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Lord Stiffupperlip 14-08-2019 15:29

Carabao Cup Match
 
Surprised by the lack of posts regarding last nights game, our first at home.
For those unable to attend, it would be great to get some opinions on how we played?
In particular, how well did the new boys perform?
Was it as easy for Sunderland as the cold stats implied, courtesy of the BBC Sports app?
:confused::confused::confused:

ferret man 14-08-2019 16:13

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No

Revived Red 14-08-2019 16:46

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Originally Posted by ferret man (Post 1230350)
No

Thanks for such a helpful answer to a sensible question. :confused:

AccyMad 14-08-2019 17:38

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Personally, I enjoyed the game & to be honest I thought their first goal was slightly against the run of play.
It was a shame that Bishop missed a good chance in the first half so I was pleased to see him score the penalty & clock up his first goal for us.
Of the new lads Maguire & Pritchard impressed me, the others did ok too although not sure about Baker-Richardson yet & I thought we matched Sunderland for large periods of the game to be honest.
Saying that, when they subbed Will Grigg for McGeady I had a feeling it wouldn't be long before he scored & was proved right. I thought 3 - 1 flattered them a bit but at the end of the day they took their chances & the bottom line is that goals win games.
Didn't come away too disappointed, indeed there were a lot of positives I thought. Ross Sykes deserved his motm award although Jordan Clark would've been a good shout too, he played out of his skin

StanleyJosh 14-08-2019 18:16

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Negatives first, think I must of been watching a completely different game to everyone else as personally I though Maguire was awful.
Constantly out of position, offered not much going forward and always seemed to be a yard behind defending.
Surprised at Barclay playing CM, Coley must see something there as it wasn’t an enforced choice and he played there during pre season. Thought he too was poor and rarely offered anything, another one who seemed to be always behind play.
For the majority of the game Sykes played well although sloppy to let a player get goalside for the 3rd. Similar story with Hughes, beaten in the air easily in build up to 3rd and could of done better for 2nd.
Crossing was poor, either didn’t beat the first man or went straight into their keepers arms.

Onto the positives, we weren’t outplayed and we more than held our own, especially for 25 mins of the second half where Dimi must of touched the ball no more than a few times.
Finley was absolutely exceptional in the middle, I would even go as far as saying that is the best I have seen him in a Stanley shirt. Almost scored a beaut of a goal and if anyone thinks he is to blame for the 2nd with a poor pass, why did Ben just stand there and not come to the ball. Must be a thing with tall players called Ben.....
Clicker must of had a magnet in his boots linked to one in the ball as his touch to control the ball was simply breathtaking at times. Thought he had a really good game too and would of probably chose him for M.O.M if I had the choice.
Colby ran himself into the ground, deserved his goal, was unlucky to get the ball stuck under his feet for the tap in and if he had a bit more energy in him to jump highest to get up in the box he could have had another.
Let’s not forget that not only is it a huge step up in terms of quality, but his way of life has significantly changed too. He has gone from working full time and training a couple of times a week to training full time. It will take a bit for his body to adapt to that.

All in all, a good enjoyable match where we showed grit and determination and a real desire to create. Looking at the upcoming league games, they are all winnable and will shape our season. On last nights showing, I think we will be alright.

Up The Accy x

p.s, hope you are all signed up members to the OASSC!
p.p.s, Clayton End surfer flag....just WOW

Lord Didsbury 14-08-2019 19:01

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I thought Finley was superb but none of the new players impressed.
Fairly close game, and reasonably entertaining but the Makems shaded it.
A few more ground improvements to admire- not least a flat pitch.

The Alchemist 14-08-2019 21:00

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I felt that Carvalho [Number 23] showed more threat in the four minutes he had on the pitch than Baker-Richardson [Number 31] showed in his 79 minutes.

StanleyJosh 14-08-2019 22:01

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Originally Posted by The Alchemist (Post 1230370)
I felt that Carvalho [Number 23] showed more threat in the four minutes he had on the pitch than Baker-Richardson [Number 31] showed in his 79 minutes.

Can’t agree with that, thought Baker-Richardson put himself about well, chased down defenders and was constantly trying to stretch the Sunderland defence.
Don’t recall Carvalho having any impact tbh.

The Alchemist 15-08-2019 16:38

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Barker-Richardson may well have ‘put himself about well, chased down defenders and was trying to stretch the Sunderland defence’ but clearly he wasn’t pleasing Mr. Coleman, hence his substitution. Given that Carvalho’s time on the pitch was hardly worth being sent on, he did catch my eye. Though my eyesight is probably similar to the German alchemist Henig Brand who stars in my atavar. Let the season unravel and allow time for further comparisons to be made.

andyd 15-08-2019 17:20

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Originally Posted by The Alchemist (Post 1230402)
Barker-Richardson may well have ‘put himself about well, chased down defenders and was trying to stretch the Sunderland defence’ but clearly he wasn’t pleasing Mr. Coleman, hence his substitution. Given that Carvalho’s time on the pitch was hardly worth being sent on, he did catch my eye. Though my eyesight is probably similar to the German alchemist Henig Brand who stars in my atavar. Let the season unravel and allow time for further comparisons to be made.

First game for him amongst others he did put himself about not sure wether it was enough that hopefully will come as for the game 2 or 3 of their players first half were guicker thinking on the ball especially McNulty and Gooch who to me is how you pop up all over the midfield and usually found a pass 2nd half we improved got the penetration and a penalty well struck by Bishop who looks like nutured could be a player then they took waste of money Grigg off brought Mcgeady what a player at this level and Wyke too good for us especially if you play a suicidal pass when not needing to across your own back 4 infront of Mcgeady puts your defenders on the wrong foot bread and butter to him he was never going to miss 3 goal was icing on the cake for them and possibly a bit harsh on Stanley but enjoyable evening and positives big squad and probably a lot of face changes before a settled winning side.

Simpson 15-08-2019 17:53

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It’s probably my age, but Andy I’m out of breath reading your post. Any chance of a full stop at some point to help the lungs ��.
As for last night, we have to be supportive but I do feel a lot of our recruitment have been “punts” that I’m struggling to understand. I genuinely hope I’m wrong.
Thought Clark showed his class and echo Finley comments. Is Clark entering last season of contract and if so will there be an extension ?

andyd 15-08-2019 18:01

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Originally Posted by Simpson (Post 1230406)
It’s probably my age, but Andy I’m out of breath reading your post. Any chance of a full stop at some point to help the lungs ��.
As for last night, we have to be supportive but I do feel a lot of our recruitment have been “punts” that I’m struggling to understand. I genuinely hope I’m wrong.
Thought Clark showed his class and echo Finley comments. Is Clark entering last season of contract and if so will there be an extension ?

Sorry was eating tea at the same time will try punctuation more often.

andyd 15-08-2019 18:03

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Originally Posted by Simpson (Post 1230406)
It’s probably my age, but Andy I’m out of breath reading your post. Any chance of a full stop at some point to help the lungs ��.
As for last night, we have to be supportive but I do feel a lot of our recruitment have been “punts” that I’m struggling to understand. I genuinely hope I’m wrong.
Thought Clark showed his class and echo Finley comments. Is Clark entering last season of contract and if so will there be an extension ?

I,m not sure about punts our team will have had them watched hopefully but a lot are young lads and we do have under 23 commitments as well this season.

Twenty Eight 15-08-2019 19:03

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Clark is in his final year (club took up the one year option).
He’s free to speak to other clubs from January.

Simpson 15-08-2019 20:59

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1230416)
Clark is in his final year (club took up the one year option).
He’s free to speak to other clubs from January.

That’s my understanding and partly why I am underwhelmed by our signings either as replacements for him or as enticement to sign a new contract. If he goes I wish him well.

monkey hanger 16-08-2019 08:59

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[QUOTE=Lord Didsbury;1230361]I thought Finley was superb but none of the new players impressed.

seems you and others have mainly mentioned last years players. didn,t go but i am a little worried about the experiance at this level of a few of the new signings. not knocking anyone yet though.

Exile on Spencer St 16-08-2019 09:50

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Will be enjoying the privilege of watching Stanley for another season in League 1 tomorrow, and looking forward to seeing the new and ‘old’ players, but I suspect my opinions on any of them after one, or even two games is worth diddly-squat. Trying to remember whether Kayden Jackson, who had a massive part to play in the promotion, had an immediate impact or whether it took a while for him to gel. Certainly Piero Mingoia showed little promise in his first few outings.
Always reckoned it takes 10 games to make most judgements, and even then many of mine were wrong in the end.

StanleyJosh 16-08-2019 10:48

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1230427]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1230361)
I thought Finley was superb but none of the new players impressed.

seems you and others have mainly mentioned last years players. didn,t go but i am a little worried about the experiance at this level of a few of the new signings. not knocking anyone yet though.

Fortunately it is still the majority of last years players who are starting.
We have lost fringe players and replaced them. Up to them to force their way into the starting 11.

StanleyJosh 16-08-2019 10:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Alchemist (Post 1230402)
Barker-Richardson may well have ‘put himself about well, chased down defenders and was trying to stretch the Sunderland defence’ but clearly he wasn’t pleasing Mr. Coleman, hence his substitution. Given that Carvalho’s time on the pitch was hardly worth being sent on, he did catch my eye. Though my eyesight is probably similar to the German alchemist Henig Brand who stars in my atavar. Let the season unravel and allow time for further comparisons to be made.

I don't think the substitution was down to his performance, more so his lack of game time recently.

VALAIRIAN 16-08-2019 12:02

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Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1230430)
I don't think the substitution was down to his performance, more so his lack of game time recently.

I thought the same :)

VALAIRIAN 16-08-2019 12:04

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1230428)
Will be enjoying the privilege of watching Stanley for another season in League 1 tomorrow, and looking forward to seeing the new and ‘old’ players, but I suspect my opinions on any of them after one, or even two games is worth diddly-squat.

Trying to remember whether Kayden Jackson, who had a massive part to play in the promotion, had an immediate impact or whether it took a while for him to gel.

Certainly Piero Mingoia showed little promise in his first few outings.
Always reckoned it takes 10 games to make most judgements, and even then many of mine were wrong in the end.

Scored on his first game at the Crown and was a handful all game(season) :)

Agree though, some players hit the ground running, whilst others take time to settle in :)

VALAIRIAN 16-08-2019 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1230354)
Personally, I enjoyed the game & to be honest I thought their first goal was slightly against the run of play.
It was a shame that Bishop missed a good chance in the first half so I was pleased to see him score the penalty & clock up his first goal for us.
Of the new lads Maguire & Pritchard impressed me, the others did ok too although not sure about Baker-Richardson yet & I thought we matched Sunderland for large periods of the game to be honest.
Saying that, when they subbed Will Grigg for McGeady I had a feeling it wouldn't be long before he scored & was proved right. I thought 3 - 1 flattered them a bit but at the end of the day they took their chances & the bottom line is that goals win games.
Didn't come away too disappointed, indeed there were a lot of positives I thought. Ross Sykes deserved his motm award although Jordan Clark would've been a good shout too, he played out of his skin



Agree with most of that Di, but think that Maguire was out of position a few times.

When all said and done, we have lost some players and got some new ones in, problem is not how many, but who!! :)

Whilst we have still got Macca and Hughesy, we have lost some kee players unfortunately...... :(


Still early doors though :)

:) :) :)

Exile on Spencer St 16-08-2019 12:12

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Thanks, Valairian, that lad Jackson was “hotter than a pepper sprout”. ;)

Twenty Eight 16-08-2019 17:39

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12 inexperienced or 6 experienced and a few loanees to supplement ?
That is the conundrum.
I’ve made my feelings clear and tied my colours to the mast.
When you see the likes of young Sterling signing on loan from Tottenham with Doncaster I can’t help thinking ..... wish it was us.
Sorry to sound gloomy but two clubs on minus 12 could be a blessing in disguise.

VALAIRIAN 16-08-2019 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Simpson (Post 1230406)
It’s probably my age, but Andy I’m out of breath reading your post. Any chance of a full stop at some point to help the lungs ��.
As for last night, we have to be supportive but I do feel a lot of our recruitment have been “punts” that I’m struggling to understand. I genuinely hope I’m wrong.


Thought Clark showed his class and echo Finley comments. Is Clark entering last season of contract and if so will there be an extension ?

Got to say that when I heard Coley on the radio on the way home, I was more than surprised....!!

I do not believe that at any time we were a) better than them, b) looking like we were going to win...

Got to run with the Genius and agree that he must always be positive - for the team if nothing else.... :)

Did have a chuckle to myself when Coley said that Clark was the best person on the pitch by a mile :eek: :eek: big him up by all means, but really???

On to the next game :)

:) :) :)

Twenty Eight 16-08-2019 19:54

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Well it is a game of opinions. I agreed with Coley. How on earth our sponsors could pick a defender as man of the match where we have given three away and the player chosen was personally responsible for the third is beyond me.
losing Clicker will be a blow ..... hopefully not before the end of the season.

Chewbacca 16-08-2019 21:10

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1230449)
12 inexperienced or 6 experienced and a few loanees to supplement ?
That is the conundrum.
I’ve made my feelings clear and tied my colours to the mast.
When you see the likes of young Sterling signing on loan from Tottenham with Doncaster I can’t help thinking ..... wish it was us.
Sorry to sound gloomy but two clubs on minus 12 could be a blessing in disguise.

There is no disguise, it is an overt blessing for Stanley's chances of saying up, however not great for Lancashire football.

We can't compete with Doncaster money wise. Wonder what Ross Etheridge is doing this season?

Twenty Eight 16-08-2019 21:17

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Spurs are covering the majority of his wages at Donny so don’t quite get your point.

Twenty Eight 16-08-2019 21:21

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What’s your point re Ross ?

andyd 17-08-2019 08:03

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1230452)
Got to say that when I heard Coley on the radio on the way home, I was more than surprised....!!

I do not believe that at any time we were a) better than them, b) looking like we were going to win...

Got to run with the Genius and agree that he must always be positive - for the team if nothing else.... :)

Did have a chuckle to myself when Coley said that Clark was the best person on the pitch by a mile :eek: :eek: big him up by all means, but really???

On to the next game :)

:) :) :)

I was the same surprised he also said could and should have won the game agree with could, because you could win any game as for should no way can,t remember thier keeper having a serious shot on target to deal with, whereas Emitov produced a few excellent saves keeping us in the game.

Chewbacca 17-08-2019 08:04

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1230467)
What’s your point re Ross ?

They paid him a lot more so he left.

The minority of £10k a week could still be too much for stanley, and if one of teh other 71 clubs signs a loan player, it doesn't mean stanley would be able to, and there are 71 other clubs to compete against.

AccyMad 17-08-2019 11:32

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1230465)
Spurs are covering the majority of his wages at Donny so don’t quite get your point.

What have Spurs got to do with Ross?? He left us & signed for Doncaster, didn't impress much from all accounts & is now playing for Nuneaton although out on loan at Stratford at the moment

MikeA 17-08-2019 13:41

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Ross went from Nuneaton to Stratford on a month's loan in September 2018 and stayed to the end of last season, playing in the same team as Wilson Carvalho. He's not listed in either squad this season.

Twenty Eight 17-08-2019 13:43

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Don’t ask me !
Ask Chewy !
I have no idea why he brought Ross into this. Follow the thread Accymad.

Twenty Eight 17-08-2019 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1230465)
Spurs are covering the majority of his wages at Donny so don’t quite get your point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1230473)
They paid him a lot more so he left.

The minority of £10k a week could still be too much for stanley, and if one of teh other 71 clubs signs a loan player, it doesn't mean stanley would be able to, and there are 71 other clubs to compete against.

He’s not on 10k a week.

AccyMad 17-08-2019 14:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1230495)
Don’t ask me !
Ask Chewy !
I have no idea why he brought Ross into this. Follow the thread Accymad.

Ok, sorry - I got my wires crossed, no need to be snappy

VALAIRIAN 17-08-2019 16:35

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1230497)
Ok, sorry - I got my wires crossed, no need to be snappy

Eas to do when reading post that are replies to further back in the thread ;)

Do not worry AM :)

:) :) :)

Revived Red 18-08-2019 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1230465)
Spurs are covering the majority of his wages at Donny so don’t quite get your point.

Sorry - I'm lost. Whose wages are Spurs covering at Donny?? :confused:

StanleyJosh 18-08-2019 19:24

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1230549)
Sorry - I'm lost. Whose wages are Spurs covering at Donny?? :confused:

Young lad, Sterling.

AccyMad 19-08-2019 06:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 1230549)
Sorry - I'm lost. Whose wages are Spurs covering at Donny?? :confused:

Wasn't just me then :)

Revived Red 19-08-2019 11:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh (Post 1230551)
Young lad, Sterling.

Thanks. Now it makes sense.


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