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Butcher doubtful, Savin back in contention I,ll go with:-. Baxter.
Nottingham. Hughes. Burgess.
Rodgers. McConville. Conneelly. Pritchard. Uwakawe.
Bishop. Charles.

Subs :-. Savin. Sykes. Barclay. Russell. Roberts.
Fenlon. Cassidy.

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How’s the weather and pitch, anyone?

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no idea exile but my prediction is defo on, been no rain since last night pitch was covered i believe so im looking forward to a very tight game today.

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Game on

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Thanks, chaps, all I have to do now is find my credit card.;)

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Hi Andyd. Do you know why Matt is doubtful.....is it a knock?

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Coley mentioned it somewhere.

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Actual line up:-. Baxter.
Sykes. Hughes. Burgess.
Nottingham. McConville. Conneelly. Butcher. Pritchard.
Bishop. Charles.


Subs:-. Savin. Barclay. Sama. Russell. Uwakawe. Roberts. Cassidy.

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shame ross aint bad though shows how useless the E.F.L. are the bbc have yje line up they aint.

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Another new line up......don't know how this will work out......strongest players individually.....I guess we will know in a couple of hours.....Come On Stanley...

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Butcher off injured......possible broken nose.....Russel on....

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Ohhhhhh Gils score....

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Oh dear, second best first half. Lets hope we shape up second half

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0-1 Gils with the help of the ref have been better.....HT

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(*&*&^$&^%$%&*%&^%$#^%@$#$#!$#^%$$%$%%%. :(

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Worst referee for some time. Does he normally take rugby league games? Gills are bullying Stanley who are just standing and waiting for the ball to come them whilst the ref is allowing the Gills players to barge in, on or off their feet. Get stuck in lads.

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Well we have been poor can't understand playing Sykes at wing back when he as hardly trained GED Brannen,s words he is already blowing and on a yellow Butcher injury a blow but we are way below boar today just haven't got going time for a word Coley.

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that ref is abysmal must be related or friends with kettle. ross,s was never a booking in 100 years he also has let gillingham away with quite a few rough tackles no wonder coley was raving, dont think we have played that poor the gills have been better in my view.

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He wasnt booked for the “foul” he was booked for booting the ball away in frustration.

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Must play with some craft and imagination from midfield if anything is to be salvaged from this poor performance ... Hopeful punts in any direction are just not good enough !..

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well everyones frustrated with that prat

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the referee beat us today the piece of crap.

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Grumpy Sunday has started at my place. :(

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Poor first half and all but last few minutes of the second. Lacklustre, slow to think and act, very predictable, either getting themselves in trouble trying to play out from the back or hoofing hopeful long balls up to isolated strikers. Reveals just how much Butcher offers the team. Back to the training ground on Monday.

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Once again referee Drysdale has done Stanley out of being treated fairly.:knife:
If Ross was booked for kicking the ball away then virtually the whole team from Gillingham should have been booked. He chose to ‘miss’ seeing the clear push down on Hughes going for a diving header right at the end. Stanley did not play well today but Drysdale did not treat us fairly!
So many times this guy has ruined Stanley matches over recent seasons.
IMHO Drysdale is not good enough to referee matches at any level!:pain30:

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Ref not great today cashy, but we didn't play well. They carried a threat upfront with crosses into our box. Our midfield were poor. We were better when Cassidy came on for Sykes...but we were well under par today. And no luck in the box.....header against the bar and denied the Hughes penalty late on....Even McC's free kick at the end was poor.....

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My two penny worth, we didn't start well but came more into the game as first half wore on - big blow losing Butcher to a broken nose, Russell tried but to be honest wasn't an adequate substitute for Matt
We were much better in the second half but a combination of the Gills' physical tactics & Mr. Drysdale's apparent reluctance to penalise any of them (possibly afraid of the reaction from that nice Mr. Evans if he did so) culminated in in just not being our day. Colby could/should have done better with some of the corners put in by Sean & yes, I think we should definitely have had a penalty when Hughes was hauled down in the dyeng minutes but I'm not too despondent - of course I'm not happy that we lost but it grates more that it was against an Evans team who played exactly as you would expect them too & were allowed to get away with it by our friend Mr. Drysdale

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Giveover the ref didn't make us lackluster nor did he make us lump aimless passes upfront, our midfield was poor today Russell might as well not have come on for Butcher Pritchard unusually quiet, think Coley dropped one putting Sykes at wing back showed by switching him second half.Ok the ref probably got the penalty wrong but today we were beaten by the better side on the day. We even playing so poor had some chances which is a positive when you're having a bad day but we managed to squirm those very tough game away at Hull Tuesday.

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Three clear penalties not given.

One game doesn’t define a season.

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Well if Hull were watching....they won't be expecting too much on Tuesday. Butchers injury a real problem..thats the worst thing that's happened today....did anybody else see an elbow?

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thought i did but drysdale didnt want too.

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On the other hand if they watched us last Friday & again today, they'll be as flummoxed as the rest of us & won't know what to expect - lulling them into a false sense of security :cool:
Hope Matt Butcher is ok, we really missed him after his injury - didn't see how it was inflicted & neither apparently did Mr. Drysdale

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Evans has put teams out playing a physical game (and sometimes cheating) throughout his career and we were poor in adapting our game to counteract his tactics.

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Referee Drysdale is poor.. we all know that, and once again he lived up to his reputation, even turning up in semi-disguise with shaven head and full beard !.

But this does not detract from the lack of drive, cohesion, craft, and even basic football skills which was clearly there to see throughout the team this afternoon.
A trend which if not quickly and surely reversed might well see a return to mid-table anonymity!.

The Gills performance was exactly as expected and did little to add to a dreary and uninteresting game. But isn’t this what Steve Evans believes to be the way to present football to the masses ?.

Hull City looms large , and much more will be needed from all picked to play against them. Hope it appears !.

( If you think my post is somewhat grumpy then blame it all on Lockdown lethargy ! )... ON STANLEY ! ON TO GREATER THINGS !!.

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On the money Andy.
Ref didn't lose us this we were poor and at times bullied.
Getting fed up of our forwards whinging and moaning throwing the hands up.
Sooner see you hand a bit out.

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The forwards and midfield looked like strangers at times like I said earlier we just didn't click today, one forced substitute then one more after 80 minutes would have thought has apart from a ten minute spell at beginning of second half we were pretty second best surely the time for change but I ain't the boss, hopefully a better performance Tuesday many changes I wouldn't think so unless a new face or two sign on.

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Well that'll teach us! :bingobang
They do say that pride comes before a fall.
Was this the same Stanley that embarrassed Charlton at the Valley & beat the Gills on their own midden?
Or was it back to the 'Jekyll & Hyde' Stanley of old?
Ruthless & efficient at dispatching victims with ease when out on the prowl, reverting to a hapless walkover back home once the serum has worn off.
Let's hope Mr Hyde returns to stalk the KCOM stadium next Tuesday.
:evil: :evil: :evil:

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yesterday was just a train of events that cost stanley. butcher going off injured, the ross no foul that eventually led to their winner, hitting the bar when the free header should have been on target then the push on hughes when he was going for the header. even with drysdales willingness to penalise stanley at every opportunity and his nelsons eye approach to them another day we,d have won. for a good number of years now stanley seem to save their best performances away from the wham and when there is anything that goes wrong it always seems to be at the wham.

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[QUOTE=StanleyJosh;

One game doesn’t define a season.[/QUOTE]

it shouldn,t but its not always the case. think over the years there has been a game where we won after an average season when the side then kicks on. the opposite can happen too. might be just a co incidence but it happens.

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[QUOTE=yonmon;1249231]Referee Drysdale is poor.. we all know that, and once again he lived up to his reputation, even turning up in semi-disguise with shaven head and full beard !.

its not just stanley fans that think this. he is dreaded at doncaster for a start when they get him with a regularity of similar performances as we got yesterday. i know myself you can only give what you see but the law of averages should say you,ll miss things for both sides. that certainly was not the case yesterday. if coley does say something about him thats totally true then we will no the outcome. a big fine from the FA. about time refs are more accountable and not being allowed to hide behind their employers as much.

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Maybe Monkey, if you believe in those sorts of "happenings". But I don't. I think Coley put his finger on it during his interview. He was at fault yesterday and not as he said for getting the players up for the game. First of all he experimented with the player choice to accomodate what he see's as our best players.....playing some out of position.......the midfield was all over the shop during the game......something definately wrong there.......and I can't put my finger on it..........Plus of course Evans got the tactics right, pressing us high and making the defenders go long most of the time to our forwards by-passing the midfield......against the Gills we probably needed another grafting midfielder alongside Seamus to help break up play, win the ball back and play the simple balls forward to our creative midfielders......Just some thoughts.....

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John Doolan was very vocal during the first half in attempting to get Seamus on the ball more to break up play and create the link in the passage between defence and attack.
I was surprised at how high up the pitch he was playing for large parts of the first half considering Sean and Johnny Russell are much more attacking midfielders.
As has been previously mentioned, we are trying it seems to fit our best 11 players into a system that may not suit them.
McConville in particular has struggled in the CM roll. A switch with him and Pritchard is a possibility. I think Coley made the right decision swapping Sykes and Nottingham after the first half, but we were just too sluggish throughout the pitch.
Game of small margins though and I hope this is a sign that we are a good team that even when we played below par, we still had chances. Seamus’s strike from my position didn’t look like it missed by much, Colby and Notts both had free headers.
Hopefully Butchers noggin isn’t too badly broke and he is back in contention ASAP.

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Scrap the Seamus strike part - just seen the highlights, miles off haha!

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Don't forget as well Charles really should have scored in the 6th minute had that gone in different game has Stanley's heads would have been up, but Butcher was a big miss to me Coley made a couple of mistakes ( he isn't infallible ) Sykes should have started in the back 3, should in my opinion brought Uwakawe on and moved Pritchard inside Russell hasn't had a decent performance for a while, would it have made a difference who knows positive,s had we took the chances playing badly we would have won, referee irrelevant same for both sides, Conneelly even though it's his job as Captain spent far too much time talking to him concentration should be on the game even so he was one of our better players yesterday.

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[QUOTE=StanleyJosh;
As has been previously mentioned, we are trying it seems to fit our best 11 players into a system that may not suit them.
McConville in particular has struggled in the CM roll. A switch with him and Pritchard is a possibility.

for me sean is a wide player and always will be. pritchard however has improved on last season by playing wider also. so who do you play there. for me you cannot accomodate both on the pitch together as you take away something from both players by playing em centrally.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1249248][QUOTE=StanleyJosh;
As has been previously mentioned, we are trying it seems to fit our best 11 players into a system that may not suit them.
McConville in particular has struggled in the CM roll. A switch with him and Pritchard is a possibility.

for me sean is a wide player and always will be. pritchard however has improved on last season by playing wider also. so who do you play there. for me you cannot accomodate both on the pitch together as you take away something from both players by playing em centrally.[/QUOTE]

Agree Josh.
Pritchard was the shock for me yesterday - hardly involved and when he was poor.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1249248][QUOTE=StanleyJosh;
As has been previously mentioned, we are trying it seems to fit our best 11 players into a system that may not suit them.
McConville in particular has struggled in the CM roll. A switch with him and Pritchard is a possibility.

for me sean is a wide player and always will be. pritchard however has improved on last season by playing wider also. so who do you play there. for me you cannot accomodate both on the pitch together as you take away something from both players by playing em centrally.[/QUOTE]

It also shows that with Sangare and Sheriff injured does Coley not rate or think any of the younger ones are ready to step up.

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Why did Gillingham's assistant manager get booked, it didn't seem like they had much to moan about? I could have seen it being John or Jimmy instead!

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As far as I saw and I'm aware; the only dug out issue was an official warning given to Steve Evans after 35 seconds for a volley of foul and abusive language which everybody in the ground heard:(

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The main problem for our team shape yesterday was getting the right balance across the midfield four but also fitting the right players into those roles. I would say that we have our best goalkeeper now playing well in Baxter. The back three is sound with, from the left, Burgess...Hughes and either Nottingham or Sykes. Conneely is a successful fixture in the deep midfield role. Bearing in mind that I don’t think that Wing Back is the correct role for Sykes and with the current crop of injuries to our midfield players and yesterday having to make that early change for Butcher, I would have started or moved Sykes to/at Right Back and Nottingham at Right Centre Midfield. Pritchard and McConville are much too similar to each other to play them adjacent to each other so I would have brought on Uwakwe for Butcher and played him wide on one wing and McConville on the other but with the freedom to swap wings freely. Pritchard’s role in this arrangement would be for him to cover as much ground as possible being creative in a free roaming way whereas Nottingham could have stayed more pivotal in the central role that Butcher has been playing so well recently. Bishop and Charles paired up front is an obvious choice too. Gary Robert’s as first choice sub is versatile and experienced enough to replace all but the three at the back plus Conneely.

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Couldn't hear him on iFollow but you didn't need to be an expert in lip reading to get the gist - disgusting individual!

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Their assistant manager or coach definitely got a yellow.... I’m sure of it this time !!

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yes it was big gob rayner. no matter how succesful him and the fat man are i would not want em within 100 miles of any club i supported. most managers at times let it rip but those two put it to another level.