proved by Coley numerous times

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Oh yeah, and Mingoia has left Cambridge ...

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Agree that Clark is better than o’sullivan.

Coley seems to do very well finding new players as far as I can see with my relatively brief time as a fan. Beckles, Jackson, Big Ben, the Don, Johnson, Harvey in the last couple of years combined with very good loanees etc

Nowt wrong with getting old players back you can trust.

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No doubt at all in my mind Clark to me is far better.

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Would love to get piero back, one of our better players in the last few years

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he certainly didn,t cut it with our management last time he was here. just confine him to our history.

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dean winnard given a free my morecambe. not for us but i hope he gets fixed up with someone decent next season.

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By O Sullivan I did mean the version we had first time- if he could get back to that form he'd be a real asset.

Saying that he would have a job shifting Jordan Clarke but could provide options both wide and centrally.

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Theres no guarantee that Clarke will be with us next season, as a young man with a medal round his neck, and one of our better players, I've no doubt he'll be courted elsewhere.

Players like Billy and Sean MAY be happy where they are and less interested in bench warming elsewhere à la Pearson and McCartan

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its all about money anyway. the players mentioned are all under contract and so we would get a good fee for em and being a bench warmer on more money might be an attraction. best job in football is the understudy keeper at a premier league club. loads of dosh without game time. if their regular gets injured they,d sign another as well if its in the window.

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O’Sullivan is a class act when he decides to turn up !!!
You can argue hes had some bad injures,but IMO,its the bit between his ears thats stopped him progressing,hes got the lot in his locker.

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He's under contract for another year with an option for another year after that. He wont be going anywhere unless the club wants / allows him to leave.

He also has a league two runner up medal.

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It will be interesting to see who is at the club for next season. The comings and goings will throw up a lot of speculation before the final team is shaped up. Up to signing the keeper from Guiseley Chappers was a poor keeper. He then suddenly realised he had to up his game and proved to be a good keeper like he was when he first came on loan before he got injured. Bill is a goal poacher but has not got the legs these days, I doubt if he would be able to cut in League 1. Jackson would and the sub Zatlan. Ben would be an ideal defender for that division. Will Jimmy Dunne still be available to us. I don't know but if not I wish him well. if he stays it would be a master stroke on coley's behalf. If Burnley decide he can go there will be a scramble for him. Would Mark Hughes cut it in league 1. Possibly but has he got the speed left in his legs? There are others who are questionable or would stay. This thread will run for a good while. It will be another part of the equation when we know who else is available. All opinions are as valid as each others for discussion sake. Ultimately Coley's decision will be the final one.

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its difficult to really say who will come off in div.1 and who will not. could be in for a surprise as some who did well last season may struggle and others may adapt better who were not regulars. how many of our squad who we have kept have played div.1 football i wonder. any help out there.

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I don't class Billy as just a goal poacher though he can finish. He's probably our best footballer and his hold up/link play can be fantastic. The only limit to Billy will come from himself and how much re really wants to play at a higher level given his issues. I would certainly love to see him leading the line next season.

Re Chapman. I put his rejuvenation down to being dropped for the Morecombe away game.

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Billys hold up play and Link up, is as inspector morse said second to none in my view, speed has never been his asset, but common sense has, i think he will be fine in league 1,

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John Sheridan was the best player I ever saw outside the top flight. He was the reason I started going watching footy again in the mid 80s. Head and shoulders above everyone else, a joy to watch with his vision and skill.... yet was very ordinary in the top division (despite what wikipedia might say!). Other players such as Batty and Strachan performed just as well in both divisions.

I don't think it's just down to speed/fitness, but it's one of the major factors. Akinfenwa, i suspect, might be a handful and score at any level (outside the premier league) even though he's a slow coach.

I reckon we may be a bit too slow/lightweight through the spine of the team..... would love to see that bolstering.

If anyone can, Coley can.

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Was Sheridan not playmaker for the cracking Sheff Wed team of the early 90's? 9(Hirst, Waddle , Carlton Palmer ahemetc) He always looked sheer class when I saw him on tv for both Wednesday and ROI.

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Indeed he was so I’m baffled by Lord D’s “ordinary” comment.
I’m sure Manchester United didn’t think he was ordinary in 1991 when he scored the winner at Wembley .......

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Can’t wait to see which Manager’s job he gets.

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He wasn't top flight then and they were only playing a mid-table div 1 team in the reserve cup.

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Closet Man Ure fan surfaces !
If you live in Accy probably the most local fan they’ve got.

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For the record Wednesday got promoted in 90-91 to the old first division and won the League Cup.
The following season they finished third in the top flight.

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I’m sure Hughes McClair Sharp Irwin Robson Pallister Bruce Ince et al would be delighted to hear you diss them.

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Ha! Just googled John Sheridan and it seems I underestimated his later career. He was, indeed, highly regarded at Weds.

Maybe because he was always poor when Leeds played them, because Clough only ever played him once, that I was blind to the high regard he was held in.

Hard to believe he would ever have dominated games like he did in the old div 2 though. Hard to describe how much better he was than anyone else.

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Seen as they finished mid-table and Palace finished 3rd they were hardly a good team that season, well below City and the decent teams.

Yorkshire United supporters think they always won the league no doubt, when in fact they had been ****e for decades then.

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totally agree with that. its those that rely on pace only can have problems going up divisions and as they get older too.

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Got to say that at the time this was posted, I was more than worried...

Here we are now, a third of the way through and I do not believe that even the staunchest of Stanley fans would have thought we would be in this position - honestly??

John and Jimmy, have assembled at team that know only how to win!!

To go to top of the league and come away with the points is nothing more than incredible!!!!

Euro 2004 is the utmost example of what can be achieved with team spirit :)

We have no right at all to be in League 1!!

We have no right at all to be in the Football League!!!

We have no right at all to be in existence!!!

We are what we are, we are Stanley!!!!

#WEARESTANLEY

:) :) :)

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Ha ha! Thanks Valarian.... i have been so wrong about Hughes in particular, who i think has actually been immense. I know it's blasphemy but I'm still not 100% convinced Billy is our best bet upfront although he has done better than i thought.

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what has surprised me are that the teams we have played are not as good as i thought they would be. plenty of name players but not much better than who we played last season.

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So please explain who we have got thats better than Billy? cos i am well baffled,

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Don't start Knocking Bill you will upset Sean.

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Your comment is an indication that there isn't too much difference between League 1 and league 2. You could probably add on eight or so teams from the National League too as they are playing under professional standards as well.
Stanley are doing well because we are a well run club,(at last), and have great players playing with a wonderful team ethic!
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

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Cashy - I reckon Hall and Zanzala will end up being our front two.
Billy is doing ok - especially from the penalty spot - so it’s not like I’m going to irrationally slag him off like the Seany haters would .... not like you are one of them of course.

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we will have to disagree on that, whilst i am of the opinion Hall is a very good player, he aint ours as far as i'm aware? whilst he may well get a few games in certain circs,i cant see past Billy.

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Until Conor gets ninety minutes in a competitive game I don't think any of us know. Like Cashy I cant see that happening bar injuries illness or suspension.