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Tier levels announced Thursday the North West has the lowest R rate in the country at the moment wether that relates to a lower tier no idea but a lot to be positive about fans will return especially in bigger numbers when the magic jab is rolled out.

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aye but if they include Manchester and districts dont hold yer breath.

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I think personally that there will unfortunately be a lot of tier 3,s but there is light at the end of the tunnel if we aren't in tier 1 or 2 Thursday the return is coming sooner rather than later.

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think yeh phrased that wrong mate?

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I think that it is highly likely that we in Accrington will still be subject to Tier Three restrictions from Thursday onwards. Which means ZERO supporters in the Wham Stadium! :end:
However, will we be able to travel to away matches and watch Stanley play against teams based in Tier One and Tier Two areas?:stupid:

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Away fans not a chance.

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I,m afraid choirboy you are probably right about tier 3, but these tiers will be reviewed every 2 weeks and if we continue in the same downward path hopefully we will go into 2 pretty quickly because tier 3 this time is harsher than before lockdown.

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Doubt if we will be able to go away reckon we will have to remain in area?

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Andy Holt piece in the Times today about the gradual return of fans and the financial impact unfortunately he thinks Stanley will be in a tier 3 area at first but says it's a step in the right direction, he is probably right but if the rate continues to fall maybe in 14 days after we will be moved into 2 so middle of December could be the date.

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a couple of weeks down into tier 2 but back into tier 3 in january. january into march is the worst period of the year anyway for respiratory illness so i honestly cannot see much action happening certainly in the north west and yorkshire.

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Just been on the BBC news website one minister quoting that probably half or more of England will go into tier 3 if that's going to be the case won't be many clubs with fans inside.

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its probably a knocking bet with the thickos that reside in Hyndburn.

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Reading the figures that have been published up to date, Stanley will get zero fans in tier 3, 2,000 fans in tier 2 and 2,500 in tier 1 i.e. up to 50% of ground capacity in tier 1 (to a maximum of 4,000) and up to 50% of ground capacity or 2,000 whichever is the lesser in tier 2. Can't see away fans being allowed unless possibly from the same region.

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No away fans in any tier.

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if any away fan is that determined to see an away game if crowds are back will be able to see the game if its not season ticket holders only. in 65 years plus of watching football i have turned up as a neutral to games where i found on reaching the ground that the game was all ticket. it never took me long to find someone with a spare ticket with the best being stuck in london, went to the millwall v leeds all ticket thugfest and got one off the first bloke i asked.

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exactly. the whole thing was just about giving people hope when there was non previously.

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i still aint got any hope living in Hyndburn, far too many dickheads here.

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It isn't just about Hyndburn they have said Lancashire will be treated as one no discussion with any local leaders government calling the shots based on certain criteria will find out tomorrow fingers crossed for tier 2 not just for football but for everything that we took for granted before, township,s in Lancashire such as Accrington were struggling before any more restrictions upto March could see towns around Lancashire never recovering.

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well as things stand andy hyndburn will drag most of lancashire down its second worse place in the country it said yesterday.

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just being a dickhead is not confined to hyndburn, the rest of the noth west, yorkshire or the north east. all those rallies down in london does not seem to have had extra problems in the south east where you think they would. do think there are bigger underlying issues for the resons for all this.

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Don't think you can necessarily put that down to dickheads as you call them it's a lot of factors come into play depravation and old fashioned housing, who knows but 1 area shouldn't in my opinion drag the rest of Lancashire with it. To me after all being in lockdown together we should all be in the same tier.

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Current trends with COVID show the North West, as a whole, is trending on a downward spiral and in fact, is the one area in England that has the lowest rates compared with the rest of the country. Yes Hyndburn, as a whole, does not help matters, but, in context, it is just a blip throughout the region.

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So in theory we should be put in a favourable tier London screaming from the rooftops that they need to be in a lower tier to help save the nation's economy bollocks they have give us not a moment's thought before as they enjoyed all the booms and property millionaires made, that's where all the true dickheads reside and unfortunately make all the decisions that affect us all.

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well aware of that but this is accyweb;)

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this is the most annoying aspect of the tiers. having to join one because of somewhere else miles away where you never visit. i,m in the opposite field where we are lumped with bradford 10 miles away without their percentage of cases. only 4 miles from lancashire and 5 from north yorkshire so it does not make sense.

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Tier 3 I follow it is then

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Are you Boris's replacement for Cummings ? Hahaha ! You're right but announcements not made yet.

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it has now 3 it is. think everyone in england would be in tier 1 but for the idiots.

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I take it by idiots you mean the people in charge talk about changing rules to suit them it was all about the R rate a few months back and keeping it below 1 North West 0.8 to 1.0 lowest in country majority shoved in tier 3, London 1.0 to 1.2 tier 2 if you think you have a chance of watching this great young squad of ours in the flesh any time soon think again. Next general election should imagine if you like them or not the north will vote Labour.

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Next week's game away at Shrewsbury as been moved to a 7-45 kick off as upto 2000 fans can be allowed in as they are in tier 2 thanks for that has made my night.

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yer right yon outback, accrington has lost its identity with sodding hyndburn we would have been in tier 2 if alone not a lot to do with government was local that changed it if i recall correct.

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There were only 28 of us there for a recent away fixture. We were socially distancing before anyone had invented the term... ;)

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One visit was enough unlike the old meadow the new meadow another soulous concrete stadium 7 miles out of town with nothing around.

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And the chap in the coracle doesn't have much to do these days either...

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Very good.

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Clubs in steps 3-6 in tier 3 areas have been told no fans they were allowed in before in limited numbers now a lot saying without those fans they can't afford to stage games and some already calling for a halt again. Still no bailout at elite level and though the return of fans at " some grounds as been quoted in some circles as a step in the right direction others saying it will be less cost effective than no fans difficult and with this tier system lasting untill end of March could be a interesting juggling of finances especially if you are moved in or out of a tier, personally think we should have all been put in the same restrictions until the vaccine rolls out ".

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Personally think Shrewsbury’s a decent ground. Percy Thrower’s garden centre just up the road and a decent pub on the island down the road that welcomes away supporters and a fiver to leave your car there. 5 minute walk.

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[QUOTE=andyd;1247296" some grounds as been quoted in some circles as a step in the right direction others saying it will be less cost effective than no fans
can understand that as all you are going to get anyway is season ticket holders that the club already has the money for. even down in leagues 1 and 2 there will not be many clubs with less than 2,000 season ticket holders.

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not being a lover of shrewsbury itself, always managed to get lost, and gay meadow also i looked forward to their new ground. how disapointing could it be. been there, done it, crossed off the list, end of and never to be repeated. well not till they build a motorway link from the ground right up to somewhere like sandbach at least.

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When I visited the pub was that packed you would have needed a crowbar to jemmy your way in, parking was free I think the ground is just a thrown up concrete ugly no character shell , visit garden centres all the time with my green fingered better half oh yes a camp site if you take your tent with you, at least when it was in " Shrewsbury " you could wander around the centre with a choice of various things to do, out of town stadiums do nothing for me.

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will we get a live stream next wednesday now some of their fans can get back.

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Can't see why not, trouble is with making it a later kick off will have to watch I,m a celebrity on catch up the joys of life in tier 3.

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[QUOTE=andyd;, at least when it was in " Shrewsbury " you could wander around the centre with a choice of various things to do, out of town stadiums do nothing for me.[/QUOTE]

know that her in the kitchen and my ex wife did go to away games. they do their thing with shops etc. whilst i watch the match. i imagine i will not be the only one who do this just to keep the peace. out of town grounds really me i,m on my own with a dog and usually for one visit to them only. anyone actually visited the delights of afc fylde with over a hour to spare sums these places up.

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A.F.C.Fylde wouldn't be bad for me the lad lives round the corner.

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North West Counties league in step 3 of the pyramid have delayed their restart because 40 of their teams are in tier 3 areas until 19th December when they will review again can see it being quite a long delay as these tiers won't change quickly.

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This tier thing is a joke in my opinion, it should be the same across the country.

All that is happening is people are moving between tiers!!

:) :) :)

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Charlton can have being in tier 2 upto 2000 fans next home game, on their website it says they have over 4000 season ticket holders. They have looked at it and are going to do a ballot but are ruled out if you live in Kent tier 3 which unsurprisingly is quite a lot. If you are picked but can't attend for whatever reason maybe over 70 and scared you lose your free IFollow pass and have to pay for the privalige logistical nightmare interesting comments on their forum what are clubs with 10000+ ticket holders going to do can see many supporters being upset and peed off no easy answers.

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1247319]This tier thing is a joke in my opinion, it should be the same across the country.

All that is happening is people are moving between tiers!!

plenty just have to do that just for work and shopping if you live in a border town like i do. you will not stop going to a tesco 3 miles away just to travel to one 10 miles away to stay in your tier.

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Most people I know say the same why when scientist,s say tiers 1+2 don't suppress it tier 3 with hospitality allowed to operate as before should have been rolled out across the country.

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this virus has more intelligence than its given credit for. it knows quite well which tier people are in, have a rest over the christmas period and like many others think that the trip across to the isle of wight is a complete rip off.

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This return of fans looks complicated, especially when there are more season ticket holders than available seats. This is what's happening at Shrewsbury on Wednesday:
https://www.shrewsburytown.com/news/...s-information/

And they're charging £10 for the car park!

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Jesus think I will stick with IFollow no masks warm slippers a brew and only the wall to argue with, can sing or shout to my heart's content better to wait till we are back to normal.

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That's always been the charge nothing to do with Covid.
Normally 98% are sold on a season pass basis and there were always only about 50 left over at a tenner first come first served.
If it were Accy we'd be getting charged mate.

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its virtually impossible to sort out for gods sake just put up with things and stop moaning.

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just thinking the same. you could not argue with anyone as they,d be too far away . by the time i,d read all those instructions anyway i might have missed the game anyway. i,ll certainly wait till we get back to normal without the match being sponsored by, lockdown, 3 tiers, masks, bubbles, protocol, social distancing and the rest of the words new to our vocablury in 2020.

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Tier systems to last till Easter so no chance of tier 1 for Lancashire so that's a 50-50 chance of fans back or in Hyndburn,s case as Cashy would put it no chance full of dickheads not moaning saying it as it is.

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And still no bailout

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Agee it aint a surprise - Charlton is historically in Kent and they have SE7 KENT painted on the concrete in the away end. They have a massive Kent catchment area to the east and south east with Gillingham the only other league club with a claim on Kent.

The ground isn't safe as it is, the seats are too close if you wanted to sit down, designed for 5'8" Hobits.