Gun Control

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by gynn

Can someone tell me where I'm going wrong in thinking that the blood of those murdered children is as much on the hands of anyone arguing against tougher gun laws in the US as it is on the hands of the 'deranged 24 year old'?

Did anyone say you were?

[accyman]

yes banning guns in america will stop lunartics walking into schools and blasting children to kingdom come because when we banned guns in the UK not one criminal since that day has shot a child with a gun nor has any criminal ever hurt anyone since that day with a gun

get a grip if they ban guns the bad guys still get their hands on them

terrible thing that happened but if guns had been banne dit would most likely still have happened

[cashman]

Far as i know guns have always been banned here,unless yeh got a licence from the police station? apart from air guns etc that is.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by cashman

Far as i know guns have always been banned here,unless yeh got a licence from the police station? apart from air guns etc that is.

government introduced a total ban apart from a few exceptions after that lunartic went mental in hungerford i think it was

took guns away from people who kept guns in safe storage in their homes and were only used at gun clubs etc yet police still find themselves needing an armed response unit and officers patroling airports with machin guns

not defending guns just pointing out the obvious that banning something dosnt stop it

[cashman]

Originally Posted by accyman

government introduced a total ban apart from a few exceptions after that lunartic went mental in hungerford i think it was

took guns away from people who kept guns in safe storage in their homes and were only used at gun clubs etc yet police still find themselves needing an armed response unit and officers patroling airports with machin guns

not defending guns just pointing out the obvious that banning something dosnt stop it

Fair enough, i lost interest long before that due to the police refusing to give us a licence.

[Restless]

America's worst school shooting: Nation rocked by massacre as gunman kills 20 children - Americas - World - The Independent

And yet people still believe in God.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Restless

And yet people still believe in God.

Don't get fixated with this God thing he gave you free will to believe or not believe, he also gave them the free will to kill or not to kill.
It's just his little get out clause and don't forget his son died to clear everyone of their sins, even Stalin is innocent.

[accyman]

Originally Posted by Restless

America's worst school shooting: Nation rocked by massacre as gunman kills 20 children - Americas - World - The Independent

And yet people still believe in God.

you mean the same god that gives aids to babies in africa ?

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by accyman

you mean the same god that gives aids to babies in africa ?

So all the mothers that pass on Aids to their unborn children had sexual intercourse with God?
As stated in the preceding post, God gave us the will to choose - unless you live in a communist or many Islamic countries.

[Boeing Guy]

Actually the ban on most guns was brought in after the Dunblane School killings in 1996, by the then Conservative Government. All the guns used in that massacre were Legally held.
In 1997 The Labour Government then ameded the law to ban all of them.

The Hungerford Killings were again committed with legally held guns.

I'm with Gynn and Barrie and everyone else here who is Pro gun control.
I have no doubt obtaining Illegal firearms is easy, I'm a scouser after all, but that is no excuse for not controlling the supply.
Of course there's always the NRA to tell us were wrong......

[susie123]

I have just been reading the BBC news account of what happened in this case and it appears that the gunman killed his mother at home (she was a teacher at the school) and then drove to the school with several weapons.

At the school he had to be buzzed in to the building - this was done by the head teacher who recognised him. Surely she would have seen that he was carrying weapons even if they were in a case? He appeared to start shooting straight away. We can't ask the teacher if she saw the weapons as she is one of the victims of the shooting.

[cashman]

Fact he was the son of a teacher yon, nowt wrong probably would enter the heads head?

[susie123]

Originally Posted by cashman

Fact he was the son of a teacher yon, nowt wrong probably would enter the heads head?

Not even if he were carrying several items which could have been weapons?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by susie123

Not even if he were carrying several items which could have been weapons?

very easy to be wise after event susie, if the lad was a regular visitor to the school, who knows? he could possibly have carried parcels etc in the past, possibly even those were checked? who knows? i sure as hell don't.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by susie123

Not even if he were carrying several items which could have been weapons?

Easy to hide two handguns, just push them in your belt and put a jacket on.
He had a rifle but it was found in his car. So nothing for the teacher to see.