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Only certaintie is Pritchard is out in commentary box with Dan 3 points would be welcome.

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Savin.
Rodgers. Nottingham. Hughes. Burgess.
Barclay. Morgan.
Phillips. McConville. Smyth.
Charles.

Subs:- Isherwood. Butcher. Russell. Scully. Maguire. Martin. Mansell.
Good to see a striker back on the bench.

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We owe Steve Jagielka this one...........

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Do we know if there will be a one minute silence or applause before tonight’s match in his memory?

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Just looked at their line up :eek: A complete mismatch!!!


:) :) :)

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Minutes applause

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I agree Joe, Sunderland don't stand a chance :D

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Struggling with I follow again, can't even get a commentary, I'm not going on their live chat, life's too short for that. I'll have to rely on the text updates.

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What a difference confidence makes to a keeper which translates to the defence in front of you, 2 real chances for Stanley finely poised game come on Stanley.

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we aint done bad at all tonight so far.

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Notts and Harvey should have made the keeper make a save as a minimum.............

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not a good goal to concede

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Should be saving that.

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I’m not sure what Phillips role is in the scheme of things ?..
No tackles... misplacing of passes.. aimless running !
With this midfield we’ll win nothing !..

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Awful goalkeeping.
Feel sorry for the lad but this isn’t the keeper being talked of for a major move.

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Am I the only one who thinks that Russell looks disinterested ?.

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Pity 2-0 is flattering for them the sad thing is we have played quite well but some big players missing especially Baxter.

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Not really a 0-2 scoreline, but we did not do enough to win.............

Too many injuries and too many passengers..............

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Savin is nothing like as good as he was at the start of the season, since his return it's hard to believe that he was being looked as one of the best in the league.

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think with savin its inexperience we need an old head,for next season,

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Hard to take positives from any defeat but with a lot of second choice players in our side against on paper possibly the best side in the league we had some good individual performances, Hughes outstanding, Savin up until his mistake had done well, unlucky with the Smyth and Rodgers effort play like that Saturday and we'll beat Wigan and let's be honest most had written us off before a ball was kicked tonight.

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Problem is mistakes by keepers usually result in a goal for the opposition, if Baxter can't play again it's upto the coaching staff and older players to put an arm around him and encourage the lad it's a confidence thing he doesn't suddenly become a bad player.

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‘ Passengers ‘ Joe ?..
Is that a euphemism for ‘ not fit for purpose ‘..
Never seen as many aimless passes which caused the ball to come straight back at our defenders for a long time !.
Some in this team are devoid of talent and skill and will just not do .
The result was inevitable.

( in my humble opinion of course ! ). :cool:

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That's putting it politely Alan

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Not surprisingly, given the relative wealth of the clubs, there was a division’s difference between the two sides. Stanley’s defence did really well to hold them off but, after conceding what looked like a soft goal, the result was inevitable.

Could anyone please get a false positive PCR test and get a fortnight’s rest for the team? :rolleyes:

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Rodgers, Nottingham, Hughes, Burgess, Barclay, McConville, Smyth, Charles and Butcher who came on would all get in the 18 so I presume Morgan, Phillips and Savin must be the " passengers "

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They were better all over the pitch tonight and on the bench as well. Not surprising really given the player budgets. Don't think that Sunderland team would fair too well in the Championship......but then it will have load of money thrown at it. A real opportunity for Lee Johnson to further his carreer next season when they go up.

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I,ll just leave this here Stanley's wage bill £1490000 approximately Mageady,s salary £988,000 a year.

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It's the same every week. Tonight is just an extreme case. I'm not surprised at the result. Our performance was better tonight. We were poor around their box and couldn't finish the few chances we created. We need our injured players back available before we can expect to win games. They kept Dion very quiet and well marshalled. Phillips has adjusted to this level yet and Morgan is too slow at the moment. Butcher is a real talent. Savin will get better. Very poor marking for both goals......our defenders need a good coaching session.........just thoughts. A few more points will see us safe, but looking at the run in we wo 't have many chances to get them...

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When their keeper hasn't a save to make the problem lies in creativity Smyth did everything right bar hit the target Rodgers header in between the posts and it's a goal different outcome, can't keep blaming injuries but they do have an impact on any team. Morgan has been asked after jumping the league's to run midfield missing Pritchard, Conneelly, Butcher and Uwakawe big ask showed glimpses of what he can do with a couple of decent through passes and his link up with Rodgers when he broke into the box and shot again off target. So it's easy to criticize players especially those coming in but upto the gifted goal we matched Sunderland apart from working the keeper, maybe a slight change to formation going forward might help and more use of the channels.

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I only hope young Toby Savin doesn't bother visiting the forum after last nights defeat to Sunderland.
The attempts by some to blame him for the result are both unfair & ludicrous.
Funny, but I always thought there were 10 other players in the team?
Where were they when the goals went in, having tea-break perhaps?
The first goal - a freakishly high header, would have evaded a giant octopus.
On the second, he was clearly impeded by one of their players.
None of our attempts were on target. Had they been, the result might have been different.
Last nights result was not the fault of one individual, the reason was simple.
THE BEST TEAM WON!
It happens more often than you think...... Lets get used to it!

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Don't think anyone is blaming Toby for the defeat but to say it wasn't saveable when he tipped an almost identical back header over is daft it was a mistake one of numerous made last night by players on both sides, goalie errors usually cost you a goal we didn't work their keeper if we had the result could have been different we move on losing like winning is a habit we need to turn it around, nobody knows apart from medical staff when any player from the casualty list will be back and when they are no guarantees they hit the form button straight away the lads that are picked need a result to boost them and us.

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do not rate rodgers, morgan or phillips for that matter. at the moment savin is a second choice keeper. in fact you could see the first 3 quite easily playing for someone like southport or altrincham sooner rather than later. its not their fault, they are what they are and you cannot expect em to be part of a team that constantly wins games againt sides in division 1.

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Rodgers is a good enough utility player and Morgan has done well in my view.
Phillips has been poor.

We can't have a squad of 25 who are all first choice league 1 players.
The cost would be unaffordable, the dynamics wouldn't work and the morale would cause divisions within the squad which could undermine what ASFC is all about.

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Phillips is a strange one youth carreer at Blackburn then Liverpool been at Norwich now at Burnley, also represented England at under 16, and 17 level plenty must see something in him another that's come into a side that isn't performing.

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but we could have a 20 man squad though. ok you might have to put kids on the bench or play em in a dire emergency. would they be any worse than some of the squad who would never get into another division 1 side or in fact division 2 for that matter. even some out injured like sama you could put in that catogary also.

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Thing is we have that.
I'm confident majority of our '2nd string' would comfortably fill in a scenario where it's one or 2 of them.
Problem we have is it's 6 players having to step in at once.

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Well said Josh my point exactly about Morgan throw in at the deep end, been here before about squad depth doesn't change budget , to have a Magready in our squad we would have 19 players on a pittance, hard job to pick players at the bargain basement end Coley does it time and again.

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Toby Savin was having a great season up to the point where he was replaced by Baxter, which was inevitably going to happen soon after the latter joined us. Since then he's had virtually no proper game time, which you must need to keep sharp. And when the call came again, he had to step up and step in behind a defence which is, shall we charitably say, beginning to show the strains of a long hard season. As an ex-member of the goalkeepers' union, I have nothing but sympathy for him.

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Im on my own here but I think Accrington Stanley gave Sunderland a run for their money . We stuck to it and never gave up .I thoroughly enjoyed it and keep it up lads . You can hold your heads up high despite coming second in the game.

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sorry greeny but we did not have one shot on target thats not a run for their money to me. its simply down to too many injuries of our squad in my eyes.

You took the words right out of my mouth.....
 

It is at times like this that I wish I had the literary skills of Yonmon, which would allow me to make quotes and references to Jim Steinman ;)

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And just to clarify, I agree with this chap ;)

:) :) :)

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A crippling injury list, lowest budget in league 1 50 points with 12 games to go missing chances that at this level you pay the price but Sunderland looked anything but special ordinary in fact we can certainly hold our heads high.

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but did sunderland have something left in them if a problem did arise. i for one with the players at their disposal thought they,d be better. was it a case that they didn,t need to be on the night.