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AccyMad 04-01-2019 09:40

Sunderland game
 
Rearranged for Friday, 15th February & will be shown live on Sky!! Kerching ££!! :)

Whoops!! Scratch that - it's the away fixture that's on Sky, silly me read it all wrong :)

Chimer 04-01-2019 09:49

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Hopefully it might still send some ££££ our way?

Just for a minute I thought we were playing them home and away over 2 days - now that would be fun:D

Exile on Spencer St 04-01-2019 13:15

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Bumholes, that’s probably scuppered going to the Stadium of Light for us.

Lord Didsbury 04-01-2019 19:43

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Wot a bummer!
Will probably still go - some hopeful dash up the A1, arriving with minutes to spare.
I’m not one for making away matches into some full day ****up, and I like evening games, so in some respects it shouldn’t make that much difference but Fridays are a bit weird for footy aren’t they?
There will be a lot of people who will not be able to make it, or it will be a huge faff, or have been looking forward to the big day out all season. Probably kill the atmosphere.

Apparently we get a paltry £10k from Sky for it.

sherry 04-01-2019 21:17

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Apparently we don't get anything. Changed arrangement re the distribution of SKY money amongst League 1 teams.

AccyMad 04-01-2019 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherry (Post 1221593)
Apparently we don't get anything. Changed arrangement re the distribution of SKY money amongst League 1 teams.

Seriously? So they change a fixture to suit Sky & in doing so make it difficult for some fans to attend, mad as some of us are about it I think most probably thought at least it's money in the bank for the club but we get diddly squat?!? Ohhhh, i feel a rant coming on :mad:

sherry 04-01-2019 22:14

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quote from Darragh MacAnthony to Andy on twitter

"None per game for L1 anymore. We all agreed it went into pot as opposed to old way where home team got I think 35k & away team 10k. Usual teams always on and others never on hence a divy up amongst all teams through year as opposed to that way. Sorry pal no dough bonus."

Dav1d 04-01-2019 22:43

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Supposedly we have written to the EFL asking game to be changed back to Saturday due to fans losing money on Travel/accomfation

VALAIRIAN 05-01-2019 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherry (Post 1221600)
quote from Darragh MacAnthony to Andy on twitter

"None per game for L1 anymore. We all agreed it went into pot as opposed to old way where home team got I think 35k & away team 10k. Usual teams always on and others never on hence a divy up amongst all teams through year as opposed to that way. Sorry pal no dough bonus."

So that means we get more then???? :confused:

Or have I read it wrongly??

:) :) :)

cashman 05-01-2019 09:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1221608)
So that means we get more then???? :confused:

Or have I read it wrongly??

:) :) :)

Are yeh still boiled joe? dont read that way to me,

VALAIRIAN 05-01-2019 09:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1221609)
Are yeh still boiled joe? dont read that way to me,


:D :D :D

Must be how I am reading it Cashy :)

monkey hanger 05-01-2019 09:19

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[QUOTE=Lord Didsbury;1221588]Wot a bummer!

There will be a lot of people who will not be able to make it, or it will be a huge faff, or have been looking forward to the big day out all season.

being retired it should not bother me. its not going up thats the trouble its coming back with all the pop up nightime road works wether you go up the a1 or a19. and getting home in the early hours of the morning and being knackered all next day.

AccyMad 05-01-2019 09:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dav1d (Post 1221602)
Supposedly we have written to the EFL asking game to be changed back to Saturday due to fans losing money on Travel/accomfation

Sod be good if that happened but unfortunately can't see it - at least we'd have tried though

Lord Stiffupperlip 05-01-2019 09:28

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That Sky can dictate when any particular game can be held to suit their own ends & b****r any inconvenience for real fans only confirms who is really controlling our game.
The EFL are but custodians of football & it's time that clubs had a veto over decisions that adversely affect their own fans.
They say 'money talks', but without real fans there would be no game.

Crown Grounder 05-01-2019 11:12

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I'm still going, staying Friday and Saturday night at that Hotel next to the Stadium. Make a weekend of it, unless the 5th round intervenes ....which I doubt for some reason?

sherry 05-01-2019 22:04

Re: Sunderland game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherry (Post 1221600)
quote from Darragh MacAnthony to Andy on twitter

"None per game for L1 anymore. We all agreed it went into pot as opposed to old way where home team got I think 35k & away team 10k. Usual teams always on and others never on hence a divy up amongst all teams through year as opposed to that way. Sorry pal no dough bonus."

About turn! Now told that Mr. MacAnthony is not up to speed as a return to the 35k home team, 10k away team format came back this season.

monkey hanger 07-01-2019 12:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1221616)
That Sky can dictate when any particular game can be held to suit their own ends & b****r any inconvenience for real fans only confirms who is really controlling our game.
The EFL are but custodians of football & it's time that clubs had a veto over decisions that adversely affect their own fans.
They say 'money talks', but without real fans there would be no game.

trouble is you cannot have it both ways. without the tele money i think stanley would have been up some street without a paddle in the past. some will always attend no matter when or where a game is being played.

AccyMad 07-01-2019 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1221798)
trouble is you cannot have it both ways. without the tele money i think stanley would have been up some street without a paddle in the past. some will always attend no matter when or where a game is being played.

I think if this game had been scheduled for the telly initially when the fixtures first came out it wouldn't have been too much of a problem for most, it's the tinkering with it at relatively short notice that's caused the issues

VALAIRIAN 07-01-2019 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1221800)
I think if this game had been scheduled for the telly initially when the fixtures first came out it wouldn't have been too much of a problem for most, it's the tinkering with it at relatively short notice that's caused the issues

Agree completely.... :)

Lord Stiffupperlip 07-01-2019 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1221798)
trouble is you cannot have it both ways. without the tele money i think stanley would have been up some street without a paddle in the past. some will always attend no matter when or where a game is being played.

MH I don't want it both ways. I want to be able to support my team at the Stadium of Light, an experience we have been all eagerly anticipating since the start of the season.
Let's take your argument to it's logical conclusion. Suppose every away game Stanley played was re-arranged to a Friday night to suit Sky TV, making it almost impossible for fans to attend. Would that be acceptable?
Should we expect ordinary fans to sacrifice their loyalty in return for 30 pieces of silver?
Of course there will be some who will always attend. Unfortunately, I won't be one of them & I'm certain I won't be the only one who will find it impossible to make this game.
This is an away game we may only ever get one chance to experience.
Thanks Sky for ruining that experience for the majority of our fans.

Chewbacca 07-01-2019 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1221897)
MH I don't want it both ways. I want to be able to support my team at the Stadium of Light, an experience we have been all eagerly anticipating since the start of the season.
Let's take your argument to it's logical conclusion. Suppose every away game Stanley played was re-arranged to a Friday night to suit Sky TV, making it almost impossible for fans to attend. Would that be acceptable?
Should we expect ordinary fans to sacrifice their loyalty in return for 30 pieces of silver?
Of course there will be some who will always attend. Unfortunately, I won't be one of them & I'm certain I won't be the only one who will find it impossible to make this game.
This is an away game we may only ever get one chance to experience.
Thanks Sky for ruining that experience for the majority of our fans.

The Friday night footy has been common since "Nationwide" days starting 1997, and it is always a bigger clubs that gets the most games. Stanley do the same thing for non-tv matches.

In the conference it happened to us a lot when we were top, such as Forest Green and Gravesend, and goes with the territory.

The Sunderland game is likely to be played mid-week anyway, and I certainly do hope it ends up on a Tuesday in March or April. It is one of the least interesting games just in a big generic stadium.

Lord Stiffupperlip 07-01-2019 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1221910)
The Sunderland game is likely to be played mid-week anyway, and I certainly do hope it ends up on a Tuesday in March or April. It is one of the least interesting games just in a big generic stadium.

I was talking about the away tie originally scheduled for Saturday 16th Feb @ 3.00pm & now moved to Friday night @ 7.45pm, not the re-arranged abandoned home tie, which of course will have to played mid-week.
As for one of the least interesting games in a big generic stadium?
This is a league 1 side who boasted a 46,000 gate on boxing day.
Had we been playing on a Saturday, we may have had 5 or 6 coaches going.
We'll be lucky to muster 2 or 3 for a Friday night match.

monkey hanger 08-01-2019 08:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1221897)
This is an away game we may only ever get one chance to experience.
Thanks Sky for ruining that experience for the majority of our fans.

do you think sky will bother about a few hundred stanley fans though. think accymad got it right by saying that if it had been altered much earlier then it would not have been as much of an issue. there will be some of our fans also would say why do stanley not get on tele as its the usual so called big teams every week.

Lord Stiffupperlip 08-01-2019 09:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1221968)
do you think sky will bother about a few hundred stanley fans though.

MH, you've hit the nail on the head!
Sky don't give a flying fig for real football fans, only the armchair variety.

Mr T 08-01-2019 10:53

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The EFL get £76 million ( from memory) approx 80% of the external revenue they receive. Vast majority goes directly to clubs.

All sponsors expect "value for money" so they call the shots.

Leeds rarely play at Saturday 3pm as do WBA who have been on Sky thirteen times already this season!!

Chewbacca 09-01-2019 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1221931)
I was talking about the away tie originally scheduled for Saturday 16th Feb @ 3.00pm & now moved to Friday night @ 7.45pm, not the re-arranged abandoned home tie, which of course will have to played mid-week.
As for one of the least interesting games in a big generic stadium?
This is a league 1 side who boasted a 46,000 gate on boxing day.
Had we been playing on a Saturday, we may have had 5 or 6 coaches going.
We'll be lucky to muster 2 or 3 for a Friday night match.

It has always been subject to change being on an FA Cup weekend, and still remains being subject to being re-arranged. If it does you can blame Coley for beating Soton who could be more adrift in the relegation zone in 2 games time, with a relegation 2 games in 4 days to follow and the EDS playing.

mab 25-01-2019 16:05

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could be played before our home game with the black cats which is now been moved https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...anged-15733421

cashman 25-01-2019 16:06

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yep thats life.

AccyMad 25-01-2019 17:30

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We're gonna be playing it as a pre-season friendly at this rate . . . . . ... . :)

mab 30-01-2019 22:54

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:)Sunderland game rearranged

Stanley will host Sunderland on Tuesday 2 April, subject to the Black Cats progress in the Checkatrade Trophy.
Jack Ross’ side journey to the Wham Stadium for the second time this season after our original game in December was abandoned due to heavy rain.
Kick-off is at 7.45pm.
Should the Wearside club feature in the Checkatrade Trophy final on Sunday 31 March, our League One clash will be postponed for an additional 24 hours and take place on Wednesday 3 April, as per EFL Regulation 26.4.
Ticket information will be announced in due course.

choirboy 31-01-2019 12:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1221974)
MH, you've hit the nail on the head!
Sky don't give a flying fig for real football fans, only the armchair variety.

You can have your say on these issues by doing the EFL Survey which you can find now on the Stanley 'Fishy' site;
https://accringtonstanley.co.uk/2019...hat-you-think/

Exile on Spencer St 31-01-2019 14:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1223637)
You can have your say on these issues by doing the EFL Survey which you can find now on the Stanley 'Fishy' site;
https://accringtonstanley.co.uk/2019...hat-you-think/

Aye, if you have thirty minutes to spare. Dozens of questions to answer, very few about what fans think of the EFL.

cashman 31-01-2019 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1223640)
Aye, if you have thirty minutes to spare. Dozens of questions to answer, very few about what fans think of the EFL.

Well true but i told the useless sods what i thought of em.:D

Lord Stiffupperlip 31-01-2019 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1223637)
You can have your say on these issues by doing the EFL Survey which you can find now on the Stanley 'Fishy' site;

Already completed before you posted choirboy.
I'm always suspicious of anything online that offer tempting 'prizes' for those who bother to enter.
After half an hour, I was almost losing the will to live but persevered out of loyalty to the club.
Then, sure enough at the end came the real reason for this so called 'Fans Survey'.
A list of of the prizes - available only if you provide your contact details; together with the usual tick boxes for any mug wishing to be inundated with emails from quote -'interested third parties'
Are the EFL genuinely interested in the opinions of ordinary fans?
Or is it just an exercise to make money by selling your details on to advertisers?

cashman 31-01-2019 19:30

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The E.F.L. are a bag of crap, and i told em so and why at the back end of that ridiculous survey.

choirboy 01-02-2019 10:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1223648)
Already completed before you posted choirboy.
I'm always suspicious of anything online that offer tempting 'prizes' for those who bother to enter.
After half an hour, I was almost losing the will to live but persevered out of loyalty to the club.
Then, sure enough at the end came the real reason for this so called 'Fans Survey'.
A list of of the prizes - available only if you provide your contact details; together with the usual tick boxes for any mug wishing to be inundated with emails from quote -'interested third parties'
Are the EFL genuinely interested in the opinions of ordinary fans?
Or is it just an exercise to make money by selling your details on to advertisers?

I opted out of the Prize Draw but like Cashy I tried to tell them how much I loved my club :theband:
but not the EFL !
:niet:

cashman 01-02-2019 11:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1223673)
I opted out of the Prize Draw but like Cashy I tried to tell them how much I loved my club :theband:
but not the EFL !
:niet:

Oh i put in for the draw outa badness.:D

monkey hanger 02-02-2019 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Stiffupperlip (Post 1223648)
Are the EFL genuinely interested in the opinions of ordinary fans?
Or is it just an exercise to make money by selling your details on to advertisers?

same as for the FA. two surveys in twelve months done for grassroots referees and guess what, nowt has changed. another box ticking exercise to show everyone that they are interested but in reality could not care a damn.


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