The New "Stanley 50 / 50 Draw"
 

Last Tuesday's fixture against York City in the Conference Cup had more than one satisfactory outcome.

The score was, of course, in Stanley's favour - but the other highly significant result on the night was the success of the 50/50 Draw.

For those readers who are unfamiliar with the situation, we've run a Half-Time Draw for many years. It's brought in a small but regular income for ASFC and has succeeded because of the generosity of its sponsors, the hard work of its ticket sellers, and the dogged willingness of the fans to spend a pound or two in the most unselfish of causes.

However, there has been an increasing demand from spectators to make the "Major Prize" more attractive. This feedback has been taken on board by the ticket sellers and has been conveyed to the Club's Chairman over the last few months.

As a result I'm delighted that Eric Whalley and Lottery Manager Mick Schultz have introduced the 50/50 Draw in which 50% of the proceeds from ticket sales goes to the Club and the other 50% goes to the Lucky Winner !

You may have noticed that the attendance at the IES on Tuesday was 392, but you probably weren't aware that the sale of 50/50 tickets was £121.
This is an amazing figure which means that more than 30% of spectators bought a ticket ! Of course, some people bought more than one ticket. Nevertheless, this percentage take-up is awesome and can only augur well for this exciting new development. Imagine how much you could win with a 3,000 attendance (on second thoughts, you don't need to imagine it ; one of our fans brought an £800 prize back from Morecambe's 50/50 a couple of seasons ago !)

On behalf of Mick, Kate, Sam, Shirley and myself I'd like to thank our past sponsors including Master Butchers Ted Feathers, Benny at the Crown Inn, the Balti Stan Restaurant, the Accrington Stanley European Vineyards(!), and everyone else who has contributed to the Half-Time Draw.

So it's a warm welcome to our new sponsor for the 50/50 Draw , Vic Allonby - Dairyman - Ltd. Most Accringtonians know the enormous contribution which Vic and his family have made to the Club in recent years - and not just financially, but in their participation and enthusiasm too.

So please support the new Draw, support our sponsor, and I look forward to greeting our first £1,000 Winner very soon !

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Thanks for the compliments Henry. please note I have only sponsored the first batch of tickets, can't afford to sponsor it forever.

What do others think of the draw in comparison to the old half time draw?

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Much more tempting......:)....

But I am not a gambling man.

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I'm sorry for making such a fool of myself.

I actually believed that the 50/50 draw was in place.

I'm embarrassed, humiliated , insulted and offended to find that I had it totally wrong.

Obviously the Club places no value on "amateurs" such as Kate, Sam and myself who try to present themselves in such a way that reflects well upon the Club.

We try to dress reasonably well, engage in a friendly manner with the supporters,and raise money for the Club whilst not seeking any commission for ourselves.

Clearly, we don't have a clue how to represent Accrington Stanley ; in future we should dress in scruffy shell-suits, pester fans, not wear any ASFC colours, not wear any ID, and continually make racist "jokes" all around the ground.

Oscar Wilde once said that a cynic knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.

This is one very, very, cynical football club from which I now announce my resignation.

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I take it someones upset you henry?

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I agree with everything Henry says, we all do our best to help the club in our own little way just to be stabbed in the back.
Every Stanley fan knows Henry,Kate and Sam and know they do a good job so why bring in some BRUISER from Radcliffe to replace them?
I am totally disgusted with the club after spending hard earned cash on the printing costs for the 50/50 draw tickets, only to find they where sold once to away fans and the second to a minor crowd for a cup game. The draw as NEVER been given a proper chance.

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but reeli, how many suggestions by the supporters club are actually supported by the club?
not enough

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Have I missed something here? Clearly Henry is very upset and I'm quite sure that I'm not alone in thinking that there must be many Stanley fans who value extremely highly the work that he and his team of helpers have put in so regularly throughout this and previous seasons. What has happened to cause this upset? I certainly have no idea. Can we do anything about it, and if not, who can? Come on Henry, I'm sure the vast majority of fans would hate to lose you and if we can help to put things right, I'm sure we are all willing to try to do so.

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How about putting on the whole story so we can maybe help by writing to the club or getting an answer from the powers that be?

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Quite simple really, the half time draw was hard to sell due to crap prizes, suggesstions to change it fell on deaf ears for many a month, When it was decided to give the 50/50 draw a go I was asked to sponsor the cost of the tickets being printed. Which I agreed to pay for 5,000 yet the club ordered 10,000. Henry ,Kate and Sam where willing to sell them as they have done in the past with the half time draw, what happens? yesterday some bruiser from Radcliffe is there selling "half time draw" with a cash prize of 100pounds YES 100POUNDS not 20quid or match tickets like Henry, Kate and Sam had to offer, also a 50quid cut out slip in the programme which will not be used as it will ruin your program, Henry , Kate and Sam where reduced to selling programs.
So now you will understand why Henry is upset as all 3 where treat like mushrooms!!!

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So where these 100 quid prize tickets summat to do with stanley or did they just let him in for summat... still a bit confused?

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The club had brought this bruiser in as he his supposed to be able to sell snow to eskimo's!!!
But if Henry, Kate and Sam had in the past a 100quid prize to offer I am sure they would have been able to sell a lot more,
There was no need to bring a stranger in.

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I for one will not buy another raffle ticket from this person. His racist comments have no place in this family club. What an earth are yopu thinking of allowing someone like this to represent the club in such a high profuile way... a total disgrace!

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This is very wrong...!!!!!! For so many reason's

WHY!!!!!!! has such LOYAL servants to the club been kept in the dark, and then apparently been treated so badly?????????:( Henry and the other usual's where......ARE...

1 Very smart,
2 Looked part of Accrington Stanley,
3 Polite and friendly,
4 Accrington Stanley FANS through and through,
5 Well known and TRUSTED
6 Part of the friendly Family that is, one of Accrington Stanleys biggest asset's!!!!!

I have never bought tickets because I do not gamble. But I certainly would have not have any reservations of buying from Henry if I did.

Then on saturday I saw what a first looked like a football hooligan walking through the crowd, with no cries of "HALF TIME DRAW" then he approached a fan and thrust a ticket under his nose, and said " you want one", and walked off. At this time I thought who is that undesirable man selling tickets???????????????
My wife who sits in the stands was approached DIRECTLY by him and in a FORCFUL manner asked if she wanted a ticket, she is tough and not easily led.. He APPEARS

1 Scruffy,
2 Ill mannered,
3 Does not look like anything to do with Accrington Stanley,
4 Does not look trustworthy,

The sad outcome I can see coming from this is a less than pleasurable experience because some meathead has spoiled there afternoon, with forcefull ticket touting... And a few less paying guest's?????

We need an explanation................

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Rumour is that Cookie insisted on every player buying £5 worth of tickets from him before the match. Has he a vested interest in this guy being a success?
I didn't have the "pleasure" of meeting the guy but I will have no qualms in talking to Eric directly if I experience anything like the above. Did anyone report his racist comments to Mick?

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Although I don't have a programme to hand, I seem to remember the ground regulations at the back stating that anyone using racist or abusive comments is liable to be ejected (or words to that effect). Could this lead to the bizarre situation of the club chucking out their own lottery ticket seller??!!

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I certainly didnt like the fella

He was too pushy and not very friendly.....

Bring back Henry, Kate and Sam

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He approached us before the kick off in the Sports Bar, and was quite aggressive in his attitude, accusing us of not supporting the club if we didn't buy a ticket. As I've been coming to Stanley for many years, and this was the first time I'd ever seen him there, I don't need lecturing from the likes of him about my level of support.

He then came round the ground shouting racist comments about the first prize, which nobody found funny.

Get rid of him. Stanley are too good a club to have him representing them.

PS. At £2 for a pint of smooth in the Sports Bar, I think I gave more to the club in profits on Saturday than if I'd bought one of his tickets. How can the club justify those prices?

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I never saw the fellow, but I know what I would have done with his ticket if he had shoved it in front of me, and as for the £50 programme prize, what an absolutely STUPID idea. Nobody is going to cut up a programme. I thought that the 50/50 draw was an excellent idea, much better than the raffle, and I think that it would have taken off and gone well.

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Are we going to get an answer from the club?

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Have you emailed them or phoned them? You wont get an answer if you dont ask a question..

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Silly me Sorry thought the powers that be read the stuff on here, Isnt someone called Rob on here a lot?

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yep he is the club administrator

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My god am I reading this right?

Rob, what the hell is going on?

Steve,Kate and Sam,I for one am 100% behind you guys,you are professional in the way you go about your tasks,never pushy,allways polite.

Surley this cant be allowed to happen?

I am disgusted,and very dissilusioned with the Club at this moment!:mad:

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Seems to me theres a lot of people raring to slag the club off without even giving them a chance to explain... I aint saying there in the right and in fact I trust what Vic and Henry have told us to be true..... just surprised at the witch hunt and so many of you attacking the club on hearsay...

If your all so angry why dont you ask the club? But may I respectfully suggest it is one of you who had dealings with this bloke and not the gossip brigade.

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is it possible that this guy is just some Con-man? From reading the posts, it just seems very odd that he turns up without anyone else knowing anything about him.

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I think he was hired by the club.. As I say ..I trust what Hanry and Vic have said..100% and I agree the sellers have been treated badly.... I just think its time to stop attacking the club and get a response from them..

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How is it hearsay. Vic has spent money on tickets thats havent been used. Many of us saw and heard this guy and were offended by the methods, language and racist views he felt he had to broadcast (within earshot of our younger supporters) on behalf of the club. a club that prides itself (and quite rightly so) on its family image. They have made a big mistake treating fans and helpers of so many years iin such a way and a BIG apology is required. I'll wait in hope.

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I SAID I BELIEVE WHAT HENRY AND VIC SAID AND 100% BELIEVE THEM AT THAT.. I also said i agree the sellers have been treated badly... I know each one of them personally and Vic and wouldn't like to see them treated badly ever!!!

I made the point that a lot of people who did NOT even see this guy are now attacking the club and its become a witch hunt... Try reading my post a couple of times.. I am sure the penny will drop....eventually :(

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Well, it certainly seems a most peculiar thing to have done. I would have thought an explanation with the reason for introducing this individual should be urgently forthcoming.

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I also saw this guy on the stands but when he walked past me and the rest of the stanley fans behind the goal he was dead quite, i suppose cammy shut him up with his huge roar of "half time draw tickets" he just waited then moved on after that so i have nothing wrong with the bloke but from what i have read this should be inquired into by the club

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Robs online... come on Rob.... put the record straight ....

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Just pm'd him too;let's see if we get answer.......

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As my name's been mentioned a few times in this thread, i'll try to explain what's happened. When I arrived at the ground on Saturday expecting to sell 50/50 draw tickets, Rob asked me to sell programmes as I wasn't needed to sell tickets. I asked why and he said they'd got someone else to sell the tickets, so could Sam and I sell programmes instead. I wasn't particularly happy about this, so I asked Rob who was going to be selling tickets on the season ticket/complimentary gate (where I sell tickets). He said the new bloke would be selling tickets all round the ground. I spoke to Mick later and told him I didn't mind selling programmes, but what hurt was the way suddenly I'm not needed anymore and no-one bothered to tell me in advance. Apparently other clubs had been after this bloke and Stanley were lucky to have him. If, however, this bloke is making racist comments, then Stanley is anything but lucky to have him, it's just not acceptable. To be fair to Mick, he did apologise to me for what had happened and I accepted his apology. If I'm needed to sell programmes, I'll do it, I just want to help the club, whather it's by selling programmes or tickets. I just want to make sure that in future a little bit of thought is given to situations so that upset and hurt don't ensue!!!

Stanleybabe

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Thats a more clear explanation..... I have to say you took it well then... It does seem a bit of a snub.. I hope it all gets sorted to everyones satisfaction soon.

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:mad: Perhaps if the club insist on keeping this THUG on , we could organize a boycott of the halftime draw until they come to their senses and return to the status quo.

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Nah thats childish,

If we as fans noticed, I'm sure the club has noticed and they will deal with it...

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I said we should do it if the club did nothing.

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Yes but if we decide to boycott the draw it would go against the club, and, the club will lose the money made from the draw so if we did that we would lose money.....

I think there will be some changes

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What is your source for this statement ?

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just buy another pint or two

loweiy

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I will go with Loweiys suggestion..:)

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Sounds like a plan to me :)

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A really worrying thing here is the deafening silence from Rob! He can usually be relied upon to give a reasoned explanation to the fans about what goes on at the club, so why not this time?

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Because I just saw him heading towards Blackburn on the M65 on my way to work!

Hopefully they are busy with new additions to the playing squad, just boycott the half time draw till we get answers & buy more beer, two programmes, more pool, more goes on Stevens footie card etc

see you ALL there tonight

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Firstly apologies for not responding sooner, I wanted to make contact with the people concerned before putting anything on the messageboard.

All the posts have been listened to and the points made have been taken into consideration. The decisions made by anyone at the club are with one point of view in mind, and that is what is in the best interests of Accrington Stanley. Sometimes these decisions are not popular, and I certainly wouldn’t claim we are always right, however I can assure you that they are never made with the aim of causing offence.

Our regular sellers do a fantastic job, and we are now looking to continue with the £100 first prize for the majority of matches, with all our sellers working together as a team. All genuine concerns voiced in this thread will be addressed.

Please don’t hesitate to contact me here at the club if you have any further issues or worries, we are all very approachable and happy to listen to constructive ideas.

Three wins out of three, here’s to a great end of season run in!

Rob

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so is this bloke still being kept on at stanley?

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Looks like it for the time being

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I have to echo Kipax's sentiments here and say;if you have a question ask the club!Rob replied to my pm and then posted on this thread.He can't be expected to respond to random remarks and inflammatory comments on here without being asked.I am sure there was plenty he wanted to say but being club admin puts him in an awkward position at times.

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I repeat what I have already said, If Eric Whalley thinks this is the way forward, then I think he has got it badly wrong. I always buy tickets because I want the club to do well, but I will not be forced, by some ill mannered yob, to buy anything. If he can "sell sand to arabs" then I'm a genius, and trust me I'm not!! Come on Eric, you have more business sense than this.

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have to echo Kipax's sentiments here and say;if you have a question ask the club!Rob replied to my pm and then posted on this thread.He can't be expected to respond to random remarks and inflammatory comments on here without being asked.I am sure there was plenty he wanted to say but being club admin puts him in an awkward position at times.

So if anyone brings up a grivence, comment or suggestion on this forum then by your post the only way to get an answer is to pm the club and if Rob posts on here its his opinion and not the clubs. Funny thought the club would have liked to be able to stay in touch with the fans, I know they took it off the official website which I think was a mistake but anyone who does business would want to know how his customers react to his product unless the products so good it doesnt need criticism.

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I wasent expecting an answer as i went to the tamworth game and he was there apparantly. i got instucted not to buy tickets from him hehehe.

i was just saying that if this statement is true about his swearing and racism etc.. then i personally dont think he should stay at the club