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lindsay ormerod 28-03-2005 18:56

Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Well;a sure fire 3 pointer is what we expected; a point that we really didn't deserve was what we got! Where did it all go wrong? That was the most awful first half I have seen in a long time....Was it just tired legs? It appeared to me that half the players on that pitch couldn't recognise their own team mates! Mindless substitutions,Smithy on the bench again,it's enough to make you despair...do we really want the playoffs?????

Honourable mentions to Procky who never gave up and Matty O'Neill who was inspired;why not play him AND Rory????

fettler 28-03-2005 19:06

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
so sad, so sad. I came away depressed by the fact that our coach one Mr Cook came on as sub and immediately gave the ball to the opposition. A stinker of a first half then we play for the last ten minutes of the game like we want to win...... its a funny old game.

ossyclogger 28-03-2005 19:07

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
It all went wrong when Mr Coleman picked the starting lineup.

stanerlee 28-03-2005 19:09

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
poor game with 2 quality comeback goals.

well done matty o neill. super sub. hopefully he should get a start.

don't know about old butterfingers though. is it true that he is on definate starts every match cause he travels from norwich ?

lindsay ormerod 28-03-2005 19:14

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
I think that's the case,Danny cops for the midweek matches and Coco the Clown gets the weekends! Jamie used to make me nervous with his walkabouts but not like this dope!I have heard tonight that he is "the coach's best mate" make of it what you will.....

ossyclogger 28-03-2005 19:16

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Don't know, but if it wasn't for him I reckon we'd be up there with Barnet.

stanerlee 28-03-2005 19:17

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
perhaps we need to hear the ring of change?

baldy 28-03-2005 19:42

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
i agree danny has done nothing wrong and gets dropped

what is danny thinking

1.do i try my hardest in training all week knowing that no matter how good i impress
i still will be on the bench.
or
2.just turn up for training and pick the money up at the end of the week


well thats my opinion

zayno14 28-03-2005 19:45

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
crichton did not do anything wrong today so less of the blaming on him. Our team did not show up for 70 minutes and that has cost us dearly today. We can still do it but we must must must must beat crawley next week. SO get your name down and cheer the lads on down south and hopefully we get3 points.

PRIDE

PASSION

BELIEF

come on stanllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyy.............. ........

lindsay ormerod 28-03-2005 19:45

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Think it maybe time to change your signature Baldy,is Kestrel still in production????

zayno14 28-03-2005 19:46

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
come on we cant blame coley after one game people.......we need to united behind everyone!

lindsay ormerod 28-03-2005 20:01

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
I admire your optimism Zayno,but were you watching the same match?All the effort that the Ultras put in today was greatly appreciated by players and fans alike but you cannot deny the fact that the first 45 was absolutely diabolical!No matter how passionate you are about our team you have to accept that there are major issues when we play so badly.Who else do we blame;who makes the team selection;who decides on the substitutions? Mr Coleman is paid a wage to be a professional football manager and as such he should be big enough to expect the brickbats and the bouquets.

stanleybabe 28-03-2005 20:08

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Mr Coleman is paid a wage to be a professional football manager and as such he should be big enough to expect the brickbats and the bouquets

Well said, Lindsay.
And your description of Crichton as "Coco the Clown" was inspired!!!

Stanleybabe

maidstoneaccy 28-03-2005 20:16

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
lindsay i said more or less the same thing after fridays match, ithink a few people didnt like it, but its a fact

lindsay ormerod 28-03-2005 20:23

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Indeed;I fully expect my karma to drop as dramatically as our goal difference!But I am only speaking my mind and I left my rose tinted glasses in the Sports bar after the Morecambe match!

fettler 28-03-2005 20:28

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
coco the clown made people laugh, this "goalkeeper" doesn't make me laugh, he makes me think I am a poor judge of a footballer ( along with at least 1400 who watches coco play in our goals) I have one suggestion - Blu Tak on his gloves might doe the trick, I bet he doesn't drop his wages!!

Uncle Mick 28-03-2005 20:51

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Given the number of first timers on the ground today, that was a very poor advertisement for Conference football, exciting second half though!

John_Timmins 28-03-2005 20:58

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
come on why blame him for the game today he didnt pay badly and whilst he wears the shirt off accrington stanley u should surport him and anyone else who ears the mighty red shirt including cooky. We had a bad performance today but come on if u had been offered to be in this position at the start of the season would u not have grabbedit with open arms (i know i and many other fans would have) fith in the table and with still a chance of returning to the football league just a possible 10 pionts away form the playoffs

Todays performance was not the best but it your not happy with being 4 wins from 5 away from playoffs then theres no pleasing some people.

John_Timmins 28-03-2005 21:00

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Mick
Given the number of first timers on the ground today, that was a very poor advertisement for Conference football, exciting second half though!

I tell u summut though if there was alot of first timers im sure many will come back with a 2 goal fight back (exciting) and good banter between the fans ultras noisy once again. I think its better than they will get at rovers anyway. so lets hope they return but i think they will

RossendaleRed 28-03-2005 21:20

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Lets Remember, we are still in the play off positions...I dont think Crichton should be referred to as a clown though. Everyone makes mistakes, when goalkeepers make them they are crucial, look at Carroll, Seaman, the list continues....

Not many games left and we are in with a chance. I dont always agree with Mr Colemans decisions on team selection but there is nothing I can do about it. Like someone said earlier, he gets paid to pick a team. If we win then its great. if we lose and keep losing then I am sure he will gladly accept the consequences of it.

Lets get behind them, forgive the errors (until the end of the season) and cheer the team into the football league!!!!

harwood red 28-03-2005 22:06

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
ok, ok no one can doubt we are 100% behind the lads but when I hear the asst manager (ding dong) say "Crichton, best keeper in the league" then it does tend to make you a bit nervous! Plus he was promised if he came when we were down to one keeper he would be started unless he couldn't get there i.e midweek matches or was injured!

big al 28-03-2005 22:19

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
We started as we finished at Burton on Fri night-looking washed out & very little comitment. Thank goodness Evil is back for Saturday cos at this point in the season we need 11 players commitment not just two or three. Even Cookie said to me after the game it was diabolical-certailnly not what should be expected fron promotion contenders. The pressure is now on cos we need 15 points at least from our remaining games to be in with a shout. Not impossible-if we dont repeat todays performance. Sorry to say so but Cookie needs to let the main team players have a go too & only come on when the game is beyond doubt-two woeful performances we didnt need from last two games,coaching only from now on mate-WE WANT LEAGUE FOOTBALL TOO SO PLAY IT SAFE!!!!

Outback Ozzy 28-03-2005 22:45

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
I was one of those who brought 2 first timers today (one a wigan fan and one a neutral MUFC fan) - both have said they want to come again, so maybe it was not that bad. As for Coco the Clown, I thought he was that daft Barsteward in the middle in black. Denied us a stone wall penalty. Nowt wrong with Dave Browns first half goal either, he was running through the defence. Great substitutions though - very inspired. As was said on Radio Lancs after the game, that was our fourth game in 10 days whereas York had a week off. Says it all. I do wish J.C. would stop putting Cookie on for last 10 mins, we nearly lost the game because of his passing. Thought Ian Craney looked good today, and Mullers (I am not a great admirer of him) impressed me with his non-stop work today, even when he was held and the clown could not see it from 4 feet, never mind 10 yards. Good crowd as well - 2201. O.K. could have been better, but it was a better atmosphere than of late.
Yes we can still do it, but need others to trip up/lose. Although even from todays results, others are helping out.

baldy 28-03-2005 23:11

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
how can people blame coley. he puts the best side he thinks that will work and tell them what he wants them to do. thats all coley can do he cant be 11 men all at same time

then its up to the players and today i personally thought that we was creating chances but not putting them away like Lee Mc was doing. so hopefully now lee is back he can put away some of these chances that we have struggled to finish.

personally i would play danny in goals because when we played hereford on sky for hes debut he saved some cracking shots. and i dont think hes put a foot wrong.

well get as many friends as you can down to the I.E.S and cheers the red men on for the last couple of games and why not treat yourself and book on the coach to crawley and keep the spirt and cheer EVERY stanley player on till the end

ON STANLEY ON

Henry Morton 29-03-2005 01:26

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Lindsay , I believe you're absolutely right to say what you really think.

Whether it's politics , religion or football , you can be quite sure that anyone who wants to shoot the messenger is starting from a position of weakness.

Granted , there are those who will pass an opinion on something about which they know nothing , but your credentials are sound - as are those of other contributors to this thread.

You're not disloyal , in fact it's the ostriches who do any club a disservice.

Considered , constructive analysis - yes , even with a bit of criticism - is the lifeblood of any forum or club. Especially when we're pushing for promotion !

Morecambe_Red 29-03-2005 07:36

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Accy choked again !!
we are 3 points behind with a game in hand at home to Burton.
good job for you we let you win a couple of games !!

accyplus 29-03-2005 09:28

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Easter Monday fifty years ago Stanley played York City at Peel Park the score was 2-2,York
scored twice against the run of play,and in the second half Stanley managed to grab a couple of goals to share the points,this result dented Stanleys promotion bid to the second division,I remember it well because I was there,it seems yesterday result was a big case of
Jay Da Veu.

Wynonie Harris 29-03-2005 09:32

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Accyplus, see thread headed "A trip down memory lane".

accyplus 29-03-2005 10:40

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Thanks Wyn-Were you there ?..

Wynonie Harris 29-03-2005 10:59

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Nope, only 4 at the time. I learned about it by reading up on Stanley's history.

ossyclogger 29-03-2005 11:22

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zayno14
crichton did not do anything wrong today so less of the blaming on him.


York two shots on target.
York two goals.


come on we cant blame coley after one game people.......

How many times have we seen this posted this season ?

Cafu01 29-03-2005 11:23

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
one was a wicked deflection

John_Timmins 29-03-2005 12:12

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
were did u get that stat from as i can remember him saving a few shots

Cafu01 29-03-2005 13:59

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
i remember him saving a few as well. If your going to posts stats make sure they are right!!

Seagull 29-03-2005 16:17

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
I can remember at least three shots he saved. Now is not the time to be negative, give everyone your full support for the next five games and then start the inquest once the season has finished.

Cafu01 29-03-2005 16:20

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
I agree seagull

Mik Griff 29-03-2005 17:03

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossyclogger
York two shots on target.
York two goals.

Where do you get your stats from?

Stop talking ********

zayno14 29-03-2005 18:23

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
ye seagull lets just wait till the end of the season before any more negative comments....keep the faith people we can do it!

Alice 29-03-2005 18:45

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fettler
so sad, so sad. I came away depressed by the fact that our coach one Mr Cook came on as sub and immediately gave the ball to the opposition.

.....again!!!
What's left to say???.....except Big Al please let us know what your mate gets for appearance mony and I for one will gladley pay him to stay on the bench.

As for "cripes not Crighton again!"...I belive no more nails will stick anything.

Smiffy16 29-03-2005 18:51

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Cookey is paid no appearance money i can assure u that

Cafu01 29-03-2005 18:52

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Cooky doesnt have an appearence fee anymore!!!!

Cafu01 29-03-2005 18:52

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Beat me to it smiffy

ossyclogger 29-03-2005 19:51

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_Timmins
were did u get that stat from as i can remember him saving a few shots

I didn't get stats from anywhere, I watched the game. He caught a few high balls in the area, but he didn't save either of the direct shots.

zayno14 29-03-2005 19:57

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
According to the BBC york had 9 shot on goal. i dont know how many of them were on target but i remember crichton making a save from that Bishop and a few other york players.

Cafu01 29-03-2005 20:28

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
i remember he made a good save in the second half and a couple other easier ones. Was you watchin the same game ossyclogger seriously???

John_Timmins 29-03-2005 21:06

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
i remember him making at least one save becuase it hit his chest and bounced out then he recaught it

keyco 29-03-2005 21:59

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Alice, I suggest you read my post again. I only said I spoke to him after the match-not that he was a mate. Further quoted it was the second subbing in four days where he made mistakes & certainly lost us the game at Burton. As one nameless player said to me today" he came on & took a free kick straight away straight to the opposition". I dont doubt he can inspire & pass on some good skills as a coach but on the park is showing his age.
Maybe if more of the fans took the time to stop after & talk to the players than rant between themselves we would get more action on the park. Further to this support the lads on the field vocaly along with the Ultras. You dont need to be behind the goal anywhere in the ground will do. How many times have Coley & Eric said this really lifts the lads & shows our support. The lads know when they have performed badly as Monday, but they also need to be supported for their winning performances too. Fair weather supporters do no football club any good-look at Blackburn!!!! (By Big Al/using Keyco's site)

Alice 02-04-2005 11:35

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
Big Al

I'm sure many people, like me, would be only too glad to talk to the players after the game but they would have to come into the bar for us to do that. Last season no problem, this season different story! (with the exception of a few, Smithy, Paul Haworth, Rory).

As for getting behind the team why do you assume that, because someone criticises the actions of one of the players,therefore they do not get behind Stanley 100% and are somehow a "fairweather fan". I have supported Stanley for a long time, through thick and thin and don't question someone's faith just because they have a different opinion to me.

It's a sad day when we have to prove our "fan" credentials in order to be entitled to a point of view.

PS I did read your post and somehow got the impression you also thought it was time for Cook to stay off the pitch????

maidstoneaccy 02-04-2005 21:56

Re: Where did it all go wrong today?
 
After Todays Performance By Cook He Would Look Out Of Place In The Ultras Team


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