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taking a gamble here and committing to this one early! never started one of these match threads so you’ll either be begging for my return if we win…. Or banishing me off to somewhere grim like Morecambe if we lose!

I’m guessing one change tonight in Kody for Seamus (or Butcher, but will probably be Seamus) - don’t think Yabs is fit enough just yet after his illness.

Hoping we are a bit quicker on the ball tonight than Saturday, wouldn’t mind another half like the first half vs Cambridge if we can manage to put the ball into the back on the net! Even if it ends up going in off Colby’s shoulder or Sean’s backside (now now those at the back!)

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Should revert to 4-3-3 concentration for 90+ minutes :-
Savin.
Clark. Nottingham. Baghaleu. Rodgers.
Liegh. Butcher. Hamilton.
Adedoyin. Bishop. McConville.
Subs :- Isherwood. Pell . Morgan. Conneely. Longelo. Lewis. Nolan.

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I hope we start with Colby and Kody up or near the front as we are running out of games for them to "click" this season........

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Not a great first half from Stanley........mostly long balls and knock downs, players not at their best.....0-0 HT

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No football been played in the first half...
Aimless booting the ball up into the sky and running after it when it comes down from both sides !.
Maybe JC will rectify the situation for the next 45 minutes to come ?.
There are no excuses for these shoddy Stanley efforts so far.

( I'm prophet-of- dooming again .. but heigh-ho !)...:cool:

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Here we go again!
58% possession, 15 shots with 7 on target.
But still no goals.
Just waiting for the sucker punch

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It's arrived !... so sloppy again !... no surprise really !.

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Crap!!😔😔

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Rubbish, no pride, no passion, nothing. Had enough. Something needs to change

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Terrible performance. Doncaster fighting for their lives but winning 1-0 and we wait 85 minutes before making a change???

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More defensive ineptitude.. all over now !.
Doncaster were abysmal.. Stanley were worse !.
No midfield.. No leadership... no urgency ...
I expect JC will find something of merit In the performance though.

Reds were well and truly beaten in spite of what the stats say.

( More gloom I know .. but that's all folks ,)... :cool:

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2-0 now utter crap

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Can't wait to hear Coleman's excuses after this fiasco.
Any other club and he'd be down the road.

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We need a better balance in the midfield, we have too many similar players who all want to get forward and play-at would be striker. Very poor midfield balance, no proper link up play, just hoofing it forward and hoping. Very disappointed tonight with the team selection and performance.

The guy watching from Wycombe ahead of Saturday's game is laughing so much...he can't make notes for Gareth....:hehetable

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Dreadful team performance. Doncaster deserved it for their fight in the last 20 minutes. What a waste of an evening.

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Don't think I've ever witnessed a poorer performance. Reminded me of a schoolboy game on a muddy pitch with players wearing divers boots trying to control a balloon. Sorry to say it but it was totally inept and feel for our fellow Stanleyites who made the trip to watch that crap. I'm hiding under the sofa come saturday afternoon.

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No fight no passion no tactics well beaten and deservingly so by a side low on confidence and ability but a desire to win and stay in this league way we are playing we could be pulled into the battle at the bottom, outplayed in midfield defenders nowhere near who they are supposed to be marking similar to the two Morecambe goals letting them get the wrong side of you, upfront ok Bishop gets pulled and shoved which center forward doesn't not good enough with his feet, new lads unconvincing upto now Coley nothing to hide behind this postmatch interview his vast management experience was lacking tonight should have changed it at half time thier defence needed pace running at it and Bishop in the centre instead of drifting one to very quickly forget.

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Well Stanley Josh, I'll get your one way ticket to Morecambe tomorrow..........and never....never ever.....start a match thread again........

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Well said!!!!!!!

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I was at work, so did not watch the game.

From those who did, how can we have 25 shots (more than double theirs) of which, 9 on target (THREE times more than theirs) and still lose to NIL?????

Answers please :)

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The ‘shots’ were scrappy headers, half hearted attempts that were blocked, think the keeper had one save to make and it was straight at him.

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Which midfield would that be CG ?..
Hard to discern if one existed tonight ...
As to a leader to extract some effort from his team ?.. Who would that be ?.
Honestly I hate being critical in any way, but it was difficult to watch tonight !

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Thanks Josh, that is why I am not a fan of 'stats'

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Strange game football Ethan Hamilton is obviously a talent tonight he just wasn't involved one effort which the keeper saved, Liegh still finding his feet at this level lot of involvement but little support, McConville absent apart from poor corners and set pieces Conneely hard to criticize but plays some nice touches but was clearly blowing early second half no explanation why Butcher didn't start but personally thought was a big miss.

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I am sure butcher was in the starting line up? musta been injured in warm up, i thought seamus was not on the bench?

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Kody Adedoyin returned to the starting line-up for the Reds while, after Matt Butcher was injured in the warm-up, Seamus Conneely came into the starting eleven.


From website article :)

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and thats a keeper who has regularly been picking the ball out of the net. in the past we have done well at doncaster and against far better rovers sides than that one. goodness knows when the last time they scored 2 in open play. their last two goals have been penalties. really be glad when this flustrating season is over with stanley being the typical mid table club. some good runs and wins and then some real shockers.

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The co commentator on I follow hit the nail on the head .He said Doncaster were the best team and they were rubbish.

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They were they won all this stats nonsense means nowt ball in the onion bag is the only stat that matters always was and always will be.

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The answer is, probably only 1 ccc.........."clear cut chance"..........Nottinghams header, which was tipped over the bar by their keeper. They also defended quite well around their six yard box.......plenty of bodies. I think the fact we didn't score with all our first half domination gave them a leg-up for the second half. I really don't know why Pell isn't starting. Said with apologies to Lord Stiff......

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Pell is not the issue - in my opinion! :)

But his type are..........

Too many midfielders 'shoehorned' into the side :(

Pell/Sean playing up front alongside Colby for one!

Far too many midfielders and just not enough goal scorers.......

The Dion thing has bitten us big time!!!!!


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Difficult to argue with that, Val.
Just look at the first team faces on the Fishy site.
5 ‘strikers’, one of who is crocked and no longer with the club, one injured since he came and, with another, out on loan trying to get fit. So 2 available strikers, one a young, untested player.
Meanwhile, there are 13 midfielders!

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Do you put that down to bad recruitment or lack of money or unprepared to pay wage demands. and fees for strikers even young under 23,s high up in the pryamid are on ridiculous salaries.

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Hard to say Andy, but we do not need all those midfielders - so that is a bad decision.

We all know about Dion and that hampered us as a) Coley wanted him playing and scoring goals!! b) we had to keep paying him for doing nothing!! c) Whilst Joel was not the finished article, he was OK, but a freak training injury finished him. d) cannot comment about Joe Hardy.

It is as plain as day, we are creating plenty of chances, we just cannot convert them.........

Kayden or Dion and we would be in the play-offs minimum!!!


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Those are not simple alternatives.
The two latter reasons (lack of money and the ludicrous costs trickling down from the money laundering excesses of the Premier League Inc) can inevitably result in what, in hindsight, can be termed as ‘bad’ recruitment.
But that’s like blaming someone for the ‘bad’ decision to live in a cold, draughty house because they can’t afford anything better.
I don’t think you can accuse many small clubs of ‘bad recruitment’. They have to cut their cloth. I think Stanley have had and, generally, have ‘good recruitment’ given their financial position.
‘Bad recruitment’ should be reserved for the global businesses that were once English football clubs which splash untold millions on players only for those ‘assets’ to spend their lives on the bench or in the tattoo parlour.

An issue for Stanley’s management to consider now is whether any of those surplus midfielders can become reliable goal scorers. They tried it with Pell and Baghelou. (sp!) up front with little success. Tommy Leigh looks to be trying hard, and Hamilton needs to be given more chances to use that left foot. But, as things stand, there doesn’t seem to be any alternative to end the goal drought.

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The midfield is the dynamo of the team, responsible for creating opportunities for the strikers.
We started with both Colby & Korede on Tuesday without effect.
To be fair, most of our goals have come from midfielders, Pell, Butcher etc. both absent on Tuesday.
Add to that the mystery of Pritchard, another missing creative link & the supply of quality balls has evaporated.
Yes, we need our strikers to hit the target but to do that we need our best midfield to play.
It's not a simple question of too many midfielders.
I'd like to bet a midfield of Pell, Butcher & Pritchard would transform our goal tally.

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Maybe it would - but you cannot overlook midfield defensive duties.

Maybe we should all pick our best midfield and formation.

Could be a good discussion.

On the recruitment side the thing is with Charles he served the longest notice period imaginable so surely during that period our scouting and contacts should have been in full acceleration to get a replacement in that fitted the bill ?

Instead or at least it looks like from the outside we had a poor window allegedly gazumped and panic last day.

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Just compare the side to the one that played the first game of the season to tuesday nights one to see how far the team has gone backward. No matter what we think of departing players we did well to recruit them in the first place. How long we can keep unearthing these players we,ll never know but one season its going to go pear shaped with recruitment i,m sure.

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Totally agree young Coyle was doing a good job upto his suspension now seems frozen out, good has Conneely is at that side of the game I by the way am one of his fans during his time here a lot sat around me haven't been unfortunately age and injury catching him up he was blowing hard at beginning of second half and sorry but we need competition in their fitness as well. Doncaster didn't look the fittest side either but waltzed through our midfield has the game wore on.

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them having the wind second half didnt harm them it was our finishing when we had it,

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We should play AT HOME:

SAVIN
CLARK NOTTINGHAM SYKES AMANKWA
HAMILTON MORGAN BUTCHER MCCONVILLE
ADEDOYIN BISHOP

Bench: RODGERS CONNEELEY RICH BAGHOULOU PELL LEIGH ISHERWOOD LONGELO

Let's hope they are fit Saturday....

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yes, that fit doncaster side that regularly score first in games and then crumble late on to 3-1 defeats. was never worried until their 2nd went in as i was sure we,d equalise even playing badly.