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Very difficult home game this Town are hard to break down and also they have a good record at the Wham last 9 league games W5 D2 L2 so we need to be at it and all over them going for same 18 and starting 11 although Coley and co might think different as a lot of tired legs after Wednesday night.

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Although Coley does not know/understand rotation/squad members and substitutions, this is the time he needs to learn quickly! :)

Did not use subs last game, only 1 sub (90+4 does not count in my eyes!) the game before...

Yes he is the Football Genius, but with a couple of tweaks, he would be a Super Genius (Google tells me this is higher than Genius!! :D)

"Johnny Coleman Super Football Genius" will be ringing out of the Clayton End next season....... ;)

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By the way, I would be looking at going back to a 3 and giving some game time to Harvey and Tariq :)

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Hope yer right mate but very much doubt it he is too stubborn for his own good i think, hope very much i am wrong.

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Subs for subs sake? If the eleven who played on Wednesday are fit, what’s the purpose of starting differently?
I’m sure any of the squad would do a good job but Professor Coleman seems to have the “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” approach.
Having said that, he made an early change against Northampton (it was them, wasn’t it, games are coming so fast it’s hard to keep up) when things needed to change.
But whoever plays, good luck to ‘em.

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not subs for subs sake at all its common sense if ones tiring or got a bit ofv a knock.

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Without being privy to training sessions all we see is the actual game time I personally think Bishop looked tired but at the moment no striker replacement,s fit, Conneelly has worked his socks off played well but took a heavy challenge Wednesday, nothing wrong with keeping same 11 but these aren't normal times and games twice a week. I think the coaching staff or certainly hope so won't push any players to hard so it's wait and see.

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How long will Pritchard be out?

I haven't seen anything that detailed his injury.

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I too used to verse a complaint about Coley's use or lack of use of subs, now with Stanley way up the table in league 1, it does seem like the title football genius is a title justly deserved

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was it not a three game ban, for the sending off against Northampton, so he will be eligible for today or have i missed that he his injured as well

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it said somewhere the lad was injured but cant remember where,but i thought twas a 1 game ban?

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yes just found it cashy hamstring injury, conneely took a knock on wednesday

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With two games a week every week until the end of the season, I would think some rotation is essential to prevent a first-choice eleven all running out of energy at the same time. Question is, given rotation inevitably weakens the side from said first-choice eleven a bit, do you rotate against weaker sides and hope you manage to squeak a win anyway, or against stronger sides and effectively write off a game you'd be likely to lose anyway? Or just do a minor rotation every game?

Coley's mantra of course is that there are no easy games ...... it's a puzzler!

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myself if a player is knackered or taken a knock i think its a good idea to sub them no matter who we play.

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Well it's the same 18 same starting 11 that answers that, Pritchard, Cassidy and Roberts surely must be close to full fitness.

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I've no problems with the same 11 as long as the coaches and players themselves say they are good to go no need for change. Come on Stanley.

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Totally agree, Cashy, that’s why I said “ If the eleven who played on Wednesday are fit”

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oh agree with same eleven starting its what happens during game that bothers me.

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Hate it when we kick to the Clayton End first half :(

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Pitch is dire

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Dire game

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Tired legs anyone.

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Poor performance from Stanley. Shrews easily won that half, thank heavens they couldn’t find the net. Looks like they see Butcher as the danger as there’s sometimes three players on him.
Let’s hope playing into the wind encourages fewer high balls. Philips last corner must set some kind of record for an over hit ball. It bounced about five yards from the opposite corner flag! :eek:

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Morgan getting a serious warm up at half time.

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Superb last ditch tackle from Barclay probably the highlight of Stanley's performance first half like I said in very difficult conditions some tired legs Conneelly and Bishop look off the pace Seamus took the card but he was absolutely nutmeged which isn't him, 2 yellow cards will Coley change things.

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Terrible first half all round :(

Still yet to be impressed with what I have seen of Phillips........

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1-0 seamus

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Seamus strike tired or not well struck.

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You feckin beautyyyy seamus

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Amazing what a decent cross from Philips can do. Well done, captain

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At last he has put his foot through one :)

Get in Captain

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By Jove! Just jumped up to 5th spot.
Let's have another!

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(*^&^%#*&iuo&^%&^$#%%oi*&)p(&*^%*&%$^^*(*^!!!!! :(

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...and look at the prick who scored it...disgusting ..:(

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Shocking defending at the nearest post we have been poor even when in front.

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1-1 oh shot

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Crying out for a further change Butcher hobbling.

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the wind and state of pitch have ruined this game in my view

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Feel like Stanley were fortunate to come away with a point. Poor. But could have been worse.

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Shaun bloody Whalley ruined it from mine....:(

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It has but as the saying goes same for both sides and Shrewsbury were worth the draw glad it's over afternoon to forget some poor performance,s from Stanley missed Smyth,s pace presumably injured, Bishop and Charles were very ineffective, midfield in general guilty of giving ball away defence didn't do much wrong hard to play long in that wind but midfield just couldn't get to grips with the conditions, Phillips not in the game to me not sure if he would be better further forward, possible changes Tuesday night 2: points lost.

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Awful, scrappy game in very difficult conditions - second half was slightly better than the first at least for a while. Poor goal to gift the Shrews but all in all I'd say a draw was a fair result - hope Smyth's & Butchers knocks aren't too bad, we go again at Crewe on Tuesday

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The substitute question again 2 made today both enforced and Butcher played hobbling for quite a while you can't argue with Stanley's league position but in awful conditions playing poorly in my opinion leggy players when will subs be used, do Coleman, Bell and Doolon think their good enough, I bet Sean if on bench today would have come on, subs can change games sometimes negatively but to not use them you don't find out is it a case of being wary of making a mistake.

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personally i think its sheer stupidity.

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Prepared to give them the benefit of doubt - so lets see if theres a rebound Tuesday.
Im starting to worry about our defence.
I think Yosser needs a rest - he just looks to me like he's got a mistake in him too often. I’d say he’s mentally tired.
We’ve looked very open of late.
On to the next one......

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Strange post match interview with Coley says they never laid a glove on us second half but they had 2 shots on target we had 1 the goal does he really believe we deserved to win that.

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Tbh, I thought Coley look tired, never mind the players. But no rest for the next month with two games a week.

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We were second best yesterday - in my opinion, pitch/conditions did not help, but there looks to be lads who are shot out there............

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I thought and said that before we kicked a ball yesterday.

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Is a 75-85% fit first team player better than a 100% second choice?

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depends if its an injured player coming back thats playing surely?

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also some people dont seem to grasp if a players knackered then hes not as good.

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So what would your answer to my question be?

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Well mine would be, "possibly, for about 15 minutes".

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well i think its rather obvious to anyone with brains.?

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Josh, we have a squad of players, any of which, should be able to pull on the jersey :)

I will though agree, that of the squad, there are probably 15 first choice players.

Therefore, it should be quite easy to rest players and not have a poor team :)

Super Mac and Pritchard are both out at the moment - they are 2 players I feel Coley would pick every game.

Harvey has played well most of the time he has been on the pitch this season.

All about opinions, doubt that anybody thinks Coley does not know what he is doing, but he will admit his Achilles is, substitutes and rotation :)

The is a poster on here - does not post as much as he used to - who could can give examples of what not rotating can do to a player................


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In answer to that, 100% second choice - i.e. one of the 15 first picks :)

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you obviously mean the guy whose son suffered badly from a certain action taken?

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You know Cashy, we both do...........

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We all know that Coleys players will run through a brick wall for him, but some ran through 2, or 3................

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The answer to that is if you pick a player who is proven to be 75% fit you surely say you won't be playing the full 90 minutes, to me with McConville, Pritchard, Roberts, Cassidy, Sangare, all carrying some injury or suspension who would probably be in the 18 the others just make the bench to fit criteria such as Maguire, Scully they just don't seem to be considered.

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Also it's a results business and Coley will want to hang in or around the playoff positions so maybe asking the players who he deems good enough and fit to hang on in there till the other lads are back fit he won't I wouldn't think unless no other option be throwing any of the younger lads in certainly not more than maybe one at a time, with a lot of games still to go I would like to see a fully fit Roberts given game time along with a fit fast Smyth would give us another dimension upfront.

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aye but to me it should NEVER be results at ANY cost.

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I think that, for all teams not just us or our league that the lack of the crowd to roar them on for the last 15 minutes of a game is a factor. I have watched all the matches this season on iFollow and it has been noticable that several of the better teams that we have played haven't even started well and then after half time and they have had the manager giving them the rocket they show a renewed energy in the second half. I know there not alot that can be done except hope that we will be able to get back to the Wham for the start of next season.

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Having McConville an Pritchard back will be a massive boost as the squad looked out on there feet yesterday particularly the midfield , butcher looked fatigued and carrying a knock an Adam Phillips hasn’t looked the player we all expected really his delivery from set plays and his passing has been well below par. Smyth picking up a knock isn’t ideal either We’re still
In a fairly good position heading into an important period of games but our home form has to improve if we have any aspirations of making the play offs.

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I think in the case of Phillips who has started the last 5 games he has blown hot and cold the Shrewsbury and Northampton games were poor team performance,s against Plymouth were we were great but lost he played his best game, agree about his set pieces though they are poor simple someone else take em. Agree also about home performances need to assert ourselves, but lack of crowd deterating pitch surface don't help, maybe different systems for home and away.

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It’s hard to ‘prove’ a player is 75% fit in that sense.

Agree about Hughes looking jaded, Butcher can’t seem to shake off his knock (although he wanted to continue and knows his body enough) and Bishop has been slightly behind the pace lately.

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Yesterday with the conditions making it even harder for anyone who was remotely tired I thought that Baxter pulled a great save off and came off his line 2 or 3 times to stop a run on goal, defence not a worry coping quite well Hughes made one bad pass, midfield just weren't at it yesterday a better side would have really took advantage Phillips just kept running into players, Butcher looked leggy from the start as did Seamus although he scored a cracker even his biggest fans could see he was struggling yesterday and was the one who was beaten front post to the ball for their goal, Smyth tweaked his hamstring reducing our threat up front, Charles always looks sharp and willing but defenders doubled up on him and forced him wide a lot as for Bishop doesn't seem to relish the system to me without the overlapping wingbacks gets dragged out wide to often and was generally ineffective.

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I know we changed the system against Northampton to counter the threat of the high balls into the box but I don't think we've looked anything like as threatening going forwards without the wingbacks. I hoped we might have changed the system back against Donny last week which might also have given the chance to give one or two a rest but it didn'y happen and we won so we're probably stuck with the 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 for a bit longer. I think JC is a genius and can't really believe that we're in this position in the league but do think we've drifted away from our best formation.

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season after season with different players in all the sides just why is it stanley struggle against teams like northampton and shrewsbury at home. know one will ever know but i imagine if we had played a top 6 side there would have been a far better performance on saturday. seen some dire games with these two at the wham over the years and a point against either of em always feels like a point gained rather than 2 lost. just never know why stanley consistantly make a struggling side look better than they are.

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i think its because those sides play crap football, crewe on other hand are not a top side but to me always try to play decent football? think we will play much better against a side like that? but sat i thought conditions were atrocious which suited them much more that us.?

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Couple of reasons I believe, at this stage of the season, teams at the bottom are fighting for their lives - just look at every other league :)

Also, they are - in general - poor teams and we do not have a plan B :(

Shrews were better than us on Saturday, but Cobblers were just poor.........

No doubt there are other factors too :)


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Cashy - unfortunately - you are right about The Alex playing good footy, just not tomorrow hopefully ;)

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IMHO Shrewsbury are better team currently than they were earlier in the season. In their last ten league matches before playing us their form has been really good..........
P10, ..... W7, D1, L2.
Which, dare I suggest, is top six form.
They outplayed our midfield and therefore controlled most of the match, thus reducing the amount of quality supply to our forwards. Luckily our defence and goal keeper played well and the one real error we made at the back allowed them to score, when two of our defenders got in each other’s way from a corner!
IMHO, in the end a draw was a good result for us.

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1250634]Couple of reasons I believe, at this stage of the season, teams at the bottom are fighting for their lives - just look at every other league :)

Also, they are - in general - poor teams and we do not have a plan B :(

Shrews were better than us on Saturday, but Cobblers were just poor.........

No doubt there are other factors too :)


some of these lower teams are having their own great escape. many however are not but find stanley are easy pickings. think this plan B thing is a bit overated as you,d think the teams that play a more attractive game would change their style at the wham after seeing what lesser clubs can achieve. its a case there are others that have only one plan themselves.