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Anyone watched Rotherham this season?
Anyone know what is there normal style of play?


Going to be a tough game against a relegated championship club

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will be a tough un, but if we play as we can im optimistic our away results aint too bad.

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Interesting to see what the lineup will be.
Ross will be back but who will start next to him in central defence.
Rodgers? Edwards? Ben Barclay? Or Opoku if ZFA is fit again?
I for one hope we start with Bishop & Charles.
Or Clark behind Bishop and Pritchard out wide.

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Wont be out of bed for this one, so should we concede, please feel free to insert &%%&^%$@&%^^()*&^&%#&*&^%(* on my behalf.

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Angol not fit not sure about Maguire I,d play Opoku at centre half full back Edwards or maybe give a young lad a start likes of Harry Perritt, rest of the side I fear Cloey won't alter much but to me Bishop needs a break play 1 upfront away from home, he says everybody is putting 2 markers on Clark so play him in a free roaming role behind the front man.

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Optimistic ... Hmmmmmmmm ?? :confused::rolleyes:

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Gosh..... where have all the first team players gone?????

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Harry Perritt injured
Surprised at Barclay and Maguire starting.

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I,m not it needed change we were very poor against Crewe, apart from Diallo on the bench no loanees in the matchday squad have seen Coley do this numerous times over the years not guaranteed to work but something had to give.

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WAS???:eek:

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Not sure how that XI line up????

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I just hope that xi do. lol

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1` down:eek:

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&%%&^%$@&%^^()*&^&%#&*&^%(*

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Rotherham playing Football !. Stanley playing Hòofball !.. Who is going to score though ?.
Sykes possibly from a set piece ?. A Midfielder ?.. most unlikely !. Our lone striker isolated against 2 defenders ?..dont think so !.
BUT 45 minutes to go and anything can happen !.. hopefully !. :confused:

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It didn't!,.. NO GOALS !.. NO POINTS !.. NOVEMBER !!. :(

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Thank goodness Wimbledon(S) lost.....

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DAM. :( . Grumpy Sunday I wouldnt like to be my golf ball in 2 hours time.

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No other loanees as either injured or on international duty.
Apart from Simpson who has been poor

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Wasn’t going to go but had the fortune to have a corporate invite from a sponsor I occasionally help with year end accounts. Really impressed with the set up and stadium. Ou performance was as expected, very long ball and little thought in keeping possession.

I said at the start of the season the permanent signings were poor and panic buys. Bolton will be interesting, a club that has found a purpose on the pitch, whilst we are just sitting on long term contracts with no culpability.

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All the loanees that play in a forward role have been poor as have most of the permanent players couldn't score in a brothel at the minute January window can't come soon enough Coley has to get it right then or we could be in for a real scrap at the bottom.

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We aren’t a million miles away based on today.
Four golden chances, McConville, Maguire, Finley and Clicker.
Not one on target

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Enjoy Clicker while you can. My understanding is he’s in his last year and January is our only window before he’s then available on a free.

Can’t see Holt sanctioning more 3 year deals given the return from the two 3 year deals offered last year and the 2 year deals for the new signings this year.

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Rotherham should have been out of sight at half time.

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Clickers already said he won’t sign.
He didn’t want to stay this year but club activated option.
Should have sold him in Summer.
No point selling in Jan for low ££.
Might as well keep and lose on free.
He’s not a game changer in my view.

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Trouble is we have had golden chances in most games this month and taken none.:eek:

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But they weren't - maybe their finishing is not too far ahead of ours. Wasn't there but listening to the radio coverage it sounded like we put up a decent performance & were unlucky to come away with nothing.
Ok, we're going through a sticky patch - we do so most seasons at some point - but I'm certain we can come through it as we have before, keep the faith

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Don't be fooled Rotherham were playing on a different level to us.

To be fair I would have expected this given the disparity in resources available to each club. At the end of the day we are always going to be up against majority of sides L1.

Cant fault the effort today though and they nearly pulled off a salvage job. Still hopeful we'll survive.

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Play somebody who wants to be at the club drop him get rid in January if anyone wants him.

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I must have watched a different game if Rotherham were on a different level to us. There was nothing in the game at all and as is often the case at this level, a set play ultimately decided the game.
I think Rotherham typify this league, no one is great but a lot of teams are just okay. The fact they sit in the top 6 alongside Blackpool, Coventry, Wycombe and Ipswich shows that this league just isn’t great this season.
We could have got something at the death and I actually thought second half we played quite well but without ever truly looking like scoring a goal.
2 massive league games coming up now, lets hope we find our scoring touch again.

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Agree with majority of that but I’d say we had 4 golden chances where if any of those were on target they’d likely result in a goal.
We stretched them last 15 minutes drawing defenders wide etc.
Need better decision making and more composure

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Need 2 decent strikers in the window wether Andy Holt sanctions this or Coley persuading some decent strikers here is the wish we would all like.

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And I ask again, using the tactics employed yesterday , who is going to score ?.
Strikers and adventurous midfielders score goals and ,in my humble opinion, the Reds don't have anyone of this ilk in their ranks at this present time !.

Goals = win matches = potential promotion. No GOALS = lose matches = definite relegation !. These words from Sir Bobby Robson still keep coming back to haunt me !

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what we wish for and what we get are two separate things. most pre season wished for us to have our own players and not loanees. we got our wish and we,ve seen where it turned out. for me we have an average division 2 side playing in division 1 and coley will need a lot of luck in january to get the side up for a battle that its going to be.

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Will need more than luck i think, 1 up front at home, cant see that winning us many games.

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We may have been sat close together Simpson and not known it ....... I was there as a guest of Rotherham with a few friends.
Interesting observation to me was the back page of the programme and the size of the respective squads. Ours massive compared to theirs.
So it begs the questions
Quality over quality does it work ?
No.
Has our recruitment been good ?
No
Who is responsible for that ? Manager, coaches, scouts, owner ?
Has to be Coley.
What are the reasons ?
Budget, the club itself unable to attract ?

We're in a real battle.
Bolton I nervously predict will get out of their dilemma and watch for a big push in the January market subject to where they are.

Are there worse sides than us at the moment ? Yes ......... but if you can't score you can't win.

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Maybe it isn't public knowledge but seeing as the topic has been opened up for discussion all EFL clubs were circulated by the Club in the transfer window that Clark was available for transfer. What in the old days was called placed on the transfer list.
A deal never materialised.
I suspect due to the fee.
I therefore can assume that anyone interested will wait until the end of season and get him for nothing.
Interesting point about playing him or dropping him.
Do you cut off your nose to spite your face drop him and play someone who is committed to the club long term ?
All I can say to that if you have ever met a player as dedicated to his game, and as dedicated to the club that holds his registration other than Clark .......... I cant think of one.
Thoughts ?

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That should have said quantity over quality ..........

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I think it is a daft argument as for the majority of the club's existence most players have not been contracted past the end of the season, and the best players need to play or we go down.

We are punching above our weight and can't afford the new players some fans are going on about.

Contracts work both ways though, it is risky waiting for a free transfer.

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Don’t understand your last point my friend.
Risky for the player ?
What choice has he got ?
Whilst under contract it is for the club to decide his future by either extending his contract or accepting an offer from another club.
Clearly any proposed terms offered were not enough.
If Clark does indeed become a free agent at the end of the season then there is no risk.
I’m sure there will be a few suitors.

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can’t argue about Clarks commitment, he clearly loves playing football and despite probably wanting a move in the summer; I don’t think he is sitting around sulking.
Free transfer has pros and cons, possibly more wage if club not spent on transfer fee, HOWEVER teams are likely to play a player costing £500k than a freebie etc.

RE; squad size - keep in mind the number of those players that have squad numbers and aren’t part of first team.
My biggest concern over recruitment was signing Bursik knowing full well he’d be called up for international duty. Clearly he hasn’t done enough to warrant Dimi being dropped.
Baker-Richardson was the strong powerful striker we needed (Zanzala.2)
Diallo looks shrewd enough for league football. Both frustratingly injured.
Opoku and Alese seem like solid signings. I have no issues with Pritchard, Charles, Bishop or even Edwards in the squad.
Disappointed in LKS, ZFA and Simpson. Also Maguire and Barclay although thought both were okay yesterday.

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Exactly your point Josh.
Bit ridiculous to go on about squad size given quite a lot of our u23s are included in that list. Whereas Rotherham don’t include theirs.
Now the argument around whether the u23 squad is beneficial is a whole other topic but don’t base the whole squad size on what was on the back of yesterdays programme.
Also seen as there are no longer ‘emergency loans’ clubs like ourselves have to include a bigger squad than we had 2/3 years ago.

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To add to this. As Bolton look to be getting another -12 this week I really don’t see how they get out of their current situation.

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This is maybe how Bolton will get themselves out of their situation. Another win next Saturday and they be top of that form chart!

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Quantity rather than quality I agree doesn't in most cases work, recruitment has always been difficult at Stanley regardless of who the manager is budget lack of training facilities in the past regarded in a lot of quarters as tin pot that thankfully has been radically changed for the better, but I do feel this season the club have signed players who are struggling to be league 2 standard never mind league 1. How many you should honestly ask yourself,s is how many of our players not loans would get in any other league 1 side. As for the goals return after watching Stanley since the first game back in the day these players can't even work the keeper they constantly miss the target some serious work on the "training pitch" needed.

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Still think our problems are in goal and at centre half, can’t help but think that age has caught up with Hughes.

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Disagree mate.
Yes I think the keeper is a worry but centre halves in Opoku and Sykes can step in ................................................ up front we've little to start with and no back up.
Up front is our problem massively.

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is opoku only here till jan as we know?

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Yes he is Cashy, hoping we try & extend his loan till the end of the season

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Striker options Zanzala can't keep on his feet hence the nickname slippers, Simmonds not seen enough of him, Bishop non league standard and is starting to show, Scott only young won't be starting any time soon, Baker Richardson looked ok but is he injury prone?, Charles not a striker IMHO too easily dispossessed non league standard again, Simpson written off by fans on this forum not seen enough of him should be better than non league standard coming from Preston but will he be played doubt it that I,m afraid are our options upfront personally don't think they are anywhere near good enough.

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Agree, but to be frank, I think we are light all over, it’s just varying degrees. The promotion team beats this one in a game 7 times out of 10.

My concern is the build up of team costs that don’t contribute to the bench strength, never mind the first 11.

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Simmonds has an awful attitude. Told Coley he should be a first team regular. No chance.
Bishop will come good. Lacks agility but you can train that, he has the instinct.
Scott - I'm a big fan of his but hasn't progressed as much as we would of liked.
Charles - similar to Kayden, bags of pace but needs to learn when to use it. also needs to be playing with a second striker, would of been good playing off Billy.
Simpson - seen him a fair few times and for a lad of his size he doesn't use it well. Doesn't attack the ball, too similar to Connor Hall in my opinion, makes a few good runs but nothing that has an impact on game.

Zanzala - so frustrating. Really thought this season he'd take his chance to be main striker but too often makes same mistakes. Not learning from them?
Is he torn between having strength and pace. Has neither at moment.

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If he is torn between having strength and pace maybe he should watch a bit of Drogba on YouTube.

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Given the amount of time he spends sat on his “Boris”, I think we should throw in balance at the top of that list !

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on the whole a summation I would agree with, as you say much more was expected from Offrande this season but maybe out expectations were overlooking the trauma the family & him had too overcome on their escape from the Congo, maybe our expectations failed to account for this background and we may need to give him more time to settle but anyway I feel his presence & runs does put pressure on defenders

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I’m not making light of the family situation but with respect the lad has been a professional footballer since 2015.
He’s had more than enough time and the truth is he’s not anywhere near good enough at this standard.

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have to agree the lad is nowhere near div1 level to me.

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I might have said that matt crooks was not anywhere near good enough at this standard he's now aged 25, his been a revelation since he departed, zanzala is still only 23, while I agree he is not the goal getter we desire at this time, he should not be dismissed he could yet develop into a future star,

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matt crooks was played as striker when he came to us, and not the best, J.C. moved him to midfield and he improved in leaps and bounds imho.

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Maybe Ozzy is going to be a world class Goalkeeper?

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now-now Josh keep your feet on the ground

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Would need to work on his diving!

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especially when the manager is loathed to change the side win, lose or draw. if you do not attend paint trophy or whatever its called nowadays you will never see some of the squad play.