The Scunthrope game.
 

*&^$%^&$%@*^&%)&$#&%$@#*$(*^)%^$!!!:mad:

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Noooooooooooo .

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Not good at all.

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C'mon STANLEY-where's the come back??

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Think its gone mate we have had 16 attempts and not scored they have 10 and scored two.:(

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3 points off relegation spots when last I checked. Like our first season back in the League we are in a fight for survival make no mistake about it!

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Gone from the P word to the R word in 90 minutes :(

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More attacking formation now with Armstrong, Zanzala and Brown on ........but maybe too late..... Come on Stanley.......

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Well we did start with 2 up front today mate??

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Always difficult with new players in the team, early days fro the QPR lad. Still we know where the problem lies........... Not scored in the last 6 league games and you can't win if you don't score.....

Travelling up to Sunderland on friday, now that will be difficult to watch.....

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Need something to change soon or we'll be heading down maybe time to change some upfront players who are guilty of missed chances home games definitely important now go out to win them 30 points to play for at home.

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Just stopped at Hartshead Moor services and had my first look at the table. Plymouth overtake us and others make ground with Bristol, Shrews drawing and Oxford frustrate Sunderland just in time for our visit on Friday !
3 points above the drop, no sign of a goal, a failing midfield.
Time for drastic action, this is my last big Mc, time to go VEGAN, lettuce pray.:hidewall:

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I have no idea where to start after that inept display 1 to 11.
Armstrong the only glimmer of a light.
Out thought, out muscled .......
Something has to give .... stuck with the squad .... over to you Coleman.

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How many nil nils do we need to stay up?

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17................:)

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Ah an optimist thinking we’d get nil !

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Lol.

As it stands, we're in the poodoo. On the plus side we've got a 3 point head start and at least 2 games in hand - against Sunderland, Blackpool and Oxford. We MUST beat Oxford and get something againdt one of the others.

But we need to solve the goal drought. We seem to be creating the chances so whats going wrong? Does Billy need resting? We need to settle on a partner for him asap because it wont do us any good to keep swapping about. Personally i like the look of Armstrong as we carry an aerial threat with him in the side

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Sorry John excuse after excuse not good enough you pick the team every poor ??

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if we did manage to win 4 games on the bounce we,d be in the top half of the table and same for other clubs around us. most of these players were in the side when we were getting good results so the team should be able to do it again. coley has some hard work to do in the next few weeks to really lift the lads.

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Agree about Armstrong was our best player at Charlton very unlucky not to score took a great save to stop him ok cup tied against Derby but should have been in against Gillingham Coleman talks about personel changes but never makes many as I have said in previous posts midfield very weak can't handle quick counter attacks which occur a lot due to our constant forays forward down the flanks, if you want to play Kee up-front with a Smyth type player more attacks must come through the center crossing constantly to small forwards isn't working.

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So we need young Stamp Finley back in asap!

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After yesterday’s inept defensive display it’s Sykes we need back urgently.

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Since the 20th October, we have won just 2 games. It is much deeper than Finley and Sykes.
We can’t retain possession in the middle , teams run through us, the non tackle on the edge of the box for their second typified us. Coleman needs to settle his differences before pride takes us down.

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But the defence is constantly on the back foot because of a spineless midfield with no aggression in it Finlay is a bit more aggressive but loses his head too often would like Scotty in there 1st choice with the rest built around him,also Maxted looked suspect positionally yesterday for both goals.

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You’re right Simpson but look at the poor attempt at a clearing header by Hughes just before that.
The back five (includes the keeper) were appalling yesterday.
Janoi looks like a player playing catch up due to inactivity and here we go again has never been and never will be a left back.
Callum has always been effective on the front foot but can easily be exposed when we’re in the back foot.
Hughes hardly won a thing all day.
Ben looked lost - communication with the keeper non existent.
Maxted - should have saved them both distribution poor.

But let’s be clear I could go through the lot of them and struggle to find a good word anywhere.
I can’t think of a worse performance since I started watching.

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Yet another game where we had more possession, more shots & almost twice as many corners & yet contrived to lose the game.
The defence are getting some stick, but when you look at the table the real reason is evident.
1. Two teams above us have a worse goal difference than ours.
2. Three teams below have a better goal difference than ours.
3. We have the lowest goals scored bar one - the bottom club.
Of the above facts, no.3 is the most relevant.
We just can't buy a goal at the moment & is the main reason we are where we are.
They say attack is the best form of defence, but we retreat into our own half as soon as opponents regain possession, allowing teams to build attacks unopposed.
Our forwards should be harrying opposing defenders & keepers at all times.
Frankly, I'd swap Zanzala, Smyth & Armstrong for one Paul Mullin.

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What a pity we couldn't swap them all for Jackson.

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That would be the same Mullin who took a dive for Swindon to win a penalty against us last season.
Unless free agent and out of contract, we are stuck with what we have. Short of signing Huey, Dewey, and Louie from Disney F.C. I can only suggest we do something in midfield and become harder to run thru which will allow a front 3 to stretch and get behind which is what Jackson did.

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"That would be the same Mullin who took a dive for Swindon to win a penalty against us last season."

No

:bingobang:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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I think Lord S was talking about THE Paul Mullin, not his diminutive namesake:rolleyes:

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But keep Billy .... ? He’s a main culprit. Unfit and hold up play recently non existent.

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Now is the time to get behind the team not pulling it to bits

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There’s absolutely nothing wrong with constructive criticism.
There’s absolutely everything wrong with saying things you don’t mean.
Being critical doesn’t mean you’re not behind the team.

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My favourite ever heckle was to the diminutive namesake ... "you're that crap that youre not even the best Paul Mullin on the pitch"

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No my friend, I'm talking about the Stanley legend Paul Mullin who, for those with short memories, scored a total of 79 goals between 2003 - 08.
The only diving Paul did was when he slipped on the soap in the shower.

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Rather harsh 28 to brand Billy as 'a main culprit' of our current demise.
Is this the same Billy who scored 25 goals last year to help us win the league.
Everyone is mystified by his apparent loss of form, but I don't feel that loss is in any way due to a lack of effort on his part.
It's not just Billy who isn't scoring, his team mates aren't exactly helping matters.
League 1 is a big step up from 2, made more difficult by the loss of some key players.
It will take time for the new squad to gel but we have little option but to persevere.
If he scores 1 goal for us next week that wins the game, he'll be our hero again.

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Read what I put. A main culprit not the main culprit.
Quite frankly what he did last season is consigned to the history books so let’s get real and talk about the here and now.
You were ready and willing to cast away Zanzala Armstrong and Smyth weren’t you ?
Billy is not a Demi God.
He is currently an under performing centre forward with a poor goals return. Take away spot kicks and what is left ?
I stress not the culprit, a culprit - one of a few.

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For the record I take your comments about Zanzala Armstrong and Smyth harsh.
Armstrong had minimal minutes on the pitch Saturday and put in far more than Billy did over 90.
If you were there (doubt it) tell me I’m wrong.

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It's all about survival now this season we have good league 2 players but that is what they are they are all struggling to adapt to league 1 we just need a bit of luck against the other clubs around us that also need points and we could stay up, if we do next season is the yardstick Coleman wants to assemble a squad capable of a top 2 side his words great if he does but we will always be constrained by the budget.

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as we sit just 3 points above the relegation, I just had a look at the relegation odds
wombles 1/20 gills 5/6 bantams 1/1 dale 5/4 saddlers 15/8 shrews 2/1 gas 9/4 pilgrims 11/4 yellows 4/1 scunny 8/1 and stanley at 9/1

well at least the bookies see us pretty safe

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Hope it’s not the same bookies who had Stanley as relegation certs at the start of last season.:rolleyes:

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i also think we are pretty safe, only those who panic and are tarts think otherwise at this stage.:D

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I read what you put; 'He’s a main culprit. Unfit and hold up play recently non existent'
I'm not twisting your words - I quoted you verbatim.
Here are some more of your 'quotes' from Saturday;
#13 'have no idea where to start after that inept display 1 to 11'
#25. You specifically criticise Hughes, Donacien, Johnson, Richards-Everton & Maxted before stating;
'But let’s be clear I could go through the lot of them and struggle to find a good word anywhere'.
I can’t think of a worse performance since I started watching'.
#36. 'He is currently an under performing centre forward with a poor goals return'.
After damning the whole team, what do you suggest? Drop the lot & field our youth team?
You're right, I wasn't at the game (I never inferred I was) & had to rely on the stats, which proved we had - 53% possession, 17 shots & 10 corners.
Yes we lost, but hardly the doomsday scenario you describe.
My comment about Zanzala, Armstrong & Smyth being swapped for Paul Mullin was intended as 'tongue-in-cheek'.
The latter 2 strikers are so far unproven but were signed due largely to the former proving ineffective.
No one wants them to succeed more than me, but none of them are fit to lace the boots of Paul Mullin

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'You're right, I wasn't at the game (I never inferred I was) & had to rely on the stats, which proved we had - 53% possession, 17 shots & 10 corners.
Yes we lost, but hardly the doomsday scenario you describe.'

Disclaimer: Did not go on Saturday.

Possession stats can be a bit misleading I (rightly or wrongly) got the impression the game had been lost by half-time.

For all our possession in games we've struggled to create good quality chances all season. without the pace of a Jackson or Windass usually we just give the opposition time to get back their shape.

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Too right Morse.
Stats for stats sake.
Watch the game for 90 minutes I say then work it out.

Chelski had 44% possession yesterday and 12 efforts on goal.
If an armchair fan didn't know the score he'd think they'd nicked a point.
Lord Stiff - they were awful ! I take nothing back.
Ask the other die hards sat in the stand what they thought.
Play like that for the rest of the season and we're down.
I expect a reaction starting Friday.
The run of four fixtures at home after that.

Minimum 8 points please.

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Surely the stat that is most disturbing is that we had 16 chances and didn't score and the Irons had 10 chances and scored 2. I wouldn't think that it will matter how much better we play if we don't put away our chances.

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[QUOTE=pifco;1224094]Surely the stat that is most disturbing is that we had 16 chances and didn't score and the Irons had 10 chances and score 2

didn,t see the game but there are chances and chances. these statistics can really mean nothing though like the endless one about side A having 75 per cent posession and side B only 25. its what you actually do with it when you get it that counts and not how long you can pass sideways and backwards without doing anything positive with the ball.

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hate to say it but i,d rest billy for a couple of games and try 2 of the other 3 in the starting line up. looks jaded to me and gets very little protection from match officials. you can only take so much hammer no matter who you are.

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Hold the front page!!!! Stanley have scored!! 2 of the buggers!!

2-2 (Zanzala and Nolan) against Rovers in Lancs Cup, but beaten on penalties

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Was only Zanzala @ Mangan scored from the spot.

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Just glad that two goals were scored during the game.
Penalties are a bit of a lottery, though I hope it was the Rovers’ keeper who saved them and not Stanley players missing the target!

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Zanzala was a one on one with the keeper having been played thru and nolan was a near post header. Mangan scored in the penalty shoot out.

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2 pens did hit the bar, dunno oer the other,

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On one of the many times Billy got clattered two Scunny supporters stood near me said that's foul what's the Ref watching. He was more concerned about throw ins being taken from the right place.