I saw a UFO!

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Oh deary me, you really have gone over to the dark side Sue, BBC Radio 4 !!!!

She'll be reading the Mail next Dave

[davemac]

Originally Posted by Restless

How in the world can you say that after all ya walks along the canal

Yes, but when I walk on the canal both of my feet are in contact with the earth.

[davemac]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Na can't agree on this one Dave, one over the eight of Bitter but drugs na

The thing with alcoholic beverages is that you tend to look down at the pavement, the more you have the closer you get. From distant memory focus was never enhanced, hence the saying beer goggles

[Eric]

Originally Posted by susie123

Spot on Eric - would love to have met the man. Eric and J B S Haldane... and me. Not bad company to keep. Have to say the only thing by him that I've read is his children's book My Friend Mr Leakey. But on looking him up on Wikipedia just now I came across a poem which ends

"...I know that cancer often kills,
But so do cars and sleeping pills;
And it can hurt one till one sweats,
So can bad teeth and unpaid debts.
A spot of laughter, I am sure,
Often accelerates one’s cure;
So let us patients do our bit
To help the surgeons make us fit."

I second that!

BTW did you know that Haldane died on your birthday?

What a coincidence ... I was born on my birthday

[davemac]

Originally Posted by Eric

What a coincidence ... I was born on my birthday

And I bet your mother was there as well.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by davemac

And I bet your mother was there as well.

No ... it was a saturday; so, she was at Peel Park watching Stanley

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Eric

No ... it was a saturday; so, she was at Peel Park watching Stanley

Ha she picked you up from under the gooseberry bush after the final whistle then Eric

[kestrelx]

Fact is I am always looking up for Hawks, Buzzards, Red Kites and other birds flying over so I have a good sense of perspective. There are planes flying over every few minutes down here.

The day was pure blue sky, with very few clouds, no haze. I saw what I assumed to be a Aircraft shining reflecting light - it went into a small cloud and I expected the craft to come out the other side! Except nothing did. I wasn't drinking or had taken any drugs - I believe this was Alien Spacecraft! Or some new cloaking device used on some military aircraft! End of!

[Guinness]

There's life out there, I have no doubt, the cosmos is simply too vast. Both the Fermi paradox and Drake equation sound perfectly plausible to me.

As for Alien visits, little green/grey men, abductions, crop circles and experiments on cattle, I'm a total sceptic.

Can't for the life of me find it on the interweb to give the link but I'm sure I once read a paper by Carl Sagan that described an approach by an alien craft to Earth.

The crux of it was, if I recall correctly, that any aliens scanning the planet would most likely regard us as parasites and vehicles as the actual lifeform.

I'm with Eric on this one, yeah there are plenty of UFO's out there but they are all of Earthly origin

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Guinness

There's life out there, I have no doubt, the cosmos is simply too vast. Both the Fermi paradox and Drake equation sound perfectly plausible to me.

As for Alien visits, little green/grey men, abductions, crop circles and experiments on cattle, I'm a total sceptic.

Can't for the life of me find it on the interweb to give the link but I'm sure I once read a paper by Carl Sagan that described an approach by an alien craft to Earth.

The crux of it was, if I recall correctly, that any aliens scanning the planet would most likely regard us as parasites and vehicles as the actual lifeform.

I'm with Eric on this one, yeah there are plenty of UFO's out there but they are all of Earthly origin

It always amuses me that when folks describe aliens, the "creatures" they describe are not really all that alien. Most are bipeds, the early "hollywood" ones anyway. They seem to have little trouble breathing our atmosphere. Most have "human" sense organs: eyes, ears, mouth, nose etc ... they seem to adapt well to our gravity. Not only that, they arrive in machines with all kinds of neat technology ... as if, in a possibly infinite universe, the only way to get around is in some sort of conveyance. As if, indeed, the only way to be an intelligent life form is to be like us. And their behaviour is uncannily human.

There is a problem with defining aliens in terms of "intelligence" and "life" ... in other words, we define them in our terms, ones that we can understand. I think a little reification, and lots of anthropomorphization going on here.

[MargaretR]

Ancient mythology, including the bible, indicates that humans are the result of genetic engineering performed on early apes, in which 'their' (what we call ETs) genes were mixed to make ours.

Since they had to be here to do that, they would either -
..have to have been here before us and evolved from some other species
..or, arrived here, choosing this planet as being 'habitable' for them.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Ancient mythology, including the bible, indicates that humans are the result of genetic engineering performed on early apes, in which 'their' (what we call ETs) genes were mixed to make ours.

Since they had to be here to do that, they would either -
..have to have been here before us and evolved from some other species
..or, arrived here, choosing this planet as being 'habitable' for them.

Ancient mythology and the bible also indicate that a man can survive for weeks inside a whale, the whole earth was covered in water for 40 days, swans and showers of gold produced children and that thunder and lightning is caused by a bloke with long blond hair hitting an anvil with his hammer.

Not exactly trustworthy sources.

[MargaretR]

I find it more than any possible coincidence that myths from all areas of the globe all have references to 'reptilians'.

These 'myths' are illustrated in archeological artifacts.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Can't for the life of me find it on the interweb to give the link but I'm sure I once read a paper by Carl Sagan that described an approach by an alien craft to Earth.

Carl Sagan wrote a book entitled Dragons of Eden

The Dragons of Eden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He is mentioned at length in episode 4 of the video playlist I used in my last post.

[Guinness]

Yes I'm aware of the book, David Icke bastardised Sagans musings on the reptilian brain, into a reptilian spacefaring race that currently rules the Earth.