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C'mon u REDS:theband::mosher::mosher:

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HT stats say we're right in this. C'mon REDS-bite the biscuts...

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Yes!!! Mr bishop !!!

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Heaven !!! 2-0

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:(.. Back off Shrews..2-1

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*&%^%*$(*(&(*^^&%&^t(pg*^i&^$%^%$#%$%i^*^^$!!!!! :(

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WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake me up FFS . :(

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NOT happy. Grumpy day coming up.

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Shouldn't be losing from 2-0 at home. Nothing else to say.

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Followed the match via live text and texts from my daughter at the match. I am in Italy on my hols. BBC stats were heavily in Stanley's favour throughout. At 2 - 0, I was thinking Coley should bring Edwards on with his experience as extra defensive duties in midfield to block them out! So absolutely infuriating to lose from being two goals up. We do seem to be frail defending set plays. Their first two goals conceded from corners!

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My first game of the season.
Supporters club have done a great job with the history and hall of fame work.
First half I thought Shrewsbury where a shade more likely to score.
Second half, the reds came out and applied good pressure to get in the 2 goal lead before it all went wrong. Bishop whom I was impressed with all night had a great chance to score one on one at 2-1 but if felt pivotal.
Clark and Evitomor both had good games.
Maguire was a concern all night and so it proved during there 3rd goal.
A hard blow for the team to take but hopefully they can bounce back.
Our penalty was a clear shirt pull by Beckles whom had been doing it on previous occasions before he was court.


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I'm still trying to make sense of what just happened so I think I'll wait till I've had a good night's sleep & post my reactions tomorrow :(

P.s. Kiwi,you are hereby banned from starting match threads until further notice - thank you & goodnight

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Should that be thank you and good morning to Kiwi.
Just not seeing anything , particularly centrally that makes me think we won’t be vulnerable in the middle.

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Why did I know that was coming??:rolleyes:

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Basic bad defending for all 3 goals. After the first half stanley were lucky to be 2 up, but were controlling the second half and should have seen it out.

Teh weather got worse along with the performance.The penalty given looked like play acting but the yellow for Clark was harsh.

Going to be a long season.

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Entertainment at the Wham tonight got to say though I thought Shrewsbury were the better side we went 2 up good but it cracked over some deficiencies, they made 3 substitutions that ultimately changed the outcome but I said to the lad next to me at 2-0 we needed to put our foot on the ball and slow the tempo, but we lost a bit of discipline and went for the jugular leaving gaps at the back who says the long ball doesn't work was very effective for them and they got the 2nd and 3rd goals well we need to learn and quickly we need home form and soon, thought also when Colby good game by the way went one on one with the keeper his legs had gone, personally would have brought Zanzala on then not wait until injury time.

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Posting in my immediate post match emotion to help me get over this! Worked hard to get in front and so pleased for Bishop and Charles to get their goals. Felt we started to play with a swagger and then demonstrated poor judgement and naive game management as we should have killed the game. Hughes, McConville and Conneelly with their experience should have been talking the rest through winding the game down.

Then all of a sudden, a nothing ball into our box, awful goalkeeping and they’re back in it. Bishop had a golden chance to settle it and that was the turning point, although good substitutions from their manager. Also thought keeper was at fault for their second as appeared to get beaten easily at his near post - he’s never convinced me and was surprised when he re-appeared in pre season as thought we’d have been able to recruit a better option.

Not been too impressed with Maguire to date, albeit its early days, although thought he did ok tonight apart from the goal - the standard of his defending wasn’t even Sunday League - he got everything about it wrong, goalkeeper in no mans land and easy goal.

Such a poor last 15 mins from us with 3 points in our grasp.

The night just about summed up when Clark announced as MotM - the beer must be stronger in the sponsors lounge!

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Just listened to Coley’s post match interview. Fairly balanced, showed his experience and agree with his comments warning against knee jerk reactions. Disappointed he didn’t refer to our poor management of the last 12 minutes and chose to refer to individual mistakes - if we don’t do 1 on 1 marking on their forwards for our corners for, who on earth let that happen with a minute to go in this game - why didn’t Maguire get someone else back, why didn’t the bench see it, why didn’t one of the more experienced players have a quick look and call it.

All that said, he has a job to motivate and lift the players after that, so has to be cautious what he says in public.

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Thought Finley was MOTM tonight. Great first half. But Clark was also ace.

Entertaining game, we passed and moved well.

They always looked fast and dangerous on the attack.

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Finley MOM in my eyes as well, covered a lot of ground and had to put up with Conneely who was poor.
Great strike from Charles, made some good runs that no one picked out too.
Can’t agree with the praise of Clark, thought he was really poor. Would rely on a player like him to lift a team when playing poor, but he only plays well when the team plays well. That & his end product let him down massively.

Awful game management. That’s just basics that you are taught from a young age playing football. Maguire was awful even before their 3rd goal. Seemed out of position constantly. Hideous ball from McConville before their 3rd, why float a free kick to the edge of the 18 yard box.
No one on the subs bench filled me with confidence. Too many average players.

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Quote=accybeme; 'Shrews look like a pillaged team this season. Stanley 2 Shrews 0'
Mmmmm??? Think you got that one the wrong way round my friend.
The Shrews came, they saw, they pillaged - Stanley!
By half time I thought this game has 0-0 all over it, so ineffective was our attack.
The Shrews upped their work rate at the start of the 2nd half & began to put Stanley under real pressure.
In fact, our penalty award in the 67th minute was somewhat against the run of play.
It instilled confidence in the team & when Charles hit an absolute screamer to make it 2-0, the Shrews looked truly pillaged.
5 minutes later Hughes contrived to gift the Shrews a lifeline & the tables began to turn.
When Sam Ricketts (football genius?) made 2 substitutions on 79 minutes, it changed the game.
Within 10 minutes, both Udoh & Okenabirhie had scored the goals to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Naive defending cost us the game, although I think it's ludicrous to blame it all on Evtimov.
Hard work on the training ground is required to turn this present squad into a competent L1 side.

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You reap what you sow.
Massive gamble signing a squad on the basis of potential not on proven experience. The odd one yes - as many as we have no.
Serious childish mistakes being made.
Buckle in for a bumpy ride.
At least two of the relegation berths are filled thank the Lord.

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[QUOTE=Lord Stiffupperlip;
When Sam Ricketts (football genius?) made 2 substitutions on 79 minutes, it changed the game.
Within 10 minutes, both Udoh & Okenabirhie had scored the goals to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Naive defending cost us the game, although I think it's ludicrous to blame it all on Evtimov.

obviously the two lads who came on where attack minded players but what did we do about it. again undone by lack of substitutions. if the lad had not got injured would we actually have made any until the 3rd.goal went in. the charles goal and build up to it deserved to win the game and shows it can be done. overall however i thought our passing and ball retention was poor especially the first half but then bad management with lack of substitutions were as much to blame as player errors.

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Like I said in my earlier thread Shrewsbury just looked better than us we were gifted a penalty and our confidence went up major thing in football but we don't look full of it from the kick off, this as got to change. Coley is on about bringing 1 more in before the window shuts stating a defender should be a good experienced midfielder with a footballers brain for me. Mom for me in the short time he was on was young Dion wasn't afraid to take a man on and showed the others how to finish hope he progresses to be a find.

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Can anyone explain whats good about putting on a striker just into injury time? a sub shoulda been on long before that point to me.:rolleyes: By the way thought the ref made Kettle look good.

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Totally agree with you Cashy as I posted earlier Colby looked blown out should have been then waste off time at 90+1 that's what you do when you're winning to run the clock down.

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thought we were 2nd best throughout, we rearly looked like scoring indeed most of our shots looked like back passes to their goalkeeper, I can only remember two shots that troubled their goalie one from Charles & one from McConville, I recall Valairian posting not got the best feeling about the season ahead, 3 games gone and I've not got the best of feelings, then their is plenty of games to pull this team together, fingers crossed

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I think the term is ' Reality Check '..

1. Shrewsbury always looked dangerous and their substitutions were better than ours !
, and they played exceptionally well on Saturday last if reports are to be believed. Not a team to be underestimated !.

2. Complacency ( which appeared to set in at 2-0 !) is always a dangerous attitude to adopt where Soccer is concerned.

3. It's early days yet, but one or two of our ' senior ' players looked a little past their ''sell -by ' date ( and I know a lot about that I can tell you ! ). Also the newcomers didn't appear to have adopted the ' Stanley ' spirit yet, which I feel helped the Shrews to take the upper hand in the dying minutes of the game !.

Compliments go to Buzzer for producing a superb playing surface for the ' pure ' football to be played upon... but it seemed to me that the ball still managed to spend an awful lot of time soaring in the Accrington clouds !.. .

Better days ahead though ?.. A few headaches for Messrs Coleman and Bell ?..

BUT... ON STANLEY !.. ON TO EVEN GREATER THINGS !.

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I'd agree with all that Alan, except perhaps the term 'soccer' - it's football :)

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the headaches regarding substitutions should have been sussed out long ago given the time they have been in the job.

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My first game of the season, and I need to keep a clear head and not make my mind up about our prospects too early. I suggest we all need to do the same.

Remember, its all about budgets. Ours is low.

We rely on turning up "nuggets" either young and hungry or more experienced who may be losing or have lost their way.

Last season we complained we had too many loans, this season the balance has changed which may help in the weeks and months to come. We created enough chances to win the game but our finishing wasn't quite good enough. I saw enough last night to conclude that we are a good team in the making. It will be up to Coley and Jimmy to nurture, motivate and make the nuggets into little gems.......

Stanley playing in League 1 ......UNBELIEVABLE (for those of you who know our history?) ........I for one know we are living the dream....KTF :)

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Also my first game of the season............ needless to say what a nightmare result.

What seems to be quite strange to me, is that we have the opposite problem of what we usually have at Stanley. The normal amount of early season solid defence and lack of goals has pretty much been 20 of the last 25 season's that I have been going on the crown. (Lutel & Mullin) (Grant & Symes) (Kee & Jackson) apart have really only been what I would call a "proper" strike pairing from August onwards. This year however we seem to have the goals, What a strike from Charles by the way..................

BUT as others have said, at the back we look like schoolboys. Is Evtimov the answer ?? At the moment, you would have to say No. Yes he has made some great saves against Lincoln and Wimbledon in particular, but for me, his decision making & communication simply isnt there.

Maguire again as others have said, had a poor game at LB, assuming Angel will come straight back in on Saturday? Not sure where a few rated Finley last night, thought he pretty much offered nothing along with Conneely.

Coley said we will win games if we carry on playing like that, but on last night's viewing we need major surgery at the back, im my humble opinion !

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Your point about Finley and Conneely ie: midfield is what I have been crowing on about for months any opposition manager or spy's watching must see it has well, all well and good flying down the wings I love it but when it breaks down we have no plan b midfield is often just a open chasm from front to back even poor sides will exploit this never mind good ones.

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What I would do to have a Jimmy Ryan/ Proccy/ Bryan Hughes type player right now !!

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https://www.skysports.com/football/a...ewsbury/409936
Just watched the video highlights on sky.
Oh dear! Oh dear! Oh dear!
It's even worse than I remember on the night.
Their first was a blunder par excellence.
Their second from a corner was a free header as the whole defence, standing like statues, simply watched it fly in the net.
The third was schoolboy stuff, with a solitary Maguire left alone to defend our own half.
A quick high ball out of defence, a fortunate bounce for them - and Bobs yer Uncle!
To surrender a 2 goal lead at home is unforgivable at any level.
At League 1 standard, it's suicidal.

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I thought their second from the corner was actually a front post side foot and not a header, no one attacking the ball and just letting it drop for a near post tap in.
As for the first, should have been emptied out the ground (akin to their 3rd), by our right back who tried to nick it in the tackle like several times last year, lost it and they broke and crossed it with Hughes and others running back to rescue it.
Yes keeper spilt it, but we had and lost possession at right back first.

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From my point of view our keeper plays far too many short balls out, manys the time it does NOT look the best choice to me? i would be tempted to give the young england under 19 a start at Fleetwood.

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Get the feeling this is deliberate policy at Stanley judging by the number of times Hughes literally stood next to Evtimov demanding the ball.
This resulted in some scary moments as soon as Shrewsbury realised what was going on.
By contrast, their keeper was pinging long balls into our half whenever he could.
IMHO, the longer the ball stays in our half the more risk there is of a cock-up.

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you may well be correct, but for me its a crazy policy if so.

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OK , mistakes were made and hopefully they will learn from them . It is early days and as I very often say......Its not how you start , its how you finish that matters.

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I have a feeling he will be playing in the Paint Pot game at home to Fleetwood in a couple of weeks anyway.

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:theband::tongueout:alright:

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It did not make for good viewing Lord S... Unless you happen to be a Shrewsbury supporter that is. !. I can only concur with, and share in your obvious disappointment.
The only way is up !.

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Gosh! I’m stunned by the generally negative tone on here and even criticism of Our maradona (ie, Sam Finley).
Plenty to admire yesterday, in my humble opinion, and cause for optimism... cum on Stanley!!!

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I would love to agree but 2-0 with 13 minutes to play and finish 2-3 does not inspire

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From the video “highlights” (sic), Stanley’s second goal was a gem. Four quick, one-touch passes out from defence, and boom!
But a couple of the Shrews goals appeared to confirm what was clear at Wimbledon - that, on the whole, Stanley’s players are not the strongest in L1.

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Why be shocked Lord ?
Any side two up with 12 minutes to go should get over the line - simples.
I’ve seen better team set ups for how we conceded the winner by pub teams. We leave one on one on the half way line. Incredulous. Even more incredulous when it’s our worst performing player left with that responsibility.
Too many potential gambles as players rather than tried and tested.
You can’t learn as you go on at League One level.
As for your Finlay comment I admire you tongue in cheek comment.
It’s going to be a long old season.

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One of the great things about football is that it’s a game of opinions and we all see things through slightly different lenses. I’ve watched the highlights of last nights game back 4 times and still feel poor goalkeeping cost us the first two goals. The first one in particular was elementary - awful technique and error, they get gifted a goal and it gives them a psychological lift for a real good go at us in the last 10 minutes, add in hungry and fresh substitutes, etc. We folded like a cheap suit, however the catalyst for it all in my view, was the poor goalkeeping that led to the first goal.

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Goal keeping not great for first goal but badly exposed by needlessly giving the ball away and getting caught out of position by the right back. Second goal is a bog standard clearance missed at the front post, and third, enough said. Keeper maybe could have done better but defenders worse and more culpable.

The catalyst was giving the ball away by getting caught in possession deep in your own half.

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unfortunetly if he does play at the weekend he,ll be doing the same. its the way the management want us to play and its not a new thing by any means. there are plenty of ways to play football on all occasions. with our system the pitch is too wide open giving the opposition too much space to exploit our creaking midfield. prefer our defence to get higher up the pitch much quicker but then i have no badges to support this view just my eyes that see a greater number of teams doing this.

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Nothing on the ‘all-new’ Fishy site :rolleyes: but is there any news of Baker-Richardson’s injury?

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I may be totally wrong but, as a tactic that seems recently to have been adopted by more and more teams, I suspect ‘playing out from the back’ started with teams at the top of their ‘pyramids’, who had the players with skill and speed, not to mention the playing surfaces, to be successful at it.
One slip, misplaced pass, or poor control against physical and fast forwards and if can end in tears. Also, if the opposition know you will do this every time, they will harry the defenders before they get past their own penalty area. Pick and choose when to do it and the opposition won’t necessarily know whether to press or retreat at goal kicks.

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its a tactic that will not change either no matter how much we moan, groan or shout about it. jimmy bell told someone who i sit near to about it last season.

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Coley says in an interview now on the all singing, all dancing fishy site that Baker-Richardson needs a scan but is a big doubt for Saturday

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thats not good to hear, hope the lads not too bad.:eek:

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was holding the front of his thigh when he came off. didn,t look really serious but muscle pulls and strains take weeks for him to be fully match fit. great pity as the lad was playing well at the time.