Colby Bishop leaving
 

Looks pretty certain after listening to JC on Twitter. I know we are are ever destined to be a selling club but it’s damn annoying all the same, him and Ross in the same Summer.

Plus goalscorers who look competent and do a job are pretty hard to find.

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it dont annoy me at all with our resources, we always will be a selling club i think,i just accept the fact and move on,

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His proposed move to Blackpool has now collapsed as well.

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Alhagi Toure Sisse Spanish 6ft 4 ins striker been with us on trail believe we are going to sign him played in Spain brief appearance at Grimsby rest Welsh football 51 goals in 68 appearance,s that is impressive at any level.

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Andyd I believe that several other clubs keeping their eyes on him. we had better be quick

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Looks as though Colby has gone to Portsmouth.Completed a medical Wednesday .

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Signed on the dotted line for Pompey undisclosed fee believe around £500,000 good luck lad.

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its on the fishy now good luck to the guy.

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"Believed to be"
"Undisclosed"
Isn't it about time there was some honesty ?
Or is it a case of not wanting to know what the profit is being spent on ?
Look I get it.
Selling club blah blah blah ....... and as still being seen as an outsider albeit followed the club home and away for many years (excluding covid) genuinely I think the fans would like to know.
Not in a negative sense but in a sense of knowing where the priorities lie.
Surely the time is ripe for re investment in the product on the pitch ?
Stand by for being slagged off ................

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I am not in the slightest bit interested in knowing how much we get for players when sold as i consider we are a bit unique at Accrington Stanley as the owner, directors and manager has the best interest of the club and importantly the supporters at heart, other we wouldn't be where we are
today.

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Sir
Good points
I'll reply in full tomorrow
Google I think Matt Grimes ? Exeter to Swansea
That leaked fee cost Exeter millions

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And there you have the stock reply.
Accy are not unique every club will tell you they have the interests of the club at heart.
Pitch - big tick.
Ground improvements - big tick.
Dressing rooms - big tick
Corporate facilities - big tick

Product on the pitch - ?

Stop looking upon what I've said with negativity. Never once said I don't applaud what's been achieved.
I would just like to see the spread sheet adjusted a little now and see if we can improve the squad.

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Sir,

I hope you're not suggesting keep it hush so we can rob Leamington on the sell on clause ?
I thought we were better than that.

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Well I,ve enjoyed the ride since that first game back in 1970.

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Sorry to lose Colby, of course, especially to Pompey, but it would have been far worse to have a disgruntled wanting-away top scorer in the dressing room (again) .....

Not suggesting in any way that would have been his likely reaction if he'd still been here on opening day, but I'm pleased the slightest risk of it has been removed.

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Sorry to see him go but good luck to him. Is it a measure of how far Stanley have progressed that our better players get sold before the season starts, rather than after?

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Errr… are you suggesting Coley isn’t telling the truth?
"He hasn't walked away for nothing, so we'll get a few bob and Leamington will get rewarded as well which is good."

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Progress at Stanley has been immense and we will like a lot of others always be a selling club it's just that we are better at doing it than most Colby deserve,s his move especially after Charles cost him is move last season professional throughout and has nothing but praise for everything about the club.

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Wish him well after all he's done for us. Just sorry he's going to a club in the same division and will have to play against us.

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Andy Holt,s words as a club we bring players in at the bottom and let them out at the top there is no other model for ASFC, he says Colby was devastated last season to have his move blocked and to be able to play in the Championship, I promised him if another move came I wouldn't stand in his way again he carried on and gave his all. The correct way to run a club with the smallest resources in the EFL.

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You have summed it up perfectly there andyd.:alright:
Good luck Colby..….just don’t score against us please!:hidewall:

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Gutted he has gone, but very pleased for him :)

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Err I suggest you read Mark's comment #11.
Not me who brought a comparison in with Ashley Grimes.

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It,s not always the two clubs involved in a transfer that agree to keep a fee undisclosed for a variety of reasons sometimes has agents have said the player involved may request it is kept from the public because he might not want them to know that for example he was sold for £300 million.

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I don’t know what the Matt Grimes reference alludes to, and am not really that interested. But then I’m less interested in the financial intricacies of football than some.
My comment, quoting Coley, was in response to your suggestion that Stanley may be wanting to:
”keep it hush so we can rob Leamington on the sell on clause ? I thought we were better than that.”
Don’t try and blame Mr.T for what your comment implied.

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Defo not robbing Leamington; had a good chat with their Chairman recently. All "undisclosed figures" are known to FIFA, FA, EFL

We've lost Colby for X

Trialist A, B & C's agent knows a club has sold a player for the exact figure. They then think the can get their client 3 times more than the figure they had in mind, as we've sold Colby

They think ASFC are "rich" because of one transfer !!

Look at recent home attendances for home PSF's :confused: Yes times are tough
Look at the infra structure improvements :)

We have to be a "selling club"

Enjoy the ride; it's OK; better than NWCFL; no disrespect to them and our time with them in the 80's :)

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Nice to see that you deleted that Valarian ..... but not before I read it.
Come on grow some and re post then we can have a debate.

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Fair comment Mark but I'm not taking the backlash for your Ashley Grimes comment.

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OK Andy - so let me re word the question.
How much of the undisclosed will be spent on players ?
We need forward(s).

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I really haven't got a clue but I do know the club are trying for players and striker,s one came on yesterday against Sunderland and he could possibly join looked useful, but who would you sign and what wages would you pay them when their agent sits at the table to discuss the salary.

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You talk like this problem is alien to our club Accy - but come out with the same strap line.
I really don't want to come across as a negative - or as a Troll as Valarian likes to put it.
However if we know what had come in fee wise compared to what we we know has been expended on facilities then a genius wouldn't have a problem in calculating the investment in the product on the pitch.

Here's a few undisclosed
Pearson
Johnson
Jackson
Donacien
Sykes
Bishop

There are others.

Expenditure ?

Let me get one thing straight. Coley and Co. Geniuses.

But how much longer before the bubble bursts ?
Who's next ? Nottingham ?

If I've offended anyone - tough ****

I've walked away from this forum and can do it again.
Again I ask an honest question.

Are you happy with the squad ?

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I think most supporters of most clubs will be critical of their respective squads ask for example Everton this year protests already before the season every one has expectations it's what makes for the excitement but we are alien as a club as you put it because the fans as a whole don't turn and call for the management,s heads to roll at the first sign of failure . Last season I was a bit concerned especially after Charles left us in the mire and we won't get away with -19 goals against and finish top half again but we did and for that he at has to be applauded. Has for this seasons squad I have been to all the home friendly,s and like the dearth of young talent we have coming through , Coley looks like he's pulled another masterstroke with convincing Burnley to loan us Jenson what a prospect he looks and hopefully he will help organise the back line, striker,s position is always difficult but we have a new man in Lowe who puts himself about strong and works hard and Coley is working on bringing someone in more positive actually in the squad than last season, over to you Twenty Eight has I said can you suggest anyone out there who we can put to the club to bring in

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Sorry I forgot to mention expenditure not a clue what we have paid out recently but we have paid a fee for a few but one thing that I can wager is that the balance sheet will show since Andy Holt has been here is a plus. And Andy is busy fighting our corner for the club over the stupid EFL,s distribution rules over streaming rights of platforms such as Ifollow due to meet them in August. Hopefully he succeeds in getting a fairer deal for Accy and other clubs so has the income grows for us and ultimately so does the club including the playing side including our now fabulous academy set up.

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PERSONALLY I think we got a decent squad for this season you can think what you like 28 yer entitled,

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I agree Cashy for what we have "spent " and think a few clubs will look on enviously.

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Andy,
Let's not confuse two topics.
It's not for a fan to select targets that's the Manager and his Staff's job.
However as you rightly state that is governed by a budget.
All I've asked is how much of the revenue from player sales directly transfers to Coley's budget to acquire players.
Let's assume the rumours of the undisclosed are correct.
£800k banked.
If it's nothing fair enough.
All this talk about Agents etc makes it sound like only Accy have a problem and that Agents are the problem.
Not true.
Anyway enough of it.
We've replaced a £500k striker with an untried centre forward and as Chewy has pointed out on the other thread that will be minimal outlay.
Great business if it comes off.
Personally I think we lack experience up there.
Time to move on I think.

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Yes probably time.....as there are too many unknowns, and generally Stanley fans are happy to "play one of the smallest player budget cards" when talking to fans of other clubs. It also helps the Manager and Staff keep fan expectations in check each season. The "Stanley-Way" of selling the players it has either "rejuvenated" or "coached and improved" and replacing them with players who have either "lost their way" or "have talent but need help" continues under Coley and Holt. That is the "the recruitment strategy" at Accrington. There obviously is some money for Fees but not a great deal for improving wages. The extra budget available to us in League 1 has been spent on the U23 set up. Which as we all know is a very slow burn, but does sometimes turn up real gems.

As always, I await the start of the season on Saturday against Charlton with a mixture of both excitement and trepidation. Charlton should be a good test of how we might fair this season, and I just don't want to lose.

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Youth product Lesley Adekoya at just 18years old signs a two year first professional contract and joins the first team set up great news and an example of the way forward for Stanley, We will never on our attendance,s compete in the wages department and we can afford small fee,s for certain players but we can't half compete on the pitch.

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Cameron Branagan turns down a move to Blackpool who had triggered a release clause with a offer of seven figure,s to remain at Oxford signing a new improved 3 years deal even Appleton remarked his salary offer for league 1 must have been a great one to turn them down, he was one of the top end earners at Oxford probably now the top not the biggest club attendance wise but budget wise they blow us out of the water.

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most clubs blow us out the water budget wise, i dont bother about that at all.its up to us us to prove thats not everything. imho