Bull Inn, Cocker Brook?

[Oddbod]

Does anyone know if the Bull Inn, Cocker Brook, Oswaldtwistle still exists?

It was there in 1841 and an ancestor of mine was the innkeeper.

[garinda]

There is no pub of that name in Oswaldtwistle now, though the brook is still there.

Does it give an address, or an area as it might have changed it's name?

[garinda]

Cocker brook runs into Oswaldtwistle from Knuzden, through the area known as Brookside towards the Vine Mill, then flows down through the White Ash area to Foxhill, then it goes on towards Church.

I can't think of many places were the Inn could have been, as it really doesn't flow through the town, though it does go past the foundations of quite a few old buildings, both at Brookside and Higher Twynch.

[Tealeaf]

I thought there was a White Bull pub up New Lane? Any possible connection there?

[garinda]

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/servlets/D...nty=10lancs191


As Tealeaf said, there is a pub called the White Bull on New Lane. On the mid nineteenth century map of the area, it is opposite Immanuel/Emmanuel church. Cocker brook you can see running to the north east of there, about half a mile away, and you can follow it's progress if you look for Smithy Brook.

[Oddbod]

Thanks for your help and suggestions!

The 1841 census gives the order in which the census was taken as:-

Rushton House
Hole Bottom
Clough
Cockerly
Slanderly
Cocker Brook
Bull Inn
Piers Row
Colliers Row

I have just found an old map of Oswaldtwistle on the site on the web, dated 1849 and I have managed to follow the route up to Cocker Brook. At this point there seems to be a pub called the Black Bull Inn which I assume maybe is the census "Bull Inn". I couldn't find Piers Row or Colliers Row.

cheers

[treacletart]

colliers row is part of union rd just before you get to the palladium

[panther]

theres a Cocker Brook Farm
Haslingden Old Rd
Oswaldtwistle was it near there maybe?

[panther]

.......or was it not up nook lane?? besides cocker chemicals is up there sorry WAS!!

[Oddbod]

I've looked through the censuses for 1841 to 1901. The Bull Inn was known as the Black Bull Inn by 1901. It was situated near to the junction of Haslingden Old Road (A677) and Cobbs lane. Cocker Brook also flows past this point. There was also a Cocker Brook School at this crossroads.

I don't think the Black Bull Inn operates as a pub any more but using Google Earth and an old map from 1848 it is possible to see the building that was the Inn. I have attached a copy of the maps.

cheers

[panther]

wheres cobbs lane??
ive lived in ossy on me blimmin life and i aint a clue!!

[Oddbod]

I've attached a modern map which shows Cobbs Lane as being a continuation of Pot House Lane . . . . .

[garinda]

Originally Posted by panther

wheres cobbs lane??
ive lived in ossy on me blimmin life and i aint a clue!!

It goes down the side of the bottom reservoir, towards the Jack House.

It's actually the only place to park if you want to go walking up on the moors, now that the carpark/picnic area is closed, and hopefully isn't full of stuff people have tipped, or have left burnt out cars.

[MargaretR]

As a child I used to go often to Cockerly Farm with my mum, dad and brother. There was a romany type caravan parked up there and stayed overnight sometimes. The farmer was Billy Finch. I used to play with his daughter Marion (she later made ice cream on Fielding Lane). We used to go in our old Austin 7, up Fielding lane, right down Pot House Lane, then a sharp uphill left (at Hoyle Bottom?)to get to the farm.
I havent been up there for about 45 years, so the road system might have changed for better access by now.
I have looked on map websites and the farm doesn't appear named, but there are buildings still there on maps and on Google Earth.

[MargaretR]

PS just looked again on Google Earth.
Cockerly farm access from Pot house Lane is BEFORE the reservoir and the farm is at the junction of 3 roads, 2 of which lead up to the 'top road' -dont remember those 2 roads existing in the 1940's