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VALAIRIAN 02-08-2021 10:58

Season ahead??
 
The dawn of our 16th Football League campaign is almost upon us and I was just wondering what the views of others are, with regards to our formation and also our XI?

I know that things change depending on the opposition Etc. - but in the main - Coley always likes a system and always likes a settled XI.

We must be due a good run in a cup, which will help us with ££££.

Thoughts please Ladies and Gentlemen :)

:) :) :)

andyd 02-08-2021 11:05

Re: Season ahead??
 
Good cup run are down to getting the results first and then hopefully a club that will attract home or away money in the coffers, team selection depends on what formation Coley chooses but I think Nottingham, Burgess, Conneelly and Pritchard are probably the first 4 written on the team sheet. With what on paper looks like a competitive squad hopefully those with the shirt will produce or they are replaced.

Twenty Eight 02-08-2021 11:08

Re: Season ahead??
 
Trafford
Nottingham Sykes Burgess
McConville Butcher Pell O'Sullivan
Pritchard
Bishop Charles

Conneely for Burgess when fit.

Twenty Eight 02-08-2021 11:14

Re: Season ahead??
 
Might be an issue for Coley up top though with the window not closing until 31/8.
If Dion gets off to a flyer in particular ......... but its an inverted compliment to the club that some of our lads are potential targets.

cashman 02-08-2021 12:43

Re: Season ahead??
 
to me Sean Mac has not been the same player since his injury, certainly still not there in the 3 friendlies i have seen so i would omit him until he gets his game back.

choirboy 02-08-2021 14:52

Re: Season ahead??
 
Assuming that all players are fully fit, my choice of formation and players would be……..

Trafford
Sykes Nottingham Burgess
Coneely
O’Sullivan Pell Butcher Pritchard
Bishop Charles

I regard my choice of formation as an attacking set up.
The two key players for me in this set up would be O’Sullivan and Pritchard.
Both lads would have to be highly mobile, retreating as defensive wing backs when we are being attacked, in order to make a defensive line of four or five. This would allow Sykes or Burgess to go more central in support of Nottingham.
However, when we are on the attack the same two would be getting forward as proper wingers making four in attack and with midfielders supporting centrally too. Also I would give the same two lads a clear instruction to get outside and behind their opposing full backs with the ball, in order to get into the penalty box right up to the opponents goal line and then pull the ball back towards the penalty spot. Pritchard would be my choice to take free kicks and corners and Bishop would take penalties!
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

andyd 02-08-2021 15:05

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1255640)
Assuming that all players are fully fit, my choice of formation and players would be……..

Trafford
Sykes Nottingham Burgess
Coneely
O’Sullivan Pell Butcher Pritchard
Bishop Charles

I regard my choice of formation as an attacking set up.
The two key players for me in this set up would be O’Sullivan and Pritchard.
Both lads would have to be highly mobile, retreating as defensive wing backs when we are being attacked, in order to make a defensive line of four or five. This would allow Sykes or Burgess to go more central in support of Nottingham.
However, when we are on the attack the same two would be getting forward as proper wingers making four in attack and with midfielders supporting centrally too. Also I would give the same two lads a clear instruction to get outside and behind their opposing full backs with the ball, in order to get into the penalty box right up to the opponents goal line and then pull the ball back towards the penalty spot. Pritchard would be my choice to take free kicks and corners and Bishop would take penalties!
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

That choirboy is close to most fans starting 11 just one concern about 2 attack minded wing backs is the defending element, Pritchard wasn't bad O, Sullivan we will have to see, Harvey Rodgers is the other option because last season he grew into the role defencivly he was excellent and he was improving going forward, good choices to have though.

choirboy 02-08-2021 15:08

Re: Season ahead??
 
ps. We will need to very strong at centre back in our first match at Wycombe as they have signed Sam Vokes, formerly of Burnley and a Welsh International! Stanley will need to mark him closely but also stifle the supply of passes to him!

choirboy 02-08-2021 15:17

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1255641)
That choirboy is close to most fans starting 11 just one concern about 2 attack minded wing backs is the defending element, Pritchard wasn't bad O, Sullivan we will have to see, Harvey Rodgers is the other option because last season he grew into the role defencivly he was excellent and he was improving going forward, good choices to have though.

I take your point to some degree andyd. My only doubt here is that O’Sullivan tends to slide in to tackles on his bum which raises his studs and referees will readily give free kicks against him! Good coaching can cure this, he needs to be taught to stay on his feet in the tackle. I really like Rogers but for me he is a much better defender than when he is going forward. Rogers would be my first choice substitute though. Sean Mac used to be a very good ‘Wing Back’ as he was very mobile, could tackle and would take on opposing full backs both inside cutting in and outside getting to the goal line. IMHO …….Since his very bad injury he hasn’t been the same player in any of these areas.

andyd 02-08-2021 16:19

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1255642)
ps. We will need to very strong at centre back in our first match at Wycombe as they have signed Sam Vokes, formerly of Burnley and a Welsh International! Stanley will need to mark him closely but also stifle the supply of passes to him!

Sam Vokes is very similar to Charlie Wyke lay it on a plate for him he,ll score your right need to limit his supply.

monkey hanger 03-08-2021 08:41

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1255639)
to me Sean Mac has not been the same player since his injury, certainly still not there in the 3 friendlies i have seen so i would omit him until he gets his game back.

possibly he might be a bit wary of fully stretching himself in games that do not really matter. think we,ll get the answer once the season starts and he gets on the pitch. always remember he is not getting younger and not everyone is an ellison.

Twenty Eight 03-08-2021 09:42

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1255640)
Assuming that all players are fully fit, my choice of formation and players would be……..

Trafford
Sykes Nottingham Burgess
Coneely
O’Sullivan Pell Butcher Pritchard
Bishop Charles

I regard my choice of formation as an attacking set up.
The two key players for me in this set up would be O’Sullivan and Pritchard.
Both lads would have to be highly mobile, retreating as defensive wing backs when we are being attacked, in order to make a defensive line of four or five. This would allow Sykes or Burgess to go more central in support of Nottingham.
However, when we are on the attack the same two would be getting forward as proper wingers making four in attack and with midfielders supporting centrally too. Also I would give the same two lads a clear instruction to get outside and behind their opposing full backs with the ball, in order to get into the penalty box right up to the opponents goal line and then pull the ball back towards the penalty spot. Pritchard would be my choice to take free kicks and corners and Bishop would take penalties!
ON STANLEY ON:theband:

Seamus won't be recovered in time for Saturday mate.

Twenty Eight 03-08-2021 09:45

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1255637)
Trafford
Nottingham Sykes Burgess
McConville Butcher Pell O'Sullivan
Pritchard
Bishop Charles

Conneely for Burgess when fit.

I've just realised ......... Conneely for Butcher that should have said !

cashman 03-08-2021 09:58

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1255658)
possibly he might be a bit wary of fully stretching himself in games that do not really matter. think we,ll get the answer once the season starts and he gets on the pitch. always remember he is not getting younger and not everyone is an ellison.

he looks a bit overweight to me?

Chewbacca 03-08-2021 10:10

Re: Season ahead??
 
I would have Savin over Trafford, I think they will both get games until one emerges as clear first choice and I reckon it is Savin this season.

I think Mumbongo will feature more after a few games and end up top scorer.

cashman 03-08-2021 10:36

Re: Season ahead??
 
agree about mumbongo though not about savin, both good keepers but to me trafford has the edge.

maccawozzagod 03-08-2021 10:53

Re: Season ahead??
 
Savin

Nottingham Sykes Burgess (not Dave)


Conneely Butcher



Rogers Pell Pritchard


Bishop Umbongo

Twenty Eight 03-08-2021 11:33

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1255671)
Savin

Nottingham Sykes Burgess (not Dave)


Conneely Butcher



Rogers Pell Pritchard


Bishop Umbongo

Are you assuming Charles is on his way mate ?

maccawozzagod 03-08-2021 12:31

Re: Season ahead??
 
Nah, I've benched him ��

AccyMad 03-08-2021 12:39

Re: Season ahead??
 
I'd go :
Savin

Nottingham, Sykes, Burgess, Rodgers

Pritchard, Butcher, Conneely, McConville (Morgan/Pell in place of Seamus till he's fit)

Bishop, Charles

VALAIRIAN 03-08-2021 12:42

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1255671)
Savin

Nottingham Sykes Burgess (not Dave)


Conneely Butcher



Rogers Pell Pritchard


Bishop Umbongo

Macca and Jonno as impact subs mate?

:) :)

maccawozzagod 03-08-2021 14:58

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1255677)
Macca and Jonno as impact subs mate?

:) :)

Yes matey. I'm not a huge fan of Jonno, hope he can prove me wrong though. Sean is still an important player for us and his character round the club is massive - but pitchside I'm going for balance first.

Umbongo could be huge for us if he gets off to a good start so I'm starting him above Dion - doubt Coley will though

The Red Darreners 03-08-2021 15:54

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1255684)
Yes matey. I'm not a huge fan of Jonno, hope he can prove me wrong though. Sean is still an important player for us and his character round the club is massive - but pitchside I'm going for balance first.

Umbongo could be huge for us if he gets off to a good start so I'm starting him above Dion - doubt Coley will though


From where we were sat Jonno was our best - and hungriest- player on Saturday - especially 2nd half. I was pleasantly surprised and really hope he can keep it up.

choirboy 03-08-2021 16:23

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight (Post 1255664)
Seamus won't be recovered in time for Saturday mate.

That’s why I started with my opening phrase…….
Quote.
“Assuming that all players are fully fit, my choice of formation and players would be……..”
I think that Valarian was after our ideas of our preferred choice of players/squad for the early part of the season with the players/squad that we have available now. Not just to pick a team for Saturday v Wycombe.
I was aware that Seamus is not fully fit and that he would not be available for Saturday.

Valarian’s title for this post is:
“Season ahead??” Not: Selection for first match.

VALAIRIAN 03-08-2021 17:52

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1255635)
The dawn of our 16th Football League campaign is almost upon us and I was just wondering what the views of others are, with regards to our formation and also our XI?

I know that things change depending on the opposition Etc. - but in the main - Coley always likes a system and always likes a settled XI.

We must be due a good run in a cup, which will help us with ££££.

Thoughts please Ladies and Gentlemen :)

:) :) :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1255688)
That’s why I started with my opening phrase…….
Quote.
“Assuming that all players are fully fit, my choice of formation and players would be……..”
I think that Valarian was after our ideas of our preferred choice of players/squad for the early part of the season with the players/squad that we have available now. Not just to pick a team for Saturday v Wycombe.
I was aware that Seamus is not fully fit and that he would not be available for Saturday.

Valarian’s title for this post is:
“Season ahead??” Not: Selection for first match.

Choirboy - my good friend - you are spot on ;)

Hope to be seeing you on the 14th...... it has been a while :eek:

:) :) :)

VALAIRIAN 03-08-2021 17:54

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 1255684)
Yes matey. I'm not a huge fan of Jonno, hope he can prove me wrong though. Sean is still an important player for us and his character round the club is massive - but pitchside I'm going for balance first.

Umbongo could be huge for us if he gets off to a good start so I'm starting him above Dion - doubt Coley will though

Agree about Jonno mate, had some very good games in his first spell, but since then, flattered to deceive........

We shall have to wait and see :)

:) :) :)

andyd 03-08-2021 18:02

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by choirboy (Post 1255688)
That’s why I started with my opening phrase…….
Quote.
“Assuming that all players are fully fit, my choice of formation and players would be……..”
I think that Valarian was after our ideas of our preferred choice of players/squad for the early part of the season with the players/squad that we have available now. Not just to pick a team for Saturday v Wycombe.
I was aware that Seamus is not fully fit and that he would not be available for Saturday.

Valarian’s title for this post is:
“Season ahead??” Not: Selection for first match.

Good post Choirboy I think after last season the expectation bar among fans has risen, very understandable but with fans back in stadiums thank the lord it will along with some tough sides being relegated among them Wycombe be a tough league. Coley has brought in a lot of signings this Summer a big emphasis on younger players mainly looking to the future, but also looking at playing some of them I hope. Less loannees so far which I like but with players with the pedigree of Hardy and Mumbongo the pressure on the front two will be to deliver the goals. Nobody apart from Barclay has left yet but a while in the transfer window to go I will be very surprised if at least one doesn't go hopefully not but it looks on paper like a well balanced squad and hopefully it will be used towards a successful season.

StanleyJosh 03-08-2021 18:49

Re: Season ahead??
 
My choice would be... (reckon Coley will go 5-3-2 with Trafford in goal, Pell or O'Sullivan for Conneely at start then poss for Butcher)

Savin
Rodgers Notts Sykes Burgess
Conneely Butcher
Pritchard Charles McConville
Bishop

Subs - Trafford, Procter, O'Sullivan, Pell, Leigh, Morgan, Mumbongo

cashman 04-08-2021 10:42

Re: Season ahead??
 
my choice is Trafford, rodgers. nottingham,sykes,burgess, pell,butcher, pritchard,bishop,munbongo,charles, have left out conneely only cos i dont think he will be ready,

VALAIRIAN 19-11-2021 17:14

Season upon us......
 
How do we think/feel after the first(ish)third of the season???

:) :) :)

Exile on Spencer St 19-11-2021 18:07

Re: Season ahead??
 
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VALAIRIAN 19-11-2021 19:26

Re: Season ahead??
 
Fantastic :D

AccyMad 20-11-2021 18:12

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1259646)
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Standard Stanley season then :D

monkey hanger 21-11-2021 10:02

Re: Season ahead??
 
early FA Cup defeat and the bad run after it till christmas.

VALAIRIAN 03-01-2022 09:40

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1255635)
The dawn of our 16th Football League campaign is almost upon us and I was just wondering what the views of others are, with regards to our formation and also our XI?

I know that things change depending on the opposition Etc. - but in the main - Coley always likes a system and always likes a settled XI.

We must be due a good run in a cup, which will help us with ££££.

Thoughts please Ladies and Gentlemen :)

:) :) :)

Just about the halfway stage of the season, so I just thought I would re-visit this :)

Cannot say that I am too disappointed, though I had hoped we would have been nearer the top :)

That 'cup run' still eludes us and we had chances this season.

Performances have - in the main - been up and down, we have lacked consistency.

Over the years under Coley, we have had strong finishes to the season - here is hoping :)


:) :)

VALAIRIAN 03-01-2022 09:41

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1259646)
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#31


Summed up well ;)

:) :) :)

monkey hanger 03-01-2022 10:12

Re: Season ahead??
 
anything in the top half of the league can be classed as a decent finish. few more months of surprise results both way round.

cashman 03-01-2022 10:44

Re: Season ahead??
 
consistency is what it is, i have been watching stanley first match was 1953 feb or march? i have never seen a better squad than this, if we mastered consistency we would WALK this division in my view, and by the way i was a big Walt Galbraith Fan.

andyd 03-01-2022 10:49

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262112)
consistency is what it is, i have been watching stanley first match was 1953 feb or march? i have never seen a better squad than this, if we mastered consistency we would WALK this division in my view,

Good assessment of the current squad Cashy built on a league 1 lower end budget I personally think the standard in this league this year is quite good so a push for the playoffs could involve any number of teams currently in mid table who put a run together, could be Stanley.

monkey hanger 04-01-2022 10:22

Re: Season ahead??
 
not being consistant is why stanley and a few others are mid table. at least its better than being consistant like donny rovers are.

cashman 04-01-2022 12:46

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1262150)
not being consistant is why stanley and a few others are mid table. at least its better than being consistant like donny rovers are.

and i would think Donny have better resources than us. but they aint got a management duo like ours.

MikeA 04-01-2022 14:25

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262158)
and i would think Donny have better resources than us. but they aint got a management duo like ours.

Is it a trio, these days?

cashman 04-01-2022 14:31

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeA (Post 1262159)
Is it a trio, these days?

possibly.

monkey hanger 05-01-2022 10:47

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262158)
and i would think Donny have better resources than us. but they aint got a management duo like ours.

or one thats a good fit with their club.

VALAIRIAN 16-04-2022 09:15

Re: Season just ending??
 
Well, season is almost over and to be honest not lived up to expectations - in my opinion....

Thought that we had kept most of the key players and added good ones in Pell and Hamilton :)

We had a decent home run in the middle third of the season, away form has been terrible :(

We should have most of the current squad at the start of next season - not including loans.

Maybe the experience of this season, will help them next season :)

Another season in League one is a great result, but I just expected more :)


:) :)

Crown Grounder 16-04-2022 10:24

Re: Season ahead??
 
All in all a decent season considering the blend of young hungry players in the squad. The change this season of moving away from reliance on loans to having more "own" players and a full U23 team has been difficult. Coley hasn't been able to find the right blend, either due to injuries and the Charles debacle. He still hasn't found a partnership up front to replace Bishop and Charles. Our performance next season will depend on how the new and new young lads improve after this season's experience in League One. Also, we need 2 senior keepers AT ALL TIMES. We don't want to repeat what's happened this season since Trafford was recalled.

cashman 16-04-2022 10:43

Re: Season ahead??
 
to me we aint had a bad season, plenty young uns added think this season hopefully has learnt em.bought my new season ticket long ago and am looking forward to the new season.with our resources i think we done great.

Chimer 16-04-2022 13:22

Re: Season ahead??
 
It was a season of three halves (:confused:) for me, unsurprising given we were as always under-resourced compared to the competition. Firstly over-performance aided by a friendly early fixture list making us look plausible promotion contenders :D, then reality beginning to bite but a few standout performances keeping us hopeful :), and finally running out of gas to the point where we were looking nervously :eek: over our shoulders (well I was anyway).

And obviously the Dion Charles saga didn't help one little bit :(. Don't suppose we'll ever know what really happened, though I'm sure some will claim to know all but decline to share :rolleyes:

cashman 16-04-2022 13:34

Re: Season ahead??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 1266052)
It was a season of three halves (:confused:) for me, unsurprising given we were as always under-resourced compared to the competition. Firstly over-performance aided by a friendly early fixture list making us look plausible promotion contenders :D, then reality beginning to bite but a few standout performances keeping us hopeful :), and finally running out of gas to the point where we were looking nervously :eek: over our shoulders (well I was anyway).

And obviously the Dion Charles saga didn't help one little bit :(. Don't suppose we'll ever know what really happened, though I'm sure some will claim to know all but decline to share :rolleyes:

WELL i was told yesterday that Bolton have had some trouble with him wanting more money? dunno if thats correct but i hope it is.


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