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What a damn shame :(

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I fear the 2nd of many.

What a shame, I feel SO sorry for the fans, we could have been them a few years ago let's not forget.

Had some great away days at Macc :(

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a damn shame.

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Sad day for Macc. and a sad day for footy :(

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Up there with the favourite away days fantastic club bar pre match with great food and some great fans who you have to feel for, going to be a lot more unless some kind of income streams start to flow.

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its sad for their fans but the club and owner has really asked for the decision being made. bury last season, macclesfield this, which north west club will be the next.

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The headlines this morning are all about Bale who in a week earns more than Macclesfield have been shut down for sums the sad state of what the game and the majority of armchair fans have sunk to.

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a sad day for northern football mainly. doubt many would miss the likes of stevenage, crawley and barnet anywhere in the north of england.

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True MH but I would feel sorry for their fans because I should think they feel the same way about their club as we feel about Stanley and to be honest, during lockdown, I missed watching Stanley more than anything.

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Very good point Andy :)

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Utter disgrace from the football league heyre supposed to be a club and act to protect each other but thats now two clubs theyre responsible for depriving their local comunities of.

I dont see why the FA couldnt do a deal with Askey and Cambell to accept a % of what theyre owed lets face if they refused theyed never get a job in the game again and i.m sure if it was the FA doing the paying the HMRC would do a deal similar to what Southend have proposed to them.

So youre looking at a debt of maybe not much more than 300k with much of it payable over 5 years and in exchange the owner agrees to give up ownership [ he might as well because if its wound up he loses the lot anyway [ if he wants to keep it he needs to write a cheque bloody quick ] i would imagine a club basically debt free and in the NL and available for 300k [ with possibility of paying the FA for it over the same timescale as the deal they do with the HMRC ] Would i imagine put it in reach of a good number of individuals as well as their fans trust.

Yes People who are owed money should get it back but clubs should not be lost to their communities for the sake of half a million quid with the money thats slushing about in the game as a whole.

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in theory you are correct however does that just gives dodgy sharklike owners just another get out clause. the FA will stump up the money then i,ll pay later again. its just back to owners again that should not be miles near of football club never mind owning one. take stanley out of the equasion, clubs in lower leagues have always really lived more or less hand to mouth. however they just rolled on with more or less owned and run by local businessmen. your point about the money in the game is correct. however it aint the fault of spurs and others that macc have gone bust. if they did put a levy on the premier league to bale clubs out then these clubs again could really take advantage of the situation.

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Yes but youre missing the main point which maye i didnt make too clear and any financial help given to a club would be totally dependant on the guilty owner tearing up his ownership and rights to any assets. That way you.ll soon find out which of them are in it for the love of the club and which would see the club go bust and be wound up [ in which case they would lose everything anyway ] rather than take a financial hit [ which in theory if set up right in the first place most would be able to negate by being the owner of a company that went bust ]

But i imagine whats come out today about him taking the **** with the 20k offer to HMRC when he clearly had 1.2 million sat in the bank really would have peed the judge off no end and i.d say if hed offered 200k instead hed probrably have got a deal and still had a club to sell [ there were apparently 3 different possible purchasers but none of them had done enough due dilligence for the judge to consider their offers in any way viable. ] But if Abdul gives himself a good shake he could still hand the club over to one of them and they could then do a deal with the judge effectively getting them the club for a bit less than 500k.

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[QUOTE=NORTHERNSOUL;1244783]Yes but youre missing the main point which maye i didnt make too clear and any financial help given to a club would be totally dependant on the guilty owner tearing up his ownershi

yes, i would go with that one. it may put the chancers off buying a club in the first place. just cannot get my head around why anyone would buy a lower division football club miles from where they live or in another country unless they have some interest in the town or club. always think there is something not quite right behind it all. quicker they are outed and banned the better it will be for lower leagues clubs futures.

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still banging on this morning about gareth bale on the box. got to wonder did macclesfield town ever exist or was it a dream i had. never heard a thing about their finish from the television.

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Don't know how true this story is but in court apparently the owner who has not paid wages, bills or tax offered £20000 off the £500000 owed this a bloke with a personal fortune if he would have offered a reasonable amount Macc would probably be still around shocking if true.

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I wonder what size of club would be 'too big to fail'? As in both the effect on the local/regional economy because so many depend on it for income, and in terms of perceived importance and stature. Or does no club have that status?

If you half a spare half hour, have a listen to this episode of 'The Briefing Room', some interesting stuff on effect of pandemic on footy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000m4qv

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Wigan could easily be the next in line! The receivers are looking for someone to pay £4.5 million for the lot (ground, team and training ground), however if not sold, they will take a 15 point points deduction, whereby the receivers would then require £2 million. They have interested parties but are refusing to do business with them. At this rate, they could easily end up being the next Bury/Macclesfield.

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I think Wigan will but them when the price is right. Athletic don't own the ground lock stock, the Council does have a share and it it multiuse with exhibitions etc.

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The recievers bill is climbing all the time to above a million and counting somebody needs big pockets and a nerve of steel at the moment

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Something on the horizon - hopefully.... :)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54284737


:) :) :)

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A good article in i this morning it goes on about lower league clubs' problems and it uses Stanley as an example of how football clubs are much more than just football and part of the life of smaller towns with clubs going into school, having football clubs for kids during school holidays, helping older people to combat loneliness,collecting food banks etc., etc., etc.

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Ah, bless the MSM.
Pity, but not surprising then, that the same organ continues to push the opinions of catastrophist scientific ‘experts’, trying to up the scare-factor over “cases” (not deaths, hospitalisations, or laboratory confirmed infections), which has helped to cause the problem for lower league clubs in the first place.

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/coro...figures-659865

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Good article: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/e...eration-659631

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Aye the word is now that the recievers have knocked back bids from two perfectly good owners because their bids wernt big enough to be able to settle the recivers bills.

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The bids put in are for around £2 million, which, if accepted would see a further 15 point deduction for the club, hence the reason they are holding out for £4 million plus. Supporters have raised £700k so far to help with the day to day running of the club, but that will last days NOT weeks. The one interested party who had put a £4 million bid in was scared off by social media reports and pulled out!! I really hope they are succesful in staying afloat.

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Good old Gerald up to his tricks again ......... people in football never learn.

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Your right football never and even now not learning hence if they aren't careful the Premiership won't get their Super league it will be the only league.

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Great little club Chorley FC latest to say without crowds or bailout will probably die after the New Year heartbreaking.

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Are you getting the very apt BIG BLOOMER add under your last post Andy

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This Radio 4 programme at 8pm tomorrow (29 Sept) looks interesting:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mzph

'MPs and supporters are calling for an overhaul of the way English football is governed after a series of clubs were hit by financial problems. Bolton wanderers, Wigan Athletic and Charlton have all flirted with financial disaster while Bury FC were expelled from the Football League altogether after problems with creditors. File on 4 hears claims that the root of the problem is the Owners' and Directors' Test used to assess those who want to take control of football clubs'

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That's been a problem for years brought to an abrupt realty due to Covid warnings coming from all quarters of the game now about the imminent collapse of the pryamid hind sight is easy but starting the season without a cast iron guarantee for the return of fans is like a final blow for many.