Scottish Referendum - Page 2

jaysay · 14-05-2011, 08:59

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Originally Posted by gynn

The term "Scottish Independence" is a complete misnomer. Independence from what?

What is being discussed is a repeal of the Act of Union, which will affect the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland as equally as the people of Scotland. Their views are just as valid, so must be included in any referendum.

Well its half way there already, at present we have Scots MPs vote on issues at Westminster that don't affect the people who voted for them, to me I can't see how that is anyway near being democratic, neither is people in England paying for elderly care, tuition fees, prescriptions and hospital parking, whilst the Scots get it free subsidised by the English tax payers, this situation could only happen in Britain, no beggar else would stand for it

MargaretR · 14-05-2011, 09:03

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Originally Posted by gynn

The term "Scottish Independence" is a complete misnomer. Independence from what?

What is being discussed is a repeal of the Act of Union, which will affect the people of England, Wales and Northern Ireland as equally as the people of Scotland. Their views are just as valid, so must be included in any referendum.

I agree - I want the border to be in Birmingham

shillelagh · 14-05-2011, 16:44

doubt if they'll go for it ....

jaysay · 15-05-2011, 09:10

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

doubt if they'll go for it ....

They know which side their bread's buttered

gynn · 26-06-2012, 03:41

Interesting to note that the campaign to keep Scotland in the Union is being led by a Labour politician, Alistair Darling.

Presumably putting a Conservative figure anywhere near the campaign would be seen as a gift to the SNP?

garinda · 26-06-2012, 04:42

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Originally Posted by gynn

Interesting to note that the campaign to keep Scotland in the Union is being led by a Labour politician, Alistair Darling.

Presumably putting a Conservative figure anywhere near the campaign would be seen as a gift to the SNP?

There was a high-profile launch of Better Together yesterday.

With the Scottish Conservative's Annabel Goldie pictured, together with Darling, hanging from the rafters, behind the cross-party's campaign banner, at Edinburgh station.

gynn · 26-06-2012, 05:41

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Originally Posted by garinda

There was a high-profile launch of Better Together yesterday.

With the Scottish Conservative's Annabel Goldie pictured, together with Darling, hanging from the rafters, behind the cross-party's campaign banner, at Edinburgh station.

It must be one of the few issues on which Labour Conservatives and LibDems agree.

The SNP argument seems to be founded on cherry picking the bits that suit them (eg North Sea Oil) but not the bits that don't (eg retaining the pound and the monarchy)

It is a completely fabricated case which adds up to total nonsense, and its only credibility seems to come from Alex Salmonds political nous.

garinda · 26-06-2012, 06:21

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Originally Posted by gynn

It must be one of the few issues on which Labour Conservatives and LibDems agree.

The SNP argument seems to be founded on cherry picking the bits that suit them (eg North Sea Oil) but not the bits that don't (eg retaining the pound and the monarchy)

It is a completely fabricated case which adds up to total nonsense, and its only credibility seems to come from Alex Salmonds political nous.

Yes, they're in for a shock.

When the price of deep-fried Mars bars soars, because of import tax.

gynn · 26-06-2012, 07:03

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Originally Posted by garinda

Yes, they're in for a shock.

When the price of deep-fried Mars bars soars, because of import tax.

...and when they have to find homes for (and pay benefits to) the many millions of their countrymen who moved south looking for a better life, and will be forcibly repatriated as undesirable aliens.

jaysay · 26-06-2012, 08:58

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Originally Posted by gynn

Interesting to note that the campaign to keep Scotland in the Union is being led by a Labour politician, Alistair Darling.

Presumably putting a Conservative figure anywhere near the campaign would be seen as a gift to the SNP?

The no to independence campaign is supported by the three main parties in jockland, Tory Lib/dem and Labour

jaysay · 26-06-2012, 08:59

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Originally Posted by garinda

Yes, they're in for a shock.

When the price of deep-fried Mars bars soars, because of import tax.

And don't forget deep fried Choc Ices either

garinda · 26-06-2012, 16:34

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Originally Posted by gynn

...and when they have to find homes for (and pay benefits to) the many millions of their countrymen who moved south looking for a better life, and will be forcibly repatriated as undesirable aliens.

Yes, pack your wee tartan bag Lulu.

You're going home hen.

cmonstanley · 26-06-2012, 19:34

i keep asking snp supporters one question,and that is currency

they havent got a clue

ToffeeGuy · 26-06-2012, 23:11

Scotland hasn't been independent for over 300 years. I can't think of any other country which has become separate after such a long time. Most of the European nations who have become independent in recent times where part of 'artifical' nations created in the war-torn 20th century. Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia etc.

Scotland wanting independence is a bit like Texas wanting independence from the USA. Or Mercia, Wessex, East Anglia and Northumbria wanting to split away from a unified England.

It isn't going to happen.

Boeing Guy · 27-06-2012, 07:00

I'm with Jay on this ne, the Welsh have the same benefits.
Give them indepenance, but of course, seeing territorial waters is only 13 miles off the coast we will keep the rigs