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One win in last 14 in free fall need 3 points here Coley has a selection headache choosing who,s fit enough and playing well and does he go back to 3-5-2.

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Well that is an emphatic home win on the cards then :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Didn't we start 3-5-2 last night at Crewe?

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Ideal line up for me subject to injuries etc.
Baxter
Burgess Hughes Nottingham
Pritchard Barclay Conneely McConville
Smyth
Bishop Charles

Get McConville back to the position he knows.

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exactly. if he is not being played there just put him on the bench or sat with dan.

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Just watched Coley's pre match interview and it is good to see him acknowledging that he misses the presence of Accrington fans both at home, but also the much smaller number that go away.

I'm sure we would have had a good number making the shortish trip to Fleetwood supporting our lads......including me!

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Well, he's had his warm up game and surely he must be due a goal! I can't remember the last time he scored........?

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If Barclay, Pritchard and Smyth fit I,d go:-
Baxter.
Nottingham. Barclay. Hughes. Burgess.
Butcher. Conneelly. Morgan.
Smyth. Charles. Pritchard.

Subs:- Savin. Maguire. Russell. Uwakawe. Phillips. McConville . Bishop.

I,d give Bishop a break and just try 3 pacey players upfront.

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[QUOTE=andyd;

I,d give Bishop a break and just try 3 pacey players upfront.[/QUOTE]

so would i especially if they have a big defence. some of this type will head the ball all day but struggle against smaller tricky lads.

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Barclay in midfield? Seriously?

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Has played there before and has played well there before :)

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Baxter, Nottingham, Hughes, Burgess, Butcher, Pritchard, Barclay, Bishop, Conneely, Charles, Phillips :)

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1250880]Baxter, Nottingham, Hughes, Burgess, Butcher, Pritchard, Barclay, Bishop, Conneely, Charles, Phillips :)[/QUOTE

My only hope is Joe that today the Reds play football instead of merely playing with a football !. :cool:

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I think it might be a diamond midfield:-
Baxter.
Nottingham. Barclay. Hughes. Burgess.
Conneelly.
Butcher. Phillips.
Pritchard.
Charles. Bishop.
Subs:-. Savin. Smyth. Maguire. McConville. Russell. Uwakawe. Morgan.

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I am sure he can, but to drop engine room Butcher for Barclay makes no sense to me.

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doubt if thats the case mate butcher is playing midfield also.

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Its called rotation not dropping.
He’s had some bad knocks of late.
Anyway what do I know he’s in there.

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YOU BEAUTY...1 zip.

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1-0 STanley phillips good goal.

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1-1

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1-1 another good goal.

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(*&i&^$%%&^$&i&^%#%&^(*^!!!!! :(

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Disappointed they haven't been in the game.

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Really ?
How has Baxter not saved that ?
Shouldn't get caught on the near post like that.

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Bishop should have scored.

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Kept us in it with two excellent saves.

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Not a bad game to watch but I fear we are losing control of the midfield Phillips ok great goal but down that right flank he isn't bringing Nottingham into the game at all, we started ok but have gone to giving the ball away again cheaply, their goal I think Baxter will be disappointed it was his near post but it was an excellent strike but sign of a great keeper hasn't let it affect his concentration and has kept us in it, need Smyth on sooner than later.

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giving the ball away in bad places is my main worry, over first 45mins we been best that apart in my view,

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Were has our midfield gone?

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After the goal ........
Still doesn't change the fact that Burns should not have scored from where he was.

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Baxter can he play in midfield as well?

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It's gone let it go.

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Mom Baxter.

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Oh well, 1 point better than zilch...onwards STANLEY

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You can’t be serious. Twice in 2 games he’s been at fault for a goal.

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Not created enough today in the final third, but we have plenty of creative players on the pitch. I would personally rest or bench Charles...which may happen anyway if he is injured. He's doing nothing wrong.......but it may just give him his edge back. He gets surrounded by defenders when he gets the ball. It's a real compliment to the lad.

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whatever its still been a much better season than anyone hoped simple as.

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It wasn't a bad game typical derby lacking quality dare I say I think team selection today was wrong Phillips just hasn't had a decent game, Smyth should have started came on and at least showed some threat last few games we have looked jaded upfront, midfield today was poor lazy passing unbalanced with Phillips in, McConville came on and made little difference. Hughes outstanding at the back yes I am serious Baxter will be the first to hold his hand up for the goal but 2 great saves and a penalty but go on drop one of our most consistent performers in the midst of a poor run you need to get real just wish his talent and enthusiasm would run off on the rest of the team.

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never said drop him? but keep looking through those negative lenses of yours and putting words into peoples mouths.

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And which midfield would that be pray tell ?.
As usual ' anonymous' would appear to describe those chosen to play in the 'engine room '.
Is it any wonder that the two strikers are not scoring when no support is forthcoming !.
Another poor display which must have the Manager and Coaches worried about the future of this underachieving squad ??..

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Unbelievable.

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Yonmon, I do hope I have missed the sarcasm in your post.
Our strikers are the only ones who are scoring!
You surely can’t look at this season and say we are underachieving....

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What's negative about wanting us to play better I applaud were it fits and criticism is aimed at those who aren't playing or doing their jobs properly, and may I add it is constructive criticism based on as Coley says wanting to win every game. Home against Ipswich Tuesday and we need to improve our home form and 3 points are needed to hang onto the shirt tails of the leaders.

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Because you have to be realistic as well and realise we aren’t playing FIFA or Football Manager.

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We are seventh. The games in hand have evaporated and the gap to the rest of the pack has narrowed.
I wasn't expecting us to be where we are so no complaints.
Very frustrated though.
I don’t think much of this recent run has anything to do with ability but all to do with fatigue and dare I suggest the depth of the squad.
On to the next one.

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I expected more Cashy !.. more football that is, from Professional players who in my opinion should really try to do better for their Manager and their fans !.

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how the hell can we have a squad to compare with the big teams in div 1 ? its not rocket science its common sense.!

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Think we are competing fairly well with the ‘big teams’

Beat Hull.
Beat Charlton.
Beat Peterborough.
Above Ipswich.

Beat Man United (I know, I know, shhh...)

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We can compete against big teams as a one off but over a season the larger and more talented squads tend to come out on top.

Anyone else want to send Agent Phillips back to Morecombe. I'm sure he meant to sky his goal.

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[QUOTE=Inspector Morse;1250925]We can compete against big teams as a one off but over a season the larger and more talented squads tend to come out on top.


Hallelujah brother.
I never said anything about expecting us to compete with the big boys Cashy.
However our squad 14 to 20 isnt good enough.
Not a criticism just a fact.
Maybe thats why Coley isnt into rotation.
If theres one thing Ive learnt from 2015 of following the team home and away is to reign it in a bit and accept the clubs philosophy.

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I mentioned fatigue on here 3 or 4 games back but with injuries and suspension we,ve soldered on the big question is if everyone is fit and available who gets the nod?

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to be honest i thought he rotated well today, it didnt win us the game i know.and i am one of the biggest critics of him not rotating in good time,

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1250926]And someone said I,d negative lenses.

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Did we not win the conference and league 2 titles or was I dreaming.

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[QUOTE=andyd;1250929]There’s a difference between being realistic and understanding where we are and what we have, and living in cloud cuckoo land

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[QUOTE=StanleyJosh;1250931]I think I know exactly where Stanley are seeing as I have followed them since 1970 first game against Formby and then on and off like you do has a kid season ticket holder since non league days so doesn't make me an expert or right all the time but I refrain from other than in humour insults at fellow supporters.

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[QUOTE=andyd;1250929]What’s negative about what I’ve put ?
I think the word you’re seeking is realistic.
Wind your neck in.

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;1250933]��

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[QUOTE=andyd;1250932]Spot on man.............

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[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1250935]Thanks 👍

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Josh !.. you know that I am never sarcastic!.. given to veiled cynicism now and again maybe, so yes you're correct and didn't spot the least smidgeon of sarcasm in my post .
However,reading other posts I do not seem to be alone in thinking that Stanley's current midfielders are not the best, or performing to a degree where there is the Zest and thrust emanating from that area of play which ensures our pair of strikers time and opportunity to score the goals which will win games. I'm certain that the Manager knows this also and some of his work in progress will be devoted to improving these deficiencies.
As to our striking duo,and I'm probably wrong in thinking this. It is apparent more often as the season progresses, that they are both in need of a period of R and R ... I think others have noticed this using the terms 'jaded' and 'tired. However, in the absence of replacements to form a rotation of forward players then I guess that they will have to soldier on regardless and score when and wherever the odd chance comes their way !.
It goes without saying that I take some satisfaction from our current league position and maintain the pride I have always held for the team which I have followed and supported for so long.
So if I do have a gripe now and again, it does I hope never appear to be sarcastic in any way !..KEEP THE FAITH !

ON STANLEY... ON TO GREATER THINGS !!.

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You have a way with words good Sir, that sums everything up so eloquently.

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A general comment, but I prefer it when Tariq plays some part in the games as he tends to keep wide and puts crosses into the box for Dion, Colby and whoever else makes a forward run......

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Coley,s post match interview spot on did we deserve 3 points no probably not started well but then opened up and give them space, Stanley need to find their mojo back the spark from earlier in the season has gone. Thinks there was nothing wrong with the disallowed Smyth goal and although the ref got little wrong I agree watching again with Coley the goal should have stood fine margins.

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[QUOTE=Twenty Eight;

What’s negative about what I’ve put ?
I think the word you’re seeking is realistic.


for some unknown reason being realistic is classed as negative for some unknown reason. think fans like those at all clubs do tend to get above themselves when players and the side are doing well. think the majority would have jumped for say 12th place in the league at this stage back in august. would anyone have really moaned about an away draw against fleetwood if it had been the first game of the season. not the best game yesterday but have seen far worse and was happy getting something out of it.

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We wuz robbed! This is from Dan on Twitter:
Great fun to do a full commentary on a really exciting game at Higbury for nobody at all to hear. Cheers iFollow!

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dan must think like me IFOLLOW is pretty rubbish

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EFL team of the week keeper Nathan Baxter :alright:

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Some no marks who didn't even watch the game will have seen he saved a penalty.
If you start following this trollop and give it credence .........
NEARLY as bad as some of the MOM selections I witnessed in the good old days when fans were there.

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Don’t haha ! I had to flipping announce it! That’s the problem with the ‘sponsors’ choosing. Although their money is most welcome! Most the time the players were embarrassed to accept it!

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Well most of the time in my experience sponsored tables are full of people prepared to throw a few bib in out for an enjoyable day many of them never go near a football match and just conjour a man of the match for a laugh through mainly alcohol fuelled eyes, not really comparable to who picks EFL teams of the week.

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Well most of the time in my experience sponsored tables are full of people prepared to throw a few bob in out for an enjoyable day many of them never go near a football match and just conjour a man of the match for a laugh through mainly alcohol fuelled eyes, not really comparable to who picks EFL teams of the week.

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It’s prepared by a statistics company giving points for each player, similar to how a fantasy football works.

Should a keeper who saves a pen to earn a draw, be higher rated than a keeper keeping a clean sheet?

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A centre-forward who scored a hat-trick, but also missed an open goal, would still probably get M-o-M. So why wouldn't a keeper who made three game-saving saves, including a penalty, but also let in a soft one, be considered?

Answers on a postcard to the Goalkeepers' Union ......

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Depends on whether the keeper with the clean sheet has had a save to make happens many times, Baxter's performance,s since he made the starting 11 have been outstanding without looking through every game vastly contributing to our impressive points haul, even the very talented Savin who hopefully is benefiting from training and watching the lad will improve and go on to be a Stanley great, Baxter and I,ve seen a hell of a lot is fast becoming the best we have had between the sticks.

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at least they gave us a laugh and something to talk about at the fag end of boring games. used to love billy kee but the number of times he got the award after an average game was unbelievable.

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Not in the same league as Bavo though ;)

:)

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So who do you think picks these teams and do you seriously think they've watched the games ?

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done that corporate thing once, not at stanley, but its something i,ll never repeat. think i was one of the few who actually attended games regularly and the only sober one for certain.

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Going back to the game and dont forget its opinions I posted Baxter has my mom apart from Hughes who having watched it had a better 90+minutes?

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Hughes was the stand out.
You can't give MOM to a keeper who blunders like Baxter did for the goal no matter what he did after.

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Absolute rubbish if it was a play off game or something similar and his performance got you through he or any keeper would be the hero stick to liking favourites as with anyone who has them it distorts their opinions on games.

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a problem that rears its head in loads of games nowadays is that keepers make fantastic saves but somehow make one big mistake where if they are unlucky it leads to a goal. it would not have changed the result but i,d prefered him to have saved the shot and not the penalty.

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but it wasn't a play off game. he saved a mediocre penalty which helped us draw a game instead of losing.
he was also at fault for a goal conceded.
Not slating his performance but very bemused as to why you say he had a MOM performance.

This whole favouritism thing is absolutely ridiculous as well.

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having a favourite and being a football fan go hand in hand and always have done. our own personal favourite does not mean they are to everone elses taste but thats the name of the game.

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of course.
It was more aimed at someone who if you dare compliment your favourite player you are wrong, and if you criticise another player it's because they aren't a favourite.

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He didnt get us through tough did he ?
We drew ! He gave the equiliser away.
Andy - maybe there are certain players of whom you have distorted views. Give it a rest.

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Let it go throw your toys at something else.

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Gents;

Lets move on please :)

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