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3-4-1-2 lineup...I thought we were doing 4 at the back ? Anyway, in GOD we trust. C'mon STANLEY.:alright:

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*^*^%^$%^$*&%(&(&^$&^#*^&(. :(

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Abject start. Why only wake up when a goal down?

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...to **** us off...

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Well that confirms it, not good enough.

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Easy for Fleetwood again. Doomed.

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*$^^&$#^%$&^&%&%&&*..now I'm really getting ****ed off...

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Just gets from bad to worse

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Pensioner is not a bad occupation. I think it is time Coley joined us.

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...lost for words...

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Yeah...we scored.....

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..now we have 2 !!! game on

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Blew it..******.

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Shambles... 2 -5

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I think 'Gods' future might be reviewed at seasons end,,Shame really, coz this season his only hic-up...but maybe it is time for a change sadly. New face ,new ideas, new person to moan about..

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Is it the players or the management? Devoid of a lot of elements of the game on that showing. Time to start preparing for next season in League 2.

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John Coleman must bear the ultimate responsibility for our present position.
Too much reliance on the same underperforming players & incapable of changing his gameplan.
We could do worse than put Ged Brannan & Andy Gray in charge & base our team for next season on our successful under 23 squad.

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Just awful back to league 2.

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Might get a trip to Wales as well, if Wrexham make it.

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Since my last visit to Wrexham I've discovered that my Great Great Great Grandfather Tom Heath played for them in their first match in 1864. I knew my Dad's 2nd cousin Dave Gaskell kept goal for them in the 1970s.

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Words, at least printable ones, fail me after that first half performance.

Here’s a competition to take our minds of it….how many other teams in the EFL, nay the world, would have to wait for their captain to be left behind (correctly) in the changing room at half time before they showed a bit of fight?

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How you can blame Sean for a first half showing we’re defenders in Sunday league don’t defend how we did shows how fickle an blame free to certain players certain fans are. One straight ball up to there striker to flick on to another striker who’s clean through on goal at least 9 times is defending you won’t see accross the country at any level of football. We conceded 5 an should have been 15. Add to that adedoyin who doesn’t like to run an Tommy Leigh despite his goal looking a yard of the pace all afternoon. Usually you get one player to come out of a game with credit but there was none from are performance today. Every player was miles below par. You’d like to hope for a reaction Tuesday but defend like we are an we won’t win any game of football.

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I certainly didn’t think any of the players or management came off with much or any praise but I’m referring to the kind of drive, fight, and grit that should be expected from a captain of a team that is in Stanley’s dire position.
Just haven’t seen it since Conneely got injured.

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Will feel a little better when we have a proper captain on the park... a leader, someone who will lead, guide and support the team. McConville doesn't succeed on any of these points.

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In response to Pidge’s comments perhaps only one Stanley player could have come out of that match with any credit…… Lukas Jensen. IMHO but for him it could have been double figures.:rolleyes:

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So once again our sub-standard under-achievers led by their witless Captain have lived up to their reputations and under-achieved !.
Fleetwood Town were good, but made to look so much better by a defence without any shape and a strike-force (?) carrying no threat whatsoever, made even more impotent by the second half substitutions, the last two of these showing no talent or quality at all .
I understand, from informed sources, that the squad do actually train together during the week, but it seems that whatever they attempt to develop in the way of tactics might not be right or complimentary to finding any success in League 1 football.
It was with a degree of sadness today when I felt that I was reading into the faces and attitudes of our players a realisation that their efforts were bordering on the futile and they were failing miserably. Not good ?.
Where then can our Manager look to reverse all the negatives on show today that seem obvious to those of us watching who do not profess to know the ins and outs of League football ?.
Answers in no more than 500 words by Tuesday please !.

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Why wait till Tuesday Yonmon, the answer to the above is obvious
THE MIRROR!

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On reflection that seems more than reasonable !! :)

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Mr. Coleman,s past achievements have in the main been made possible by some shrewd non league gems and good leadership on the pitch playing in a consistent same 11 or so players, this season that hasn't happened in all departments he blames himself for a lack of depth with any talent in the squad I disagree we are lacking confidence and quality for this level in the squad entire. Wether we are in league 1 or increasingly likely league 2 this squad needs an entire clean sweep.

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A rebuild of the squad......certainly. By a new manager......doubt it. I think Andy will ask him to stay. There can be very few managers who can work with less budget than is required. We'll naturally lose a few who are tempted away, the loans will go. Probably at the stage where we need to construct a new spine to the team. Some just aren't good enough for league 2.........A relegation is a bit like a funeral. Its one of the saddest things to occur in football........not as bad as what happened to us in 1962 but BAD.

STILL WHILE THERE'S BREATH IN MY BODY AND UNTIL THE MATHS SAY WE'RE RELEGATED......I WON'T BE GIVING UP ON MY TEAM OF MIX-MATCHED FOOTBALLERS.......

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By the way andyd....I am agreeing with you. Just addind my thoughts.....

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I think it’s too simple to just blame the players but a “clear out” can cut both ways.
The “clear out” at the end of last season didn’t work out too well. Don’t like to admit it, but the warning from 28 (of blessed memory) at the beginning of this season about not investing in players seems to have been proven to be more right than wrong.

Looking at a list Valairian produced a while ago, of the 34 players listed and still with us, 17 are out of contract/loan at the end of this season and, presumably, can leave of their own accord.

These are:
Savin, Jensen, Isherwood, Tharme, Notts, Clark, Rogers, Longelo, Baghuelou, Conneely, Pritchard, Hamilton, Hardy, Adedoyin, Nolan, Lusiama, and Pressley.

Contracted to 2024 are:
Baba, Sloane, Morgan, Leigh, Coyle, Sangare, Patrick, Poilly, McConville, Whalley, Lowe, Sisay, Adekoya, Moonan, Martin, Fenton, Woods (the last four have contract extensions activated).

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Exile........if the funeral goes ahead our playing budget will be reduced by a large amount, certainly in Stanley's terms. There would be a clear out, simply to balance the books....and the leavers might not necessarily be the one's you'd like to go.

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If we go down it doesn't have to mean less playing budget Andy Holt has increased it every season he has been at the helm and with ground improvements finished ( on hold ) I see no reason to reduce the budget as for the players who are contracted for next season unless someone comes in for one of them or more or the contract is waived by both parties they are here to stay so we rebuild around that core which has plenty of young players on small wages so maybe concentrate on a smaller squad with a bit more quality in it.

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Of the players out of contract I would personally like to see the following offered new terms:-
Jensen, Clark, Rodgers, Baghuelou, Conneely, Hamilton and Pritchard.

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Seems you're right andyd and financial fair play rules don't apply to League's 1 and 2. There are rules about player budget but an owner can just tip money into a club to pay wages as long as he doesn't expect it back. I suppose it explains how Fleetwood signed Jack Marriot in January for close to £1m and pay him lottery wages every week to score goals against poorer clubs like us.........and with Sheff Wed paying Bannon £21k a week, Windass £12k a week and the two lads at Plymouth £18k a week, not to mention the average League 1 player being paid £7k a week it's no surprise we find it difficult to attract quality players..........

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I would add Longelo to that list, one of our more consistent players who can take on opponents, beat them & provide that crucial cross into the box.
It's vital we keep the core of our under 23 squad together. Any team that can win the Central League and remain unbeaten (at any level) is
exceptional.
The departure of the likes of Pressley, Butler-Oyedeji & the invisible man - Touray Sisay, would prove no great loss.

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I was going to say the same but you have said it.

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What of Baghuelou and Pritchard's fitness records and how long can Conneely keep going?

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Is there a 10-a-side league we can play in next season? We're experienced at that ....

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The current team selection would struggle in EFL league 2. If we aren't careful with next seasons recruitment / team selection we could easily follow the route of the Chesterfields, Scunthorpe, Notts County, Oldham, Rochdale and the like which would set us back years. Lets truly hope it doesn't come to that.

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Being realistic Andy, Clark will be on his way to treble his wages........

Hamilton is our best player, so I think he would be off.

Pritchard I also think will leave for pastures new.....

I could - and hope I am - be wrong completely Andy :)

P.S. I agree with your thoughts completely :)


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Hey Watchdog it's not quite time to look into that Crystal Bowl just yet I feel...
Have a peep into mine in which is a vision of The Reds , with those few games left to play, staying in League One by the skin of their teeth !.
I know that following my hyper-critical critique of last evening, some will scoff at this sudden change of heart, but it seems the only fair way for any true Stanley to
think at this crucial time.
I guess that Choirboy might just join me in exhorting everyone, if nothing else, to
KEEP THE FAITH !.

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I cannot believe that it has gotten to Sunday before anybody has pointed out the reason - again - for our demise............






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Yes that's it .....Val......problem sorted........4 at the back. There was so much space down the flanks which Fleetwood exploited........I wish I knew who chose 3 at the back for Stanley. Wasn't it when we had 3 very tall centre backs? Just need to kidnap that person, blindfold them and keep them away from the ground and training ground for the last 5 games...

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He has already gone unfortunately, can't see him playing after this season.

More chance of signing Mumbongo.

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Sorry Crown Grounder - whilst I agree with you about the formation - I was pointing out that K.J. had started the match thread....... :o :o :o


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Utter nonsense.
Take a look at results with him in against those without him especially the goals conceded column.

Gone where by the way ?

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It wasn't difficult to work out mate.
I have my reasons for staying away from here and might explain at the end of the season.

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You are right dear friend.:)
I am still trying to be optimistic and positive that we can avoid the drop to League Two.:mosher:
As you know I rarely get into commenting negatively so once again I will be there on Tuesday evening blowing my horn and twirling my scarf….win or lose!:jimbo::jimbo:
In spite of some poor results at home the support from the Clayton End has continued to be just brilliant, so…….
Let us all get 100% behind The Reds!
KEEP THE FAITH:theband:
ON STANLEY ON:wave8::signbeer::drink:

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Silence is golden Chewbacca.
Captain’s performance tonight and zero conceded.

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It was a Captains performance 28, he has been sadly missed whilst out injured. Lets up he remains fit enough to lead us into the next two games and help to make them win games for Accy.

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Listening to Jimmy Bell, I think you were correct about Seamus :)

Seamus just - not for the first time - put his body on the line last night.....

Well played Seamus :)


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Spot on :)