Now you see it, now you don't.

garinda · 23-03-2006, 21:51

Another empty property in Oswaldtwistle.

The old Post Office, that re-opened as one of Kevin Horkin's Spex glasses shops, has closed down after opening in a blaze of publicity before Christmas.

That now joins the aromatheraphy/candle shop which lasted barely a month.

Yet the council are still intent on passing plans for more proposed new retail units in the borough, as well as wanting to expand the retail park at Whitebirk.

Madness.

joobyjooby · 24-03-2006, 07:41

Such a shame about the shops in ossy, it used to be a thriving little town but now your ok if you want something to eat, a pint or your hair cut! Try to find owt you need and your stumped!!

Gayle · 26-03-2006, 09:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

Yet the council are still intent on passing plans for more proposed new retail units in the borough, as well as wanting to expand the retail park at Whitebirk.

I'm not sure that the Council are intent on passing these plans, in fact I think it's the opposite and a lot of Councillors are set against them.

I received a letter today, that I presume has been sent to all the residents in Hyndburn, from Peel Holdings asking for comments from residents. I presume that is because they want to get some support for their planning application. Did anyone else recieve one?

MITZY · 26-03-2006, 14:26

We have not received anything unless it was inside the freebie paper, in which case it would be shredded and put in the paper sack along with the other unwanted junk

park381 · 28-03-2006, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayle

I'm not sure that the Council are intent on passing these plans, in fact I think it's the opposite and a lot of Councillors are set against them.

I received a letter today, that I presume has been sent to all the residents in Hyndburn, from Peel Holdings asking for comments from residents. I presume that is because they want to get some support for their planning application. Did anyone else recieve one?

Yes, very nice and glossy, but is that not the sort of place everyone shops at now for the larger domestic items. That is unless you can find what you want in Accys £1 shops. What do our Councillors want, not so sure they know themselves

The plan put forward by Peel Holdings would provide more shops/stores and provide employment, not forgetting the extra business rates HBC would get.

Gayle · 28-03-2006, 16:51

My view is that these large out of town places exist anyway - Bolton, Preston, Manchester, etc and people do travel to them. So we are currently losing out on that investment. With that argument it makes sense to have one built in Hyndburn like Park says so that we get some of the extra employment and business.

However, it could be the final nail in Accrington's coffin if it isn't done properly. I would like to see some provisos that there is a significant portion of investment from these companies in the town centre as well. We can't just agree to the retail park without ensuring that we have a long term plan for the town centres. As far as I can see that's where we're lacking. The two can sit side by side if done properly. As I've said in other threads, lots of small towns have survived retail parks by becoming more quirky or individual.

garinda · 29-03-2006, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by park381

Yes, very nice and glossy, but is that not the sort of place everyone shops at now for the larger domestic items. That is unless you can find what you want in Accys £1 shops. What do our Councillors want, not so sure they know themselves

The plan put forward by Peel Holdings would provide more shops/stores and provide employment, not forgetting the extra business rates HBC would get.

Yes but at what cost?

There are already quite enough retail parks within easy driving distance, why do we need a bigger one?

Gayle · 29-03-2006, 13:45

Because if we have one in Hyndburn the area will benefit as a whole from the increased investment, ground rents, rates and employment opportunities. Like you say, people already drive out of the area to these places so why not have one within the area to get all the benefits?

However, I will keep saying, that I would only approve it myself if there were some provisos included i.e. some additional investment from these companies in the town centres as well.

Neil · 29-03-2006, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

why do we need a bigger one?

Because our pathetic little Boots doesn't sell Emily's dummies any more

park381 · 29-03-2006, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

Yes but at what cost?

Do you mean, what cost to build the new stores, or at what cost to Accrington town centre.......................£1

Madhatter · 30-03-2006, 01:31

You may find that if you dont find an out of town space for some stores they'll just close and leave. boots and wh smith are both moving out of town centres to retail parks.
Where is whitebirk, thought that's in blackburn. If it is, logically, the people who are going there are setting out go out of accy to a retail park, They've made a conscious decision to go to a retail park, and if it wasn't whitebirk it would be preston or bury.
I don't know why you keep mentioning on here accy is just pound shops cos i only saw two when i was up. I told the guy at clayton tnt that i was popping into accy and he said its ok for pound shops too.
Perhaps you should stop slating your own town for something it's not, ccy is not that bad a town centre, you've got lots of high street shops, you've got some lovely buildings.
It's ossy that needs regenerating. Shopping trends have changed, wether you like it or not, retail parks are in, small towns and markets are out, people travel to the bigger shopping areas. Ossy is small but perfectly formed, but hasnt got the footfall to sustain the shops you mention. Building more shops is not the answer.

entwisi · 30-03-2006, 07:03

Whitebirk technically falls under Hyndburn for rates etc

park381 · 30-03-2006, 07:07

That part of Whitebirk is in Hyndburn, so any new shops would mean more rates for HBC. I think that the people saying "No" to this development should be looking at ways of keeping Accy centre alive.

garinda · 31-03-2006, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by park381

That part of Whitebirk is in Hyndburn, so any new shops would mean more rates for HBC. I think that the people saying "No" to this development should be looking at ways of keeping Accy centre alive.

Although technically in Hynburn, and our coffers would be increased through rates etc., it would be another nail in the coffin of Accrington as a place to shop.

SPUGGIE J · 31-03-2006, 16:29

If they did biuld one we might as well just build housing in the town centre. Shops struggle as it is with the out of towners as it is without shoving another one in the boundries.