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Straightforward question.
Should we legalise illegal drugs? |
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Easy question, easy answer -for some.
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Let's hope this does not turn into a 1000 post plus arguement...
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You can not put cannabis in same bracket as the others .. that's just crazy!
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When taken literally, it would prevent morphine being used by sufferers of terminal cancer - I refrain from voting. Nothing is ever so 'black or white' - the 'shades of grey' have been ignored. |
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Which asked the question 'legalise illegal drugs?'. This poll asks the same question raised there. |
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Incidentally codeine is illegal in some countries. |
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Morphine is prescribed for cancer sufferers so it is not illegal for them to use it.
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Voted - NO
Needs another option. Should we re look at the current classification of drugs. |
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Should we 'legalise illegal drugs?'. All that's required to that question is a simple yes, or no. |
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I hope they do legalise Cannabis.
Perhaps it will stop all these "farms" that are uncovered when the police raid certain houses and find the occupier has turned it into a Tax Free little earner for themselves. One of these was found in Wigan when the grower set fire to his house and his neighbours houses. Anger at fire damage - Local News - Wigan Today |
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And, by the way, I voted "yes".
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But the answer doesn't seem to be just no end of story does it. Oh and Just because Rindi has said does not mean that's its now. |
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I ask since you quoted my post. |
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So we could clearly see what support there is here, for recreational drugs to be made legal. |
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Most peoples opinions have been formed by "mis-information" so this poll will never be fair! Cannabis should be legalised!:alright: |
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I've already fully discussed my views in the thread, which asked should illegal drugs be legalised. I won't be repeating what I've already said, or posting further in that thread. Having to constantly repeat things, for the pro-recreational drug supporters, became very dull. |
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So far, the majority of people crying foul seem to be from the Yes voters. This is a poll. Which part of that sentence do they not understand?
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Cannabis has zero deaths Alcohol is far more dangerous & the stats prove that Ban the booze I say :rolleyes: |
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That could have you in trouble with the religious leaders. |
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Are you saying that people do not use heroin and cocaine to achieve some kind of 'high'....and as some part of their 'social scene'? The other thread wasn't called Legalise Cannabis....it didn't specify which illegal drugs should be legalised. You tell us that cannabis has caused no deaths........but you do not take into account the users who go on to other illegal drugs when cannabis fails to give the user the buzz that they are looking for. Neither do you take into account, those whose mental health has been affected by the use of this substance. As Less has said, there are regulations which are in place for the sale of alcohol and tobacco. And as for statistics, you can make them prove any damn thing you want. |
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I am talking about cannabis alone = 0 deaths I will ask you .. please put up statistics regarding alcohol & lets see the difference as to which is more dangerous & how alcohol effects the body & mind over the long term . The amount of harm & money that alcohol costs this country is huge but that is OK because its legal & it can be taxed |
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This is primarily a poll. It isn't supposed to be like the other thread.
The thread is not about legalising drugs at all....it is about canvassing votes in support of, or against, legalising drugs.... that is something very different. I have never said that alcohol and tobacco are without their dangers .......I don't feel that I need to provide you with statistics, statistics can be manipulated to make them mean what you want them to mean(i.e. that is, in favour of whatever argument you are putting forward). |
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Alcohol = untold misery . costing millions if not billions , 400k a year deaths ? there is no comparison really Blah blah blah |
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Despite simple explanations, this post shows that you just don't get it. One is a discussion. One is a poll - couldn't be simpler. |
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Did you get that figure wrong? 'Million if not billions'? In 2009/10 alcohol tax raised £14.6 BILLION, tobacco tax raised £11.1 BILLION in 2010/11. The country makes an overall profit out of it's drinkers/smokers, unlike the illegal drug takers. Anyone going in hospital with alcohol/tobacco problems should get a private room and a personal care team! |
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http://alcoholism.about.com/b/2003/1...accidents.html First person in Britain to die directly from cannabis poisoning? Cannabis is blamed for teen's death | Macclesfield Express - menmedia.co.uk Cases Journal | Full text | Cardiac arrest following cannabis use: a case report |
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No they probably started with alcohol and tobaco then smoked cannabis |
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The point is that a lot of people who think Cannabis should remain illegal are like those who thought the earth is flat - their ideas are based on incorrect information! :rolleyes: |
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I disagree, I would like to think that as a professional Aviator who at any time has many lives in his hands, I take a reasoned and open minded approach to what I read and see. I am against legalising any of the current batches illegal drugs. I have read scientific journals and papers and read this and other threads with interest. If some one wants to abuse themselves that is up to them and I can see a arguement for regulating drugs, in order to give the Tax man a cut. However I could not see this being a solution, mainly because we cannot stop drug lords and organised crime from bringing supplies into the country and then selling them on the black market, after all they would not just roll over and give up their money supply. We have no test available to easily see if some one is stoned on pot, unlike the breatherzer there is no simple roadside test, this is a problem in its own right. I have not seen or read anything on this forum to make me reconsider my view. |
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To completely wipe out and stop cannabis use would cause serious misery to a lot of people who want to take this drug!
Because of the law - criminals have brought in a type of Cannabis called SKUNK! This is grown in doors in cannabis farms and because it is forced to grow fast there is an inbalance of the natural chemicals in the plant this imbalance makes the SKUNK 20 - 30 times stronger than naturally grown Cannabis! THIS HAPPENS BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL! The chemical that is linked to mental illness is THC and the levels of this chemical in SKUNK is much higher than the chemical CBD which has the opposite effect! IT SHOULD BE LEGALISED AND REGULATED AND THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD ISSUE LICENSES TO GROWERS IT SHOULD BE LABELLED BY STRENGTH AND SOLD IN SHOPS! THIS WOULD BE SAFER THAN TRYING TO DESTROY AND TOTALLY STOP CANNABIS USE! :alright: |
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You cannot eradicate drug abuse.
You should know that. Te problem is Organised Crime make a lot of money off drugs, they would not stop. As I already said. Quite reasonably |
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Tobacco and booze are drugs that can lead to other illegal drugs! Organised Crime make money from all sorts of legal things - decriminlising cannabis and having it marked up with strength and quality control will be better for all concerned! |
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Educated people of the time, knew the world wasn't flat. Education wasn't given to the masses back then, but to compare a discussion about legalising Drugs with the ignorance of the peasants seems a touch desperate and to show you clutching at straws somewhat, in an attempt to make your point, (whatever that point may be, it seems lost in your ramblings and links). |
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First person in Britain to die directly from cannabis poisoning? |
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Making Cannabis illegal has opened the door for criminals to manufacture SKUNK - which is speed grown cannabis and it has been established this upsets the normal chemical balance in the plant - which makes it more dangerous! So it's making it illegal that is causing all the problems that people like you are so happy to keep going on about! If cannabis wasn't illegal then SKUNK would not have been invented! OR ARE YOU A BIT DUM TO UNDERSTAND? :dummy2: |
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Back before the internet there used to be a group of people that would send letters to the newspapers, Councillors etc. To emphasise their main points they would write them in capitals, when ignored or challenged for their ramblings, the next stage would be either to attempt a put down, (as above though you failed miserably), or else start sending their correspondance using coloured pens as if this would make them seem more knowledgable. This facility is available on AccyWeb, any time you want to imitate your wax crayons please feel free, the actual content of your posts will remain just as invalid. |
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Speed grown? Skunk is grown under Sodium Lights, will take 8-16 weeks from start to finish dependant on the strain and processed user to grow. Yes you can get many different strains / strengths of cannabis just like Alcohol. I wouldn't class myself as dumb, but I don't understand. "If cannabis wasn't illegal then SKUNK would not have been invented!" |
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I've done my drugs so I'm not really bothered about this debate! Skunk is not naturally grown and was started by drugs dealers to save themselves having to run the gauntlet of importing the stuff! It has high levels of THC and THC is what is more likely to make users psychotic. In natural plants it is balanced out by CBD which has a more calming sedating effect! DrugScope | DRUG INFORMATION | Skunk Quote from above link: 'Traditional' herbal cannabis ranges from between two and four per cent THC content. The more potent varieties average between 10 and 14 per cent with the trend being towards even higher levels of THC. The original skunk was a cross between Indica and Sativa cannabis stock, with the fast-growing Indica as the main ingredient. It was generally believed among regular users and growers that Sativa produced a 'high' (sharperned and heightened perception) while Indica produced a 'stoned' effect (just about the opposite). The original hybrids, including skunk itself, are believed to have originated in the USA. The name Skunk itself points to a USA connection (being so-called because of the pungent odour it emits while growing). They have since been refined and cross-bred into a range of different varieties by Dutch growers. Skunk and the other varieties are now being grown in significant quantities in the Netherlands and Britain. British growers now boast that they are ahead of the Dutch in techniques and quality. They also claim that seed being produced here makes the British market self-sufficient. |
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Do cheap shots include unsigned karma ? Some folk have no bottle.
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That was green. The big, stupid dope forgot to hit the negative button. :D |
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G....that is what you call real Karma!
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If it was legalised the strength would be known - on the packet and people who don't want to get their "brains blown" would be able to buy weaker goods! As it stands it's pot luck! :) |
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Pardon my ignorance though, but isn't the idea behind using this stuff to, 'blow your brain'? Otherwise just smoke fags and stand outside the pubs along with the rest of the less adventurous amongst us. |
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I used to smoke it and then listen to music (various kinds) through headphones - it enhances the music 10 fold and makes everything sound more intense, well defined. Also have worked on it! |
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Just enjoy the weed if you want to and don't think you can change peoples opinions! |
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This was another affect that the anorexic sufferer experienced. Said that it did enhance colours, music, etc., but made issues focus on reality. In other words, anorexia is a mental disease which distorts the truth, but whilst puffing on a 'spiff' it brought the non reality into reality, and helped to see what was happening to them. Does that make sense ? I appreciate your information on cannabis, and it would discourage the manufacture of 'skunk', which sounds dangerous, and I am not convinced in its best form, that it is particularly dangerous or addictive. My one reason I would vote against legalising it is that, until there is some sort of system in place to catch cannabis drivers I could not endorse it. You surely do have concentration required for the road ? There does appear to be paranoid issue too, although not of a violent nature, just argumentative. |
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Voted no but the poll is restricted..legalise cannabis? maybe but not really a big issue to me...make cocaine or heroin legal.. no.
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It's just that Eric seems so relaxed about life, he seems to just 'do his own thing' and not worry too much about what the rest of the world thinks- I love it! I'd also love to have a Cadillac and a Harley Davidson like he does! |
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Although perhaps it's because he leads the bachelor life now! No ball and chain? |
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Couldn't possibly comment on the second possibility... especially where Eric's concerned! |
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Now I'm getting that pretty lilac coloured karma. Which either means the person is new, or has negative power. Bless 'em. Still, it is a lovely shade. Perhaps the weak should adopt it, as a change from yellow. :D |
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As far as I remember it's what you get when a member gives you karma but hasn't any themselves or hasn't contributed a certain number of posts ie a fairly new member. |
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I never said legalise illegal drugs anyway! I was just asking a question that's all? I don't think Heroine or Coke should be legalised. :hehetable Cannabis yes! |
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