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I'm surprised that no one is interested in this development.

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i am 23, to who and what was said, he was booked in the 61st minute the incident happened in the 23rd if the ref heard anything would he have been booked

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Is it normal for it to take so long for the charges to be made?

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I'm not surprised he is a hothead I was at Charlton when is over reaction led to a lengthy ban, shame because he loses concentration in games at times chasing a revenge tackle or something on those lines, no problems with a hard player as long as it doesn't affect his performance.

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I think people are interested 28, but as has been said elsewhere I think most will be waiting for the full details to come out before commenting on the situation - it could hopefully be just a storm in a teacup

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Absolutely no chance of this going away.

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think the report is a bit vague anyway so its hard to comment on it. just hope that it will come out what he has allegedly said and in what context it was said.

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Rule E3 (1) relates to conduct and states:

“A Participant shall at all times act in the best interests of the game and shall not act in any manner which is improper or brings the game into disrepute or use any one, or a combination of, violent conduct, serious foul play, threatening, abusive, indecent or insulting words or behaviour”.

Rule E3 (2) relates to “aggravated breaches” and states:

A breach of Rule E3 (1) is an “Aggravated Breach” where it includes a reference, whether express or implied, to any one or more of the following :- ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality, religion or belief, gender, gender reassignment, sexual orientation or disability

Something clearly said around the time of Barclay's yellow card.
If accepts charge one match ban and a fine.

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When subject to investigation, yes.

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After reading all that 28, games must be pretty quiet these days??

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8 game ban.

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Don't know what he said or did but that seems a tad harsh, also received a £850 fine & told to attend 'face to face education'

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Called Paul McShane a *****, referencing his Irish background (this is from the FA report and not something that I imply happened)

Interesting that he denied it initially, match officials stated they didn’t hear it. Aside from him later admitting it, if I hadn’t have done, where would the charge have gone....

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Well the word caravan makes his attempt to change the other word pretty pathetic.

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Now you know what he said and his poor attempts to change the reference its quite clear why they've hammered him.
Should have come clean on day one.

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His previous record at Fylde didn't help either.

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It was a game when feelings were running pretty high, not unusual against Dale - not excusing him & yes he should've admitted it at the start but I'm willing to bet there was some provocation which didn't get heard

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way i view it, if yeh got a bad record, yeh can expect nowt else.

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Had that been the case then Sam could have made a complaint or referred to that in his defence as mitigation. He didn't. I like Sam as a fiery competitor but to me he's always got this in him be it verbal or physical.
Take it away from him and he's less effective I guess so the club has to take the rough with the smooth.
Could do with getting the season completed now because if we don't that's a large chunk of early next season he's missing.
Maybe offering Conneely fresh terms would be a good move now.

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Seeing as we have no budget plans for next season I think that isn't an option at the minute when June 30th comes round all out of contract players will be in a kind of limbo if the inadequate EFL doesn't get its act together, as for Finley my thoughts on him have been touched on this forum before his temperament and at times reckless immature behaviour don ,t warrant is talent or lack off to be a first choice IMHO.

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gotta agree with andy, think we are in no position to offer anyone, as are most small clubs.

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Or losing his footing at Charlton last year as a number on here and within the club unsuccessfully floated ( not you before you spring into type).
Accept the point re bite to his game, but there are basic human standards for all.

Maybe social distancing and a face mask 😷 will add to his game going forward.

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No need for that Simpson !

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exactly. if he,d have kept his mouth shut, then really did him in a bad tackle putting him out for the season he,d have been sent off and only got a three match ban. i know lots will disagree with me but it seems that name calling is actually worse than a violent action. much rather someone saying something to me than breaking my leg.

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Hardly just name calling though is it mate ?
Had he said you've got a backside wider than the channel tunnel then everyone laughs it off.
He didn't.

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He,s actually banned for 10 games 2 for collecting 10 yellow cards that is virtually a quarter of a season liability.

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And contracted till 2021 ?

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Not 100% sure but possibly would run concurrently?

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If the EFL bring in a pools panel to decide results, will that also count towards Sam's 10 matches? ;)

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Just had a little look at soccer base. In fairness to Sam his record has improved since Fylde, his first season there suggests 7 appearances in which he collected 3 reds and 4 yellows in the others.
His second season was another 3 reds and 12 yellows. One of the Reds seems to be when celebrating the teams 6th and his 2nd goal v Aldershot in a 7-1 victory!

On a more serious note, not a great look to be lying to a referee in the company of the manager.
Having read the transcript I note he attended the FA to discuss shortly after in early January which is what I heard at the time. I seem to recall him then missing a few games with an “injury” and assumed an accommodation with the FA had been reached, clearly not.

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If only . . . . . .

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I don't recall anyone calling him a liability when he scored the 95th minute winner against Lincoln, yes he made a mistake but let's hope he's learned from it & not start turning on our own players

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No one’s turning on him just stating facts.
Hes needed on the pitch not sat in the stands and being brutally honest he’s let the fans down.
For Simpson’s sake we’ll smooth over Charlton !

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Interesting story on the Beeb, a Leicester Tigers player was banned for 10 weeks, but due to Coronavirus and the lockdown, he won't miss a match! As the season still has 9 games to go, I wonder if Sam will only miss one match next season?

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No chance.
Para 15.1 - completed games.

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Unfortunately not, different rules for Rugby & Football although I don't see why

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to be honest i dont think what he said is racist, many people use that term.:confused:

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Many people are just like Finley then idiots.

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look in the mirror if yeh want one of them.

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Nothing to do with different sports. One ban is for a period (10 weeks) the other is for completed games. That's the difference.

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Mate - thousands of people use defammatory terms which are racist end of. Doesn't mean its acceptable. As a representative of Accrington he has a duty of care and failed miserably. Then lied, then came clean, when the lad he offended was going to attend the hearing.

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its only not acceptable to me cos the beanheads have made it so. i remember Bernard Manning being called racist cos of jokes he told, nothing was further from correct, but the clowns made it so.

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But even so, surely the 10 weeks ban should be for a period of time when games are being played otherwise it's pointless

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I remember bananas being thrown at certain players some time ago is that acceptable.

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I'm sure that would have been the case had they known we were going to face a crisis when it was handed out !
Games were scheduled for the 10 weeks.

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that was never acceptable. but some things are now that have been created by do-gooding dickheads as far as im concerned.

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The ban was issued on 12th March, only two days before the next scheduled game which turned out to be the first to be postponed - it just doesn't seem fair that effectively he receives no punishment for his actions

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On the same topic, I put on my status on Facebook that i was proud to be English on St Georges day and I got a warning that I may be banned from Facebook for 30 days for racism, double standards in my book

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Did you also include an image of the flag of St George ?
Sadly that is now synonymous as an emblem for EDL.

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Only to people with a certain mindset. On both sides.

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Maybe my friend I was just stating the rationale behind Facebook's decision - not my opinion.

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Wasn’t suggesting you were, 28.
“Rationale” is giving it too much credit. It’s just another example of the Woke media’s authoritarianism. Think like we do or we’ll silence or ‘no platform’ you.
Group think, Orwell called it.
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You're far too sensible for this forum Di :D

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Not only the flag of St George it also had a pictureof St George allegedly slaughtering the dragon

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Why thank you kind sir - shame my sensibleness (if that's a word) doesn't always apply in other areas of my life :D

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Ah, that'll be the PETA lot having a hissy then, applying pressure on the book-of-faces knoberators to do something to stop nasty people like you expressing your "Vile hatred & animalist attitudes" ;)

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are we the only country in the world where you are treated or thought of as a racist if you fly your countries national flag. just give up at times i really do.

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thats cos our country has been infiltrated by many dickheads.

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Agree, easiest way to sort this would be to ask his midfield partner who was brought up in Connemara, Gaelic still being spoken routinely.

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hope you do not mean that sam has to get gaelic lessons off seamus to abuse folk. knowing stanleys luck he,ll find the only league ref who is fluent in gaelic.