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VALAIRIAN 01-02-2020 07:04

Billy the Kids last stand....Orinoco falls
 
Or, to anybody else... Stanley-v-Wombles :)

First match thread I have started years and am hoping it has a happy ending :)

Be loud and proud in the stands, the lads on the picth will do us and Billy proud :)

:) :) :)

VALAIRIAN 01-02-2020 10:34

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Same XI, I would think - signing cannot play??

Unless Sam is fit, then he might come into midfield....

:)

yonmon 01-02-2020 11:42

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1236636)
Same XI, I would think - signing cannot play??

Unless Sam is fit, then he might come into midfield....

:)

A bit windy today !.. Not you Joe, the weather !!.

Could it make playing football a bit of a lottery ?, if so the side making the fewest mistakes usually wins !..

Hope everyone says au revoir to Billy in a BIG BIG BIG Way !.. see you there !.

Kiwi John 01-02-2020 14:15

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Yesssss...jc !!! 1-0

Kiwi John 01-02-2020 14:22

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2-0 !!!!! Dion.

Kiwi John 01-02-2020 15:00

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When was the last time we were 2 up at the turn????

Kiwi John 01-02-2020 15:13

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Oh no Joe :(

Kiwi John 01-02-2020 15:31

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^$%!@$%%#%^%%!!$....here we go, chewing fingernails time.

Kiwi John 01-02-2020 16:00

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Good onya STANLEY...was thru the fingernails and starting on the flesh.

Exile on Spencer St 01-02-2020 16:04

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Originally Posted by Kiwi John (Post 1236656)
Good onya STANLEY...was thru the fingernails and starting on the flesh.

You’ve got some flesh left? :eek:
We’ll done, Stanley:)

cashman 01-02-2020 16:29

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stanley played very well i thought until the useless ref ruined a good match. it sure never looked simulation to any of us, also by half time we had 1 booked, and they 0 when stanley should at the very least had 2 penalties, a foul on jordan was right in front of us a definate yellow, never even spoke to the guy, this clown was in the kettle league easily.

accybeme 01-02-2020 16:47

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would like to see a var on the Prichard sending off, from where I sat it looked like penalty

chevyfire 01-02-2020 17:40

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Vital 3 points secured. Kee tribute was emotional and fitting.
Felt we where very good/better side first half. Wimbledon came back at us second half. Then we defended stiocally all over the pitch to see out win when down to 10 men.
Special mentions for Clark both creatively and his hard work defensively. Connelly who has found form recently (Barclay playing maybe helpful in this) and did some good interceptions. Defence overall did well under pressure. Maybe bursik could have done better for there goal with a stronger hand?
Proud of the Clayton end particularly the ones of us that created the more or less constant atmosphere. I believe when we do we are the 12 th player and roar the Stanley boys on to victory!


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cashman 01-02-2020 17:45

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Just listened to J.C.S after match, am glad to hear its not just us, bemoaning the clown that was supposed to officiate the game, thing is we will lose another player banned, the ref will have sod all done to him for what was a pathetic display,

VALAIRIAN 01-02-2020 18:10

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1236664)
Just listened to J.C.S after match, am glad to hear its not just us, bemoaning the clown that was supposed to officiate the game, thing is we will lose another player banned, the ref will have sod all done to him for what was a pathetic display,

The plus point of Pritchard being banned is Bobby is a good replacement :)

:) :) :)

cashman 01-02-2020 18:31

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1236665)
The plus point of Pritchard being banned is Bobby is a good replacement :)

:) :) :)

we sure hope mate recall pierro wasnt the same when he returned.

choirboy 01-02-2020 21:29

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What an absolutely BRILLIANT show of appreciation today for a TRUE STANLEY LEGEND..............:worthy::worthy::worthy:

Number 29... our BILLY KEE.
:jimbo::jimbo::jimbo:

In a highly charged and emotional WHAM Stadium the Stanley Faithful showered Billy with so much LOVE and BEST WISHES for the future. He has been a true hero for The Reds and is appreciated by so many of his team mates both past and present for his role in their development and the continuation of the Accrington Stanley Story.......:alright:

Thanks BILLY for all you have done for our club and what you have done for your team mates and for the pleasure that you have given us with your great goals and heroic play!:wub8::wub8::wub8:

"Billy's Day" certainly seemed to have charged the team up for today's important match v
Wimbledon....a real 'six Pointer'.:alright:
From the kick off the Stanley boys were 'right on it' and set off like a train playing slick, attacking football and closing down our opponents from the front to the heart of our defence. The early and fully deserved goal came on 14 minutes from Jordan Clarke after a great move and a curling low cross from the impressive Joe Pritchard. Stanley continued to totally dominate the Dons and scored, what for me was 'The Goal of the Season'..... (so far). The first phase of the build up to the goal caused the Dons defence to lose their shape and the second phase and goal was just scintillating! The ball was cleverly nicked, played out wide and then laid back to an advancing Hughes who clipped the most delightful pass with the outside of his foot wide to the right. Callum Johnson had been getting forward really well and once again he curled a super cross in to the centre where Dion Charles, on the edge of the eighteen yard line, seemed to just power the ball into the top corner of the net with what looked to me like a superb over the shoulder kick. (I am really looking forward to seeing it on the TV tonight!)
:theband:
Stanley were well on top and in total control with probably the best period of play from them this season.:s_gupjump:s_gupjump:alright:
The referee harshly booked Pritchard after a Dons player made a lot out of a physical coming together in midfield. The free kick could have been awarded either way from my point of view or not even at all! This Yellow Card had consequences later in the match!:confused::confused:
Stanley also had a couple of good shouts for penalties too.
Half time came and the Stanley players and fans were buzzing about the great 46 minutes of football we had seen!
The second half began as the first half finished with Stanley well on top and continuing with the slick football. On fifty five minutes Joe Pritchard advanced into the Dons penalty box and was clearly fouled for what was a 'Stone Wall Penalty'.
Incredibly the Referee, in his wisdom, deemed that Pritchard had dived and gave him a second yellow card ...this time for 'SIMULATION'.:dflam::bigglasse:bigglasse:bigglasse
This changed the match to a degree and allowed Wimbledon to have more possession and they certainly seemed to build more dangerously from their right wing where they were developing a useful series of overlaps. The inevitable goal came form some sustained pressure from the Dons but Coley made a good substitution in bringing on 'fresh legs' at left back in the form of Alese for Maguire who had played really well. He also brought on Zanzala to try and keep the ball upfield and to cause problems for the Dons defence.:thumbsup:
Stanley, with the constant support of the Ultras, very effectively played out the remainder of the match for a fully deserved and very important three points!

On the way home in the car we listened to John Coleman's interview on Radio Lancashire and he was calmly 'apoplectic' about the referees decisions regarding Pritchard's two yellow cards and about some of the poor refereeing decisions Stanley have suffered this season.:dflam::dflam::dflam:
I fully agree with John, for example two weeks ago versus Sarfend, Pritchard was defending an attacking run and was attending a Sarfend player who had pushed the ball too far which was going out harmlessly for a Stanley goal kick. The forward deviated his run into Pritchard and also flicked his left leg out into Pritchard's feet and simulated a dive, earning the award of a penalty for his team. Now that was real SIMULATION and cheating!
:s_boom:
All John Coleman wants is consistency from the referees and of course the correct application of the rules!:idunno::idunno:
There was some great performances throughout our team today and the effort was illustrated totally in front of us in the Clayton End when, at the final whistle, Jordan Clarke doubled up as if winded by a Mike Tyson punch to the stomach! 100% effort from all the boys today and a superb outcome!
Well done The Reds! it has certainly been an eventful day but we gave Billy a good send off and got the very important three points!
:theband::wave8::signbeer::drink:

ON STANLEY ON
KEEP THE FAITH

Lord Didsbury 01-02-2020 21:33

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Inconclusive on telly whether there was any contact, but a booking was ridiculously harsh. It changed the game.

Thought we played very well today. Charles, Clark and Hughes being the pick of the bunch. I really do not rate Diallo on today’s game.

andyd 02-02-2020 07:16

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1236667)
we sure hope mate recall pierro wasnt the same when he returned.

Personally think if he is selected Bobby Grant,s best position is the Finley role just behind strikers if Pritchard doesn't appeal and is missing give Sousa a start and Clicker out on the left.

VALAIRIAN 02-02-2020 07:35

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Some very good performances in this game :)

Link up play down the right was a threat all game, Callum and Jordan back to their best :)

Pritchard was a menace all game – well for 55 minutes!!

Seamus was very, very good in midfield – real Captains performance :)

Defence were solid and Dion – at one point – was actually on fire :D

A game, fit for the occasion, Billy wpould have been proud :)

This result will be the springboard, a 3rd season in League one beckons, add that to the 12 in League 2 and who would have believed it :eek: :eek:



:wave8: :theband: 15 YEARS IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE, 15 YEARS IN THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE ETC. ETC. :theband: :wave8:

Exile on Spencer St 02-02-2020 08:49

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That’s one of the least ‘inconclusive’ penalty shouts I’ve seen for some time.
Appalling refereeing.
Is he related to Kettle?

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...-afc-wimbledon

yonmon 02-02-2020 08:51

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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1236686)
Inconclusive on telly whether there was any contact, but a booking was ridiculously harsh. It changed the game.

Thought we played very well today. Charles, Clark and Hughes being the pick of the bunch. I really do not rate Diallo on today’s game.




True !.. Just another performance which suggests that he is unlikely to go far in his chosen profession ??.

Exile on Spencer St 02-02-2020 09:08

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1236693)
That’s one of the least ‘inconclusive’ penalty shouts I’ve seen for some time.
Appalling refereeing.
Is he related to Kettle?

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...-afc-wimbledon

And if you need ‘evidence’, just watch Wimbledon’s No.39 after the incident. Is that the behaviour of a player who thinks he was conned by a ‘diver’, or one who knows he tripped Pritchard and thinks he’d better make himself scarce?

Twenty Eight 02-02-2020 10:09

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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1236688)
Personally think if he is selected Bobby Grant,s best position is the Finley role just behind strikers if Pritchard doesn't appeal and is missing give Sousa a start and Clicker out on the left.

You can’t appeal a yellow card.

cashman 02-02-2020 10:10

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no arguement about MoM, though personally i would have picked Hughes yesterday thought he was top drawer.

andyd 02-02-2020 10:35

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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1236697)
You can’t appeal a yellow card.

Your right but a break next weekend allows new players to settle in before the run in, 15 more points needed IMHO to be sure of league 1 football next season.

cashman 02-02-2020 11:50

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well watched pritchards fall 5/6 times and no way to me it looked like a dive,

AccyMad 02-02-2020 12:48

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1236700)
well watched pritchards fall 5/6 times and no way to me it looked like a dive,

I think everyone in the ground, except the man in the middle, could see it was a penalty - even the gentlemen from Wimbledon's press behind us said they fully expected one to be given & were as flummoxed as us by the decision

yonmon 02-02-2020 13:24

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1236700)
well watched pritchards fall 5/6 times and no way to me it looked like a dive,

My built-in VAR.. ( Which is seldom wrong ?) suggested exactly the same !.

Wimbledon's No 39 made definite contact from behind .. it was a foul.. it should have resulted in a penalty ... BUT ?.

One can readily understand JC's frustrations and anger at yet another individual who was obviously too inexperienced to Referee a League 1 match in the first place , but ended up at The Wham yesterday afternoon.:cool::confused:

Exile on Spencer St 04-02-2020 17:08

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Here’s a ref that must be ready for a move to League 1.:rolleyes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51360753

cashman 04-02-2020 18:42

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Everyone can make mistakes, but the Reffing standard has really gone down this last 20 years, cannot understand why?

KiTChener 04-02-2020 20:03

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1236748)
Everyone can make mistakes, but the Reffing standard has really gone down this last 20 years, cannot understand why?

Simple, Cashy, no-one wants the job!

I watch my under twelves grandson play on Saturday & Sunday mornings, the refs are normally 16-18yr olds, they are still learning their trade, but they don’t half get criticised from some of the dads! (Mainly justified, but, do they, at that age, have decent training, or are they just expected to ‘learn on the job’)?

Lord Didsbury 04-02-2020 21:27

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Standards haven’t gone down, you’ve just older and more cantankerous I’d bet?

Unquestionably linesman standards have improved.

I’m pretty sure there’s some research showing ref standards have improved. Not that there’s much point trying to find and post this evidence, when you lot would prefer a few dodgy anecdotes to statistics.

cashman 05-02-2020 07:31

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possibly but your more senile i would bet,

Lord Didsbury 05-02-2020 08:42

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https://www.the-ra.org/news/the-ridi...uld-you-bother

Lord Didsbury 05-02-2020 08:45

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Have a read Cashy, and all the other deluded biased ref haters.

cashman 05-02-2020 09:42

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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury (Post 1236755)
Have a read Cashy, and all the other deluded biased ref haters.

not a matter of ref hating at all, theres a conference ref stands with us when he aint got a match, and he would disagree big time with all that bull. i would rather take notice of what he tells us than you,

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2020 12:27

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Please can we keep this on thread, about one of our heros :)

:) :) :)

cashman 05-02-2020 12:39

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1236758)
Please can we keep this on thread, about one of our heros :)

:) :) :)

it was also a match thread was it not?;)

VALAIRIAN 05-02-2020 16:20

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OK Cashy... :)

monkey hanger 07-02-2020 09:40

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1236748)
Everyone can make mistakes, but the Reffing standard has really gone down this last 20 years, cannot understand why?

fast track promotion is one. forget that bull **** from the referees association. still an active referee and the lowest i get paid is 25 quid for running the line for wednesday afternoon college games for a start. promotion is not a long drawn out process either. you can go from level 6 straight to 4 if you pass the fitness test which i managed to do at over 50 and i,ve never been a runner. they have mentors, coaches and county f.a.,s have their own referee centres of excellence. then what do you get is the likes of oldham who was doing conference north games only a few short years ago. when ex north west county players who have reached the great age of 24 and told they are too old to do anything but local football you know you have a problem.

cashman 07-02-2020 10:30

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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1236770)
fast track promotion is one. forget that bull **** from the referees association. still an active referee and the lowest i get paid is 25 quid for running the line for wednesday afternoon college games for a start. promotion is not a long drawn out process either. you can go from level 6 straight to 4 if you pass the fitness test which i managed to do at over 50 and i,ve never been a runner. they have mentors, coaches and county f.a.,s have their own referee centres of excellence. then what do you get is the likes of oldham who was doing conference north games only a few short years ago. when ex north west county players who have reached the great age of 24 and told they are too old to do anything but local football you know you have a problem.

aye but some people reckon they know, when very little is the answer,;)


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