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1-1 terrible mistake by Bursik for thier equaliser should have stopped on his line.

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Not playing too bad bit short up front if still drawing at 60 to 65 minutes maybe throw Simpson on purely for his hieght and maybe push for a starting birth.

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You were saying . . . . .

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Losing 2-1

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764 Stanley fans

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More than half the gate!
Disappointing result for the 764.

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Finished 2-1 ��

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Out league to concentrate on have to say though we were toothless upfront yet again can,t understand not bringing any subs on at all but shove Shykes up when we had a giant on the bench baffling maybe a blessing in disguise no distractions from the relegation fight now.

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Not good at all tonight

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Unlucky lads but maybe we can now get our feet on the ground, go back to basics & concentrate on our bread & butter games to make sure we stay up

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Total shots = 20
On target = 2

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Disagree,
Last chance of success and extra income wasted against a lesser league 2 side



I didn't attend the game but a Chap that did was astonished Coleman didn't make any substitutions as it was clear in the 2nd half some of the Stanley players were both mentally and physically fatigued

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"Now is the winter of our discontent"
:swear8:

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And yet.... ' If Winter comes can Spring be far behind '
Never despair Lord S !... To quote YAZZ ... ' The only way is up !! '.

We'll both be bard at this rate !... 😎

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No pride, no passion, no belief, no commitment.
Pritchard and Hughes only ones who can take some credit in their performance.
Sykes absolutely abysmal, distribution was horrendous.
Finley, Johnson and Charles must have thought the ball was a babies head given how soft they passed it.
Alese looked petrified to get forward. Pritchard played well but had no help from Aji making forward runs.
Clicker needs to realise you don’t get a goal for beating 3 men and ending up near the corner flag, but you do by putting the ball in the net. He also needs to remember his left foot is worse than his right for shooting. Another game where we need him to create a spark and nothing.
Zanzala looks like Bambi on ice. Unless the ball is in front of him he seems to have no idea what to do.

Simpson must be even more dreadful than I thought.
Coley got subs bench wrong tonight. As he did Saturday.
No Carvalho or Sousa. Yet 3 centre midfielders.

First time all season the thought of not being good enough has crossed my mind.
We should be good enough. But can we be?

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Whilst I disagree with the whole ‘concentrate’ on league statement people seem to love when getting knocked out of a cup competition ; the reality is that being in League 1 instead of 2 will generate more income than a day out at Wembley.

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Correct

But it’s not one or the other, we can do both. Plenty of teams have reached the EFL trophy final and not been relegated.

Bad recruitment in the summer and a lack of cup runs In the past 2 years are hampering progress this season; tonight was a good opportunity wasted.

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Doesn't matter whose on the bench if you choose not to use them might as well just turn up with 11 beaten by thier reserve side.

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Maybe. But £50,000 from beating Salford would have been handy.

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Team performance last night,
Berzick 6 mistake for goal,
Johnson 6 not up to usual standard,
Sykes 4 fault for goal distribution awful young needs a break,
Hughes 7 played well distribution good,
Alese 5 never a full back put him in for Sykes,
Clarke 5 poor trying to take on too many no decent crosses all night,
Finley 6 scored spoilt his game getting caught up in spats lucky to stay on pitch after poke in players eye,
Conneely 6 tried to move ball quickly faded knocked off ball to easily as game wore on,
Pritchard 7 Played quite well good delivering of balls forward nobody on the end of them,
Zanzala 4 very poor less said the better,
Charles 4 also poor ball like a ping-pong at his feet not his night.,
Bench might as well not got stripped for the game,
Management team 4 no tactics no use of subs left the competition meekly.

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Couldn’t agree more, other than I gave the curry and rice a 9.

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i would give the management team ZERO mark, not making a substitution when after first 20 mins we were not at races is pathetic to me, also the nearest we came to an eqalizer, was a free kick just out of the area, when |Bursik came way down field to take it, what does that say about our so called strikers? ok bursik cocked up for there goal, but at least the lad tried to get a result, how many times was the ball up front with a shot on? how many times did we pass instead and the chance was missed?

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Cashy Bursik shouldn't be up there taking a free kick were is the leadership on the pitch or on the touchline could go wrong and lead straight to a goal in our net worst thing I,ve seen in a while, as well as this team that seems to run out of ideas and enthusiasm around about 25 minutes into a game something needs to be done about forward options as ours are rank at the moment some of the worst I,ve ever seen watching Stanley.

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What substitution would you have made Cashy?

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Fully agree with your first sentiment StanleyJosh.
However, I think the initial euphoria of reaching the heights of L1 is already starting to wane, reflected by the slowly falling attendances.
I know many supporters regard this competition as a tin-pot trophy but, let's be honest, this was probably our one & only chance of appearing on the hallowed turf of Wembley.
I don't know what the finalist's receive for reaching Wembley but I do know that half of Accrington would have turned out, not to mention the many exiles who still have affection for their home town team.
We don't follow football to generate income for the club, we follow it because we crave our day in the sun.
Success is the only guarantee of wealth in any sphere, failure the fastest route to penury.
If this bad run continues, watch the income disappear faster than you can say 'Bob's Your Uncle!'

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i dont know who the subs were, but to be honest i would have took off Finley though he scored he was very poor again, i would have put a couple of players on on the hour, there is NO plan B, doubt if they even know what that is.

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You don't know who the subs were? C'mon Cashy, how poor does that sound.

Savin, Rodgers, Maguire, Barclay, LKS, Diallo, Simpson.

With that bench I would not have made 1 change either.

If Carvalho/Sousa was on bench, I would have taken off Ozzy, and put one of those on. Pushed Sykes up top to make a nuisance of himself, and dropped Pritchard into the middle to pick up the second ball.

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i have no idea how it sounds and care even less, am pretty deaf so never heard announcement, ozzy woulda been the other un i removed.so not a great deal on bench but thats Super Johnny Coleman for yeh.

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Keeping in mind we are missing Billy, Sean and Courtney....

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Does anyone know why Sousa does not get a look in as an impact player?

I can only remember seeing him twice and both times he kinda turned the game (Stevenage 3-2 and Fleetwood in the tin pot cup).

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Could have pushed Alese into midfield has good feet isn,t a left back could have brought Maguire on who has a good left peg, as for forwards someone out of the crowd couldn't have been much worse.

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The first two, yes.
But CB-R only made 2 appearance so we’re hardly missing him and, from two games, can’t say he’d even be Stanley’s saviour.

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I wasn't there last night, but amazed that there's a suggestion that Finley be subbed. He must have had a nightmare.....Even at his worst he's still our best player? no?

Looking at the league table, we've scored two more goals than Wycombe this season. Does that represent a forward crisis? From the matches I've seen I'd say Bishop + Charles are reasonably effective, although in common with all other players, their shooting is crap. We are creating loads of chances - enough to see us in the top half of the table - having good possession and the defence is not getting torn apart.

It's just a case of keeping the faith and not panicking.... and maybe a few extra hours trying to hit a barn door from 10-20 yards.

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Im a big Finley fan, but he aint been up to the mark last few games,

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'It's just a case of keeping the faith and not panicking.... and maybe a few extra hours trying to hit a barn door from 10-20 yards.'

How about a couple of days on the wobble board for Zanzala. I'd make him sleep standing up. Give his muscles something to remember.

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If you think that Finley is our best player even at his worse then "Lord" have mercy on us all.

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Reference to Lord D .....
“It's just a case of keeping the faith and not panicking.... and maybe a few extra hours trying to hit a barn door from 10-20 yards.”

I have every confidence in all our strikers hitting a barn door. What separates teams at this level is hitting “a cows arse”.

Time for Coley to invest in more banjos!

Frankly, poor recruitment was called out by many on here before the start of the season. Too many contract favours in lieu of proper scouting for punts which is usually our strength.

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I know 4 promotions
Ain’t it brilliant

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Terrible intit!:130:

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Just Awful!

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Let’s name 3 CM subs but push an inexperienced CB into the middle.

Are we playing Fifa or professional football?

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it certainly is no doubt willie, but everyone has a level, though thats hard for some to grasp.

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What happened yesterday has gone, we cant bring it back, but we can look forward to the next game, onwards and upwards.

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There’s been 5 manager of the months this season for League 1...... Coley one out of 23 possible to win one of em

Pretty sure Kenny Jackett, Paul Lambert, Larry Grayson are quite experienced Football League managers. All licking their wounds after Coley took the points off em

Easy to be critical when it goes wrong. Forum dead when we win

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its also easy to kiss ass,

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You can’t kiss arse on here mate. I’ve already told you he doesn’t go on it never has. I also reminded you that his brother no longer comes on either because of the lack of respect

You’re old school.

Surely you subscribe to the mantra “don’t type anything you wouldn’t say to his face? “

This is a man that dragged this club from the pub leagues to playing Sunderland on TV and 2 games from Wembley. This is a guy that bleeds red and white. This is a guy responsible for all the best moments following the reds over the last 20 years. You remember what it was like before Coleman? Dog****, pub leagues, playing teams with 50 supporters....

Criticise his selection etc by all means. But the disrespectful “football genius eh” “the messiah” is out of order. This is the greatest period Accy Stanley have ever had. He’s our greatest asset and you’ll prob only realise that when he’s gone

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no one i know knocks what he has acheived, that would be disrespectful, also i did not critisise selection i critisise not using any subs when we are doing nothing. the football genius is sung every match, i know quite a few who that certainly tickles.:rolleyes: praise is earned as far as im concerned, not just given out, i certainly dont expect him or any manager to get us even higher, but common sense i do expect,

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Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour in Terry Jones’ memory! ;)

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100% right my friend. However you can’t keep unearthing diamonds (I use the word carefully) and there will always come a time to invest.
Next season if we survive is going to be an even bigger job for Coley because I can’t see Clark Johnson or Sykes remaining for instance.
But hey you have fans who say que sera sera. Great whatever makes you happy. Nice pitch nice corporate facilities but reducing crowds and no investment in the team. Lost for words. Losing to Salford reserves was the icing on the cake.

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I thought the icing on the cake was the season Stanley lost to Guiseley in the Cup:rolleyes:

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I think the icing on the cake was Bambwr Bridge drubbing

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I’m talking about the here and now.

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Difficult to point fingers from 5000 miles away and having to judge by listening to all these opinion so!! #1 Coley is here by merit, 100 per cent, #2 players can have off days but there's never an excuse not to be giving 100 per cent which appears to be the problem with Stanley of late, #3 the best way to remind a player who doesn't give everything is to sit him on the bench, #4 A captains job is to bollock his team mates in to raising their game, hope this is the case. #5 Trust Coley to get us through this rubbish patch.

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Plenty of clubs that have invested in players, Twenty Eight, and it all turned to ****.

Got to invest in the infrastructure when times are good, cos you can’t do it when times are bad. If andy holt invests more in players it’s just going to push up a wage bill that even now doesn’t get covered by regular income.

May I remind you that we are still a tiny club and that will never change. We will not stay in league one forever and we couldn’t live in the championship. If we get back to league two or the conf and these years have massively improved the ground, have given us a solid financial base and given the fans many seasons to remember it’s all you can ask.

Sadly, that’s the reality. It’s also a reality that we are doing ok, and generally holding our own in league one. No need to change that much, let alone panic.

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Agree 100%

But that shouldn’t mean we are happy with losing to a lesser league 2 club in a competition that has the potential to bring in additional income

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Doubt if anyone is happy about it, Dav. Just that there’s not much can be done about it. Losing to lower league teams is a fact of life in cup competitions isn’t it?

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I can remember 1 cold Tuesday night before the Holt era playing Hartlepool infront of just over 900 people including away fans ground dropping to bits toilets not fit for purpose team budget a lot less than now we were on the slide to oblivion and extinction without Mr., Holt's takeover and wise IMHO of money investment in both ground and playing budget we have gone from strength to strength. If we stay up this season great achievement if not we are far better financially to avoid a slip down to the National leagues and even worse oblivion, I know which approach financially I prefer.

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true cashy. john coleman might have learned many things in his life in football but making substitutions is something he has never learned. its got to be a standing joke for those around me when the clock reaches a eighty five minuit mark. you know thats its subs time. unless we have an injury it very rarely happens before this. he admits he does not like making subs but its been part of the game for years now.

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As even the great Jurgen Klopp has discovered to his benefit after many years of insisting that the eleven players starting a match should be on the field at it's ending !.

His subtle use of changing players and formations to match the needs of a game is fascinating to watch. Is it not possible that other Managers, perhaps of lesser stature,
might benefit from following his example ?.

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No isn’t the time to get on the managers back or the players back , we’re Accrington not Real Madrid we will have good runs an bad runs put we will support our club throughout. We haven’t realised the huge void McConville leaves in this side , in my opinion he’s pivotal to everything on and off the pitch an without him available me have suffered massively. We’re desperately lacking goals an we’re conceding sloppy goals , both issues am sure the manager is trying to resolve. Keep the faith.

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A timely Battle-cry Pidge !... and a salutary reminder of why we're all here in the first place..

KEEP THE FAITH !. 😎

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[QUOTE=pidge;1236126] We haven’t realised the huge void McConville leaves in this side , in my opinion he’s pivotal to everything on and off the pitch an without him available me have suffered massively.
seems that way. like when conneely isn,t in the side. like a few more the latter is not my favourite but we do play better with him in the side. football is not putting your best 11 out but playing an 11 that all fit into a plan.