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andyd 08-08-2023 07:21

Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
In the event of a tied score after 90+ minutes the game goes straight to penalties.

VALAIRIAN 08-08-2023 07:40

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Need to score more in the 90 then Andy ;)

:)

VALAIRIAN 08-08-2023 07:41

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
I would make a few changes tonight, just to give more players game time :)

:)

andyd 08-08-2023 08:16

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1273528]I would make a few changes tonight, just to give more players game time

Fernandez doesn't seem to have had much game time preseason or Saturday maybe nursing an injury but we need him fit he's a decent defender, has for changes that's always difficult do you give the ones in already more minutes or pick a side you hope will progress maybe try a different option upfront?

Crown Grounder 08-08-2023 09:18

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
[QUOTE=andyd;1273529]
Quote:

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN (Post 1273528)
I would make a few changes tonight, just to give more players game time

Fernandez doesn't seem to have had much game time preseason or Saturday maybe nursing an injury but we need him fit he's a decent defender, has for changes that's always difficult do you give the ones in already more minutes or pick a side you hope will progress maybe try a different option upfront?

Coley and his team know the players and know where they are up to fitness-wise. We often just guess based on our limited knowledge and prejudices. I hope Fernández is fit and is able to play so that Lewis's swollen ankle is rested.

VALAIRIAN 08-08-2023 17:47

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
8 changes is too many I feel :eek:

Will see at full time :)

:)

andyd 08-08-2023 17:54

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
[QUOTE=VALAIRIAN;1273542]8 changes is too many I feel :eek:

Will see at full time :)

Obviously having a good look at fringe players in game mode never going to win this competition just a risk has gate money isn't has lucrative in this competition they think is worth the state of play in the squad in real time football.

VALAIRIAN 08-08-2023 18:19

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Would always be nice to get through to 3rd ish and get a decent team :)

As you say though, 3 points against Gillingham is far more important ;)


:)

Haggis316 08-08-2023 19:23

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
According to the BBC site Accrington substitute number 33 named Popoola. Would he be Josh Popoola, aged 19/20 released by Bournemouth at the end of last season? Recall a number 33 impressing in trials.

andyd 08-08-2023 21:54

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
What an awful game to watch that was 1st half couldn't believe just how bad Bradford were and our totally inept tactics of having any players near the opposition,s box was absolutely tactical out of touch if we had shown any bit of compulsion to venture into that box first half we could have been a couple of goals to the good, no we fall asleep waiting for half time and let a very grateful Bradford take the lead. The minute we introduce Andrews for a very poor Lowe we found the opposition,s box shortly after we equalize rocket science init. Then the game was pretty poor until the inevitable penalty shootout, for Accrington,s part it was nothing short of embarrassing summed up by Adeyoin penalty farce which sums the player up for me lacks concentration seems at times totally uninterested in what,s going on around him totally poor night and people on here say he should be an automatic selection don't know what they are seeing because it certainly isn't footballing nonce. Back to the league Saturday tough game away at Gillingham Coleman needs quickly to find his best 11 and instructions on attacking the opposition,s box and hopefully no Lowe or Adeyoin in.

AccyMad 08-08-2023 22:02

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 1273549)
According to the BBC site Accrington substitute number 33 named Popoola. Would he be Josh Popoola, aged 19/20 released by Bournemouth at the end of last season? Recall a number 33 impressing in trials.

No, apparently he's a 16 year old academy player

Exile on Spencer St 08-08-2023 22:21

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Can’t disagree with Andyd’s summary about our first half tactics (if there were any) and two man ‘strike’ force. We were woeful in attack for a long time; even Longelo had an ineffective match.
But some of the ‘squad’ players did OK. The back four (O’Brien, Hall, Pickles and Quirk) did well against a beefy and physical side. Martin did well in midfield, especially in the second half. Andrews scored a proper centre-forward’s goal.
Two penalties were disappointing, (being kind) but a 105 minute draw, with a less than full strength team, against last season’s L2 play-off contenders was creditable.

Crown Grounder 08-08-2023 22:43

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
An entertaining game. Thought Bradford were very poor throughout the game including substitutions. Very poor around the box, seemed to rely totally on set-pieces. We were poor in the final third and Lowe out-muscled in every challenge. Not sure what he brings to our attack. I thought he may do better in League two but on tonight's showing he's playing a league or two above where he should be playing. Kode, did OK playing behind Lowe with his link-up play and was one of our better players in the first half. We were much better following the substitutions of Leigh, Andrews and Nolan. O'Brien? I think our sub at left back, did Ok in a very physical game and only got muscled off the ball once. His passing was safe and he took the easy option but it was OK for a first League Two level game. The Penalties, well its always a Lottery.....and least said the better. Glad Leigh and Whalley were there to console the misses....I can't imagine how tough it must be taking and then missing a penalty in that situation. My heart goes out to them.

Finally great atmosphere created by the Bradford City fans......the only time they were quiet was when we scored the equaliser....

Watchdog 09-08-2023 04:36

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Result apart, i thought all the young lads from the 23s were excellent tonight and will do their confidence in playing league football a world of good. Also thought Quirk had a really good game. Would have been nice to win but pushing on in EFL League 2 is
more important.

andyd 09-08-2023 07:42

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchdog (Post 1273559)
Result apart, i thought all the young lads from the 23s were excellent tonight and will do their confidence in playing league football a world of good. Also thought Quirk had a really good game. Would have been nice to win but pushing on in EFL League 2 is
more important.

Bit worrying on the 8 changes in the starting line up were through fitness issues and injuries according to Coleman only 2nd game in doesn't make for good listening plus I thought John,s body language gave away that the performance did affect him he just won't say it in public.

VALAIRIAN 09-08-2023 07:59

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1273562)
Bit worrying on the 8 changes in the starting line up were through fitness issues and injuries according to Coleman only 2nd game in doesn't make for good listening plus I thought John,s body language gave away that the performance did affect him he just won't say it in public.

Jay Rich and Seamus I can understand - they are working their way back to full fitness :)

Mellor was limping on Saturday, so get that also :)

Somebody has put on here that Shipley had a knock also on Saturday :)

Nolan, Leigh and McConville, did not look injured, did not play the full game and two of them are young lads - strange to me :confused: :confused:

:)

andyd 09-08-2023 08:01

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Last night's game doesn't throw any light on the league games to come they finished in the playoffs last season and only made two changes to their opening game defeat so you could argue with our best eleven on last night we could have blown them away trouble now the early cup games are becoming more like preseason friendly,s hence just over 1000 Accy fans in the crowd can you blame them for paying extra on top of your season ticket if you have one we move on to a very difficult away game at Gillingham who I think will be among the top six to eight all season.

VALAIRIAN 09-08-2023 08:49

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
We play Barrow - in L2 - 3 days after Gillingham, if we make 8 changes again, we will struggle :(


We will NOT make 8 changes!!!!!


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cashman 09-08-2023 09:24

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
BRADFORD is a city,there players are probably paid 3 0r 4 times more than ours
i do not think we played that badly against them, they will be one of the top teams in div2 i think,i do not think we will do too badly in div2 this season.thats my opinion.

AccyMad 09-08-2023 09:42

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1273568)
BRADFORD is a city,there players are probably paid 3 0r 4 times more than ours
i do not think we played that badly against them, they will be one of the top teams in div2 i think,i do not think we will do too badly in div2 this season.thats my opinion.

I'm just worried that I agree with Cashy! :) My only addition to.his post is that some of their players looked more like they should be playing rugby (& some did!) & the ref had no grip at all on their thuggish ways

Crown Grounder 09-08-2023 09:52

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1273569)
I'm just worried that I agree with Cashy! :) My only addition to.his post is that some of their players looked more like they should be playing rugby (& some did!) & the ref had no grip at all on their thuggish ways

League 2 looks more physical than League 1. I'd forgotten this. Unless Newport and Bradford are not typical of League 2 teams.

Anyway Coley said he'd made 8 changes and the changes he made were 5 due to injury and 3 to give players game time. So the 3 who played Saturday and came on were not out due to injury. ie. Leigh, Nolan and Andrews. Therefore the injured from Saturday must have be: McConville, Seamus, Jay, Shipley and Mellor. Hopefully they've only got knocks and will feature on Saturday or next Tuesday latest?

Exile on Spencer St 09-08-2023 11:01

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1273569)
I'm just worried that I agree with Cashy! :) My only addition to.his post is that some of their players looked more like they should be playing rugby (& some did!) & the ref had no grip at all on their thuggish ways

Yes, I did wonder at times whether we were playing Bradford Bulls.

andyd 09-08-2023 11:11

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown Grounder (Post 1273570)
League 2 looks more physical than League 1. I'd forgotten this. Unless Newport and Bradford are not typical of League 2 teams.

Anyway Coley said he'd made 8 changes and the changes he made were 5 due to injury and 3 to give players game time. So the 3 who played Saturday and came on were not out due to injury. ie. Leigh, Nolan and Andrews. Therefore the injured from Saturday must have be: McConville, Seamus, Jay, Shipley and Mellor. Hopefully they've only got knocks and will feature on Saturday or next Tuesday latest?

Well on that basis Shipley,s and Mellor,s must be the worrying ones has they didn't make the bench.

Haggis316 09-08-2023 11:24

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Adedoyin's penalty not gone unnoticed by the fans of his former employers.
https://twitter.com/WTIDPOD/status/1689034153621139456

Crown Grounder 09-08-2023 11:57

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1273576)
Well on that basis Shipley,s and Mellor,s must be the worrying ones has they didn't make the bench.

Correct Andyd, Shipley's ankle is swollen so provided no break he will recover with ice packs. If not for Saturday then next Tuesday. Mellor possible more to worry about as he was not fit when he came to us. Let's hope he's not the "delicate" type.

On another note I'm really pleased with the two lads from Norwich. Very capable. And Josh Andrews upfront is impressive as a target man.

The biggest worry for me is the window still being open.

Crown Grounder 09-08-2023 12:11

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Plus the eight changes mean more players have got valuable game time........we've now had two games with almost different back-lines. Very positive position to be in going forward. Still let's see where we are after 10 games.

andyd 09-08-2023 12:15

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
A massive positive from last night was Arron Pickles thought he was outstanding against a very experienced Andy Cook who has lots of experience and goals in him a mature head on his shoulders and like a good centre back doesn't stray to far from his position Hills looks good as well but personally going forward would like to see a partnership in the middle of Baghuelou and Pickles I think Hills could fit either full back role with ease.

choirboy 09-08-2023 16:26

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Hmmmm. Reading a mixture of opinions from earlier replies about the match. Some quite negative and some more positive. For me, I don’t try to read too much into why Coley’s selections are as they are!
I thought that our young team last night played really well on the whole against a much more experienced City team. If I have to express disappointment about the match then it is aimed at a very physical Bradford side who resorted much of the time to a ‘Route One’ approach including their centre forward and centre backs just throwing themselves into our players. I am sure our young defenders learnt a lot about the rougher tactics in wider use in the men’s game but I honestly thought they handled those rough tactics well. Ironically this barging headlong into our players resulted in two opponents finishing up with their heads bandaged up! Refereeing has to be looked at here too!
Very disappointed with these tactics employed by Mark Hughes! I would not want to watch them every week!
Yes, Stanley struggled for an hour with the lack of strength at centre forward but the good substitutions in the second half made a big difference to our attacking threat. Perfectly illustrated in our equalizing goal. Sub Leigh’s quick thinking in taking a short corner to Sub Nolan who curved a lovely left footed outswinger for Sub Josh Andrews to power in a superb header. The goal scored was right in front of me and my daughter and was ‘Simply Class!” I think Andrews could be our twenty goal replacement for Bishop that we have been looking for! Hoping he can stay clear of injury.
I like Brad Hills and Josh Andrews in particular and they certainly look like they could be the answers to some of our previous weaknesses.
Seb Quirk was my MOTM for an exemplary all round performance, starting at right back where he defended well and got into a lot of our passing moves going forward. Then he was equally effective at left back after the substitutions! A very under rated player!
I agree with comments about our younger home grown players doing really well too.
Penalties are just a lottery, I would prefer extra time.
I am feeling quite positive about our prospects moving forward from here.
KEEP THE FAITH POSITIVELY:theband:
ON STANLEY ON

:jimbo::jimbo::jimbo:

Inspector Morse 09-08-2023 23:33

Re: Bradford 1st round carabao cup.
 
Agree with you re Quirk.
Had a good game at full back.
I'm never sure what he's supposed to bring to the side in midfield.


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