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Crown Grounder 30-12-2024 21:31

Re: Carlisle away
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1280380)
Andy Holt has posted on Twitter or X or whatever the medium he uses is called now

"I'm backing our management team there will be players coming in, if identified as needed

Feel free to vent your frustration though - I get frustrated too"

Make of that what you will . . . . .
"

AccyMad...what Andy Holt said was in response to a question by another poster on Twitter who was suggesting he had invested in the Club facilities but not the team.....of course that's not true as we know the set up under Coley with the developement team and under 21s and youth cost an absolute fortune when we were in League 1 and is still to some extent being unwound now and still costing the club money going forward....we had so many players on the books in League 1...many never played or were good enough to play...Now there is a proper set up, more checks on players signed and better control......

NORTHERNSOUL 31-12-2024 08:41

Re: Carlisle away
 
As someone with a foot in both camps so to say and who was there on Sunday i wouldnt be as down as some of you on here are.

I thought Stanley didnt play as badly as some are making out and you certainly created more of the better chances than Carlisle did but where you didnt get the break was that for the first time in ages Carlisle scored first just imagine how different it would have been if youd gone one up instead and rather than the home crowd being behind their team it would have gone toxic like it did against Morecambe last week.

For me for Accy [and to an extent Carlisle] you just need to get results against the teams in the bottom eight because despite what some people say even at this point in time those games are six pointers and anything you get from teams above that is a bonus.

At the minute youd say that it will be two of those eight to go down but history says someone from above that will have a nightmare second half of the season and end up right in the mire.

Whether you think the current management team was the right choice or not is up for debate but what i do think is that Andy will do is not panic and stick by them and play the long game by investing whatever it takes of the Anfield cash to ensure survival unfortunately for the Morecambe fans you really can't see that sort of thinking happening there can you ?

Personally, i.d love to see all the North West clubs survive as we've lost enough recently in Bury and Rochdale as nowhere else in any league is there a concentration of clubs in such a small area and all the local derbies that brings and i just hope that Easter Monday isnt winner takes all for one of our clubs and wouldnt it be great if Stanley give Carlisle the maximum number of tickets ie all the Whalley stand and then filled all of their half of the ground ?

But one thing i have to mention is what happened to the away support on Sunday i couldnt believe there were so few. Ive been away with Accy to many more far flung places and theres been considerably more, anybody have any ideas i know theres a big game coming up and that the trains wernt great but a taxi to Preston like i did would have only added 4 quid or the cost of a pint to the day out and even then it appeared that there was only the one bus but correct me if i.m wrong on that one.Surely those kids that got the shirts 5 years ago should be starting to make a difference to numbers now.

Anyway guys lets hope for a couple of results between now and the 11th and to a great day out at Anfield.

Twenty Eight 31-12-2024 12:50

Re: Carlisle away
 
The irony of this thread is not lost upon me.
I was slaughtered by many on here years ago for questioning where the money was going i.e. totally into infrastructure and not understanding "the Accy way"
We can all reel off the revenue from sales and the names of the players and we are all intelligent enough to have a stab at "undisclosed"
My stock phrase then still applies now.
No good having nice facilities with no product on the pitch.
Coley somehow worked miracles but all miracles are not sustainable.
Any of our current squad likely on move on for a fee ?
Dark days ahead but lets hope for another miracle and a sudden turn up in form.
But is that just delaying something that feels inevitable if there's no investment in the squad ?
New owner who's prepared to invest ? I cant see it if it hasn't already happened.
New Management and Coaching Staff ?
Who would come in currently ......
4700 "fans" off to Anfield.
3000 crawling out of the woodwork.
I know ....that's how it goes.
Let's see where the revenue for that game goes and I am praying that the score line has modicum of respect.

Crown Grounder 31-12-2024 13:58

Re: Carlisle away
 
Not very attractive..."I told you so..." Yet still there are those who don't get it. ...didn't then, doesn't now. ....Investment in the squad is an interesting phrase......That's what we had under Coley in League 1....and it rarely works....and Andy is still paying for the losses incurred in those years.....
It didn't then and is unlikely to work know. People call for it...but it's always someone else who is expected to do the investing. So unless all you investors out there are lining up "to invest".....it's either "put-up" or "shut-up" in my book.......

Exile on Spencer St 31-12-2024 14:29

Re: Carlisle away
 
Spot on, CG.
Stanley (i.e. the owner) is still paying wages for inherited ‘investment’ that has yet to kick a ball this season.

Crown Grounder 31-12-2024 18:16

Re: Carlisle away
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crown Grounder (Post 1280397)
Not very attractive..."I told you so..." Yet still there are those who don't get it. ...didn't then, doesn't now. ....Investment in the squad is an interesting phrase......That's what we had under Coley in League 1....and it rarely works....and Andy is still paying for the losses incurred in those years.....
......

I would just like to point out that I'm not attacking Coley in my comments above about the way the "teams" were set up or "recruitment" happened. Everyone at the club from Top to Bottom were part of the set-up. They tried something and it didn't work-out.......I believe the new "team and recruitment" system is better controlled.


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