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Cannot believe that there is not a thread - even at 20:00 :eek:

So, what have people who went to the game got to say??

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I've seen us worse.
Didnt take our chances.
Got the impression Plymouth comfortable.
Worried for rest of season.
No Hot Vimto on sale don't bode well for rest of
Season.

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i looked when i got home was glad there was none to be honest.

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Not a lot.
Stanley played poorly, and hardly ever ran into space behind the defenders. Too often insisted on intricate, short passing in tight situations were their skill level eventually let’s them down.
Plymouth bored me to death playing across the back three constantly, but they pressed Stanley everywhere, whereas Stanley stood off their central defenders until they strolled past the half way line.
For Plymouth, two crap goals gifted, one excellent strike and a simple header.
For Stanley, one good goal but little else in attack.
Same score, but thought Wigan were a much better outfit.

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I concur but just want to mention how hard work it was to get to the loo at half time - great to see a good gate but stressful on the bladder :)

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Firstly it was a wonderful Service of Remembrance before the match commenced, impeccably observed by all supporters in the ground. :rose8:With another great flag produced by The Ultras over the Clayton End goalmouth.:rose8:
Well Joe, I believe that the 1-4 score line was not a true reflection of the performances of either team. I honestly thought that Stanley were unlucky today to end up with that scoreline. I thought that at half time the score should have been level. Plymouth’s first goal, an own goal, was unlucky as Hamilton was expecting more of a physical challenge and perhaps for a moment he took his eye off the ball and it hit either his head or shoulder! And where did it go? Looping over Toby and into the net somewhat flukishly. The second goal came after the referee wrongly awarded a throw in to Plymouth which looked like it should have been given to Stanley. Then in the progression into our penalty box there was a helpful, to Plymouth, slight deflection which was followed by a good narrow angled finish. As we kicked off for the second half I thought that if we could get the early goal that we could still get something out of the match. We got the goal after just five minutes which was a well constructed team effort and it was good to see young Tommy Leigh finishing the move.:theband:
Had we got the next goal I honestly believe that we could have gone on to win the match or at least hold them to a draw!
The referee seemed to make some dodgy decisions at this stage, booking Leigh for winning a header by being stronger than his opponent. "After this Leigh had to play with restraint which allowed their midfield more time on the ball. The other young lad Coyle had been superb and was a revelation for Stanley but with Leigh playing a more reserved game he got a bit overrun. Especially by the best player on the pitch…IMHO Plymouth’s number 7, Broom, who then showed his class with the goal of the match, a super solo curling twenty five yard shot! The fourth goal came after we tried our substitutions but we had lost our shape a bit and Plymouth were playing with much more confidence at this stage.
I think there were a number of positives to take out of today’s match; the performance of the two young starters, Leigh and Coyle. I also thought that Rogers return was very encouraging as he was pretty solid and good going forward too. It was encouraging to see a good home turn out of support of around 2,400.:theband:
We go again next Saturday at home to another big club in Sheffield Wednesday but I do believe that this is a match that we can win!:theband:
ON STANLEY ON!:theband:
KEEP THE FAITH!:theband:

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In football there are the leaders and there are the also-rans.
For the first 20 minutes, I was at a loss to understand how Argyle are leading the race for promotion.
After 90 minutes the difference became crystal clear.
Leaders Plymouth didn't need to break sweat to claim the points against a Stanley side rapidly becoming the also-rans.
Argyle didn't dominate the game as Wigan did, but they still possessed enough speed & skill to overcome a Stanley team lacking all the qualities required to succeed.
Disorganised, lacking confidence & devoid of creativity, Stanley's performance was both predictable & pedestrian.
Apart from a brief spell at the start of the 2nd half when we managed to score, we showed all the attributes of a team in free-fall.
The remembrance service conducted prior to kick-off in front of what appeared to be almost a full house was a real credit to the club, ASSC, Royal British Legion & both sets of fans, whose silent observance was exemplary.
Such a shame the game was one not worthy of remembrance.

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i thought coming towards goal we rarely closed a player down which certainly did not help overall we only were on top for about 10- 15 mins that says it all to me.

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their 3rd goal was the real killer though. seems a long time since august when there was so much positivity around the place. looking seriously now from the bottom upwards and work needs doing in january. a few players out stanley look second best.

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My worry is Coley keeps saying we are a good side can't agree we are good in very small patches far too often reverting to the long ball good sides are consistent, and a quick point on players missing we have a senior squad of 26 Sama and Charles never feature and Perritt on loan, Hardy, Sherring, Clarke hardly picked, that leaves 4 who didn't feature yesterday Morgan, Butcher, Bishop and Pritchard are the ones who would normally play surely these 4 don't make the difference between a side like yesterday and one that would win the game

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To add to the last post one up front doesn't suit our play either that tempts the long punt to whoever has the unenviable role of the holding the line striker, a striker or two are there to score not in my opinion just to hold the line.

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you can add charles to that list to make 5. thats nearly half a side missing and if pell had been out that would be arguably 4 out of our best players missing with a side only a shadow of the one that started the season.

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Got say say Andy that Colby and Joe are massive misses for us!

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Footy is such a strange game................. :)

I stood with my good friend Choirboy and at half time whilst we discussed the game, he remarked that other people in the ground, would no doubt have seen the game differently to us :)

Reading the previous posts from attendees, he was correct :)

Greavsie was spot on ;)

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That is what makes the game of Football so interesting Joe. If it were not so then it would be just too predictable and become boring! Luck is a big factor in the game and at 2-1 down and during those goal mouth melees, had Stanley managed to convert just one of those chances the result could have been so different!
It is good for supporters to have different opinions in post match forums such as this. When done respectfully and courteously, as has been the case since Saturday, then forums like this work successfully.
KEEP THE FAITH:jimbo:

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There lies a lot of the problems we are facing at present Choirboy being clinical Infront of goal, it is not all down to bad luck some was just downright poor finishing. Saturday for example Mansell should have buried his header no one shoving him clear header good contact wrong direction sums a lot up for me.

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The header wasn't his only glaring miss.
He was put through free 1 on 1 with their keeper & managed to fire it well wide of the target.
His blushes were spared thanks to the offside flag.

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Exactly my point and I ain't picking on Mansell this has been a problem all season by a host of players missing chances, target and indecision is costing games not bad luck, there is an element of luck and our bad luck is in the casualty department too many injured and threadbare squad to pick from not helped by the disgraceful Charles scenario pay him up and get rid bring someone in January who would give their right arm to play.

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I thought Liam Coyle had a great debut and Tommy Leigh had a great game also - full debut I think? :)

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Its simple.
We are league one.
These lads are making massive step ups and sadly some are not up to it.
Investment in the team has been poor - too many gambles.
I'm not going to regurgitate previous threads its pointless.
By all means improve the bar and facilities - but don't moan if that's where the cash goes.
Accrington is a unique club.
Not many fans at other clubs would accept that.
Back off before you start.
No I'm not local.
Only been a fan since 2015.
However - no time to moan if Mansell makes a few errors.
Keep your anger for Charles and stop blaming his Agent.
He's a grown man acting like a 10 year old.
Personally I hope he ends up unemployed.

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Investment by John has been poor I presume you mean because if I,m not mistaken the budget was slightly increased correct me if I am wrong, agree to a point but some decent individuals signed we just don't play as a team and personally think certain players are out of position and playing in roles alien to them Pell an example.

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The Charles scenario I agree with you on that one twenty eight he his ruining his own career don't know the ins and outs but by still being at the club just hope he isn't bending any other players ears with whatever. Need rid asap., IMHO and move on from him.

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Surely time for a little perspective here.
Firstly, football is in the entertainment business & those who actually pay to attend are entitled to praise or criticise the performance.
Yes! We are in League 1, a fact which continues to defy all the laws of economics. And we're there for only 2 reasons;
1. We have the best Chairman in the EFL, who's brilliant stewardship has transformed a tin-pot ground into one we now own, with hot running water in the toilets. A club which despite the financial burden of poor gates, is one of only a handful to return a profit.
2. We have a manager prepared to work with extremely limited resources few others would accept. Not for him the luxury of signing expensive prima donna's. Stanley is the last-chance saloon for rejects who love the game & feel they still have something to offer, or young players with something to prove.
For John Coleman, every season is a gamble in a poker game with barely a pair in his hand, cobbling together a squad made up of loanees & free transfers in the hope that his team of journeymen can survive another season competing against the likes of Sunderland, Portsmouth, Wigan, Ipswich et al.
Despite all the restraints, the fact that we've survived so long in L1 is something of a football miracle, but it won't stop us from moaning when we miss a sitter, or rejoicing when we thrash Sheffield Wednesday.
Long may it continue.

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theres been 2 different perspectives on this which people are entitled to give,so dont see a problem with it!

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The budget set by our Chairman is we believe one that the club can work with without stretching the club and going in the red, development,s off the pitch have nothing to do with the budget and are funded by whatever clever accounting Andy,s team work out. When all the work is finally completed we will have a stadium and pitch envious of a lot of clubs while remaining solvent if we are still in league 1 it will be great because finally there will be a team and stadium to be proud of.

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This analysis by Lord S sums up so well how the club runs.
On Reason 1 ‘Good Management’ is a continuum of good practices. Resulting in an improved ground infrastructure and Match Day protocols. Also ensures that the club is moving in the right direction financially.
On Reason 2 As Lord S is trying to explain. Even the best planning, coaching and procurement of good players simply cannot guarantee continued success. Injuries, suspensions, occasional refereeing decisions, pure bad luck and simply better opponents like Plymouth make this impossible.
I think we all agree that Andy Holt has done amazing things at Stanley. IMHO so has John Coleman, Jimmy, John D and the coaching staff too.
Spot on Lord S!:mosher:

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think you are similar to me as for not being local and found stanley later than others. could be the reason for a different outlook to those who have only ever known their local club. as for charles, the years he had in non league should have shown him there is a good reason to quickly grow up. Could easily end up back there and makes you wonder if that was the reason he ended up with all those seasons down there anyway. its not always about players ability every time.

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It shows 😂😂

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👏👏👏👏

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And as if by magic to confirm the point monkey hanger here comes Mr post every six months Miller.

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And he has posted more than you, hes a very busy fellow,

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“Oor Wullie” Miller does more for Stanley, in his six monthly ‘absences’ from the Accy web, than any one of us who spends time regularly posting comments.
Leave it out, 28, you’re revealing more than you think.

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Agree 100%

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Spot on top lad Willie will like me hopefully will still be around when certain players have moved on oops😁👍

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true but many know alls know nowt i reckon.

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I’ve had a think, 28 is right. Forget ground improvements. Return ASFC to £6k a week matchday turnover and spend anything we can on couple journeyman ex Prem stars

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And when has that ever been said Sir ?
However read what many have said on here.
Do you accept that SOME I stress SOME of the recent signings (including loanees and I don't mean just this season) just aren't good enough ?
Is that caused by a tight budget or poor scouting ?
I've made it clear and will repeat I've been a home and away supporter since 2015 and loved the ride.
That is waaaaay less than many on here.
Now this might appear controversial but let's give it a go.
Where is the balance between facilities and the product on the pitch?
We have been crying out for a left back for three seasons.
It's patently obvious to everyone in the stands but it hasn't happened.
Why ?
Budget restrictions ?
We've allowed Clark Barclay Hughes to leave.
Why?
Budget restrictions ?
If you ask me as a short term fan do I want to see a posh bar rather than signings ?
Not really - but at which point does the balance tilt ?
By all means the old posters will call upon the history and we're grateful for being where we are and to some extent I agree with that.
However do you think the future (the younger fans) are remotely interested in that ?
Maybe - maybe not.
I'm not in this for controversy but to make a sarcastic comment like that Sir is unfounded.
Stand by for all the disgruntled to rally around Willie but just remember post history is easily retrieved.

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Careful Andy your post history might bite you on the arse.
So suddenly you're happy ?

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I've stopped posting as much Cashy because as soon as you become controversial you become the black pariah. Even Lord Stiff has copped for it of late.

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Going on about allowing players to leave can be viewed two ways advancing their careers or money over the years many have left upto Andy Holt coming in sometimes nearly entire squad,s, just after Andy came in a novice in his own words to the world of football Windass and IMHO the best midfielder we've had Crooks walking for nothing, Pearson went the list is endless but at least with Jackson, Mccarten and Burgess we got some money and with the excellent Donician agree said it enough left back has been a problem going back to Jacobson, but the club even commentary teams and opposing fans say the place is unrecognisable to just a few years ago. The team this year his struggling and has had injuries but if Coley keeps them up job done and we move on and some promising youngsters coming through and some old guard probably going in the summer. Not bothered about historical posts biting me in the arse it's a forum of opinions about privaliged individual,s kicking a bag of wind about things I worry about are real day to day living not what people think about me on here have a nice day every one ��

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thank goodness the actual match experiance at the wham is far better than the experiances we have all had on here at sometime or another. was made welcome on my first ever visit back in 2009. always feel on here that longer you have supported the club then the more patient others seem to be with each other.

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i have been called controversial quite a few times it dont reduce my posting i couldnt give a stuff, everyone has their own opinion in a forum. imho

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Controversial Cashy has quite a ring to it 😁

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Only controversial Cashy? I think some have been less flattering than that :D Doesn't matter - you keep on being you, I'd be worried if you weren't

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Twenty Eight and all

There's already a few inaccuracies in recent post;

Matty C and Josh W didn't leave for "nothing" We received FIFA training compensation which was a tidy sum. Not as much as we would have liked but we signed them both for nowt.

We also got more money from Josh when he moved back to Wigan via the FIFA system

Clicker, Yosser and Ben all chose not to accept the offers of extending their contract that the club made in writing. Very sure they all left to earn a lot more money.

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Nicely put

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How football has changed !!!
Remember the players not getting paid for three months and still nearly getting in the play-offs ( still blame Granty and Symsey for getting their heads turned lol )
That in a nutshell is Coles strength.
A lot harder to manage better quality players and i think Coley will ride the storm and become an even better manager