I'm going outside now, I may be some time

Ken Moss · 13-10-2011, 08:18

Cllr Britcliffe made a spectacular early exit from a meeting yesterday, this time at Cabinet. After leaving an Overview and Scrutiny Committee meeting in May, the ejection from Full Council in June and then the en masse walkout from Full Council in September I'm just wondering if this is a new trademark?

Bye bye 'good news', hello Captain Oates....

entwisi · 13-10-2011, 08:22

I never quite understand why people do this or hang up the phone as you can't actually influence anything unless you are party to the conversation. IMHO it demostrates a lack of confidence in your ability to negotiate, debate or in the courage of your conviction itself.

Otherwise know as Childish.....

Tealeaf · 13-10-2011, 08:46

Is there not an analogy here? If this was a board meeting of a private company, then a director who regularly walked out of meetings would be dismissed. It seems to me that the most important role of a councillor is to attend meetings such as this if elected to do so. However, local councils are a democracy and providing a councillor is not in fragrant breach of the rules then he is only answerable to his electorate. But surely questions must now be asked as to the level of financial remuneration that this councillor is claiming to do a job which he is blatantly not doing.

jaysay · 13-10-2011, 08:50

Can we have information what the ruling group are now doing for the council tax payers, such as the new Core Strategy and Accrington Area Action Plan,instead of all this piffle

Ken Moss · 13-10-2011, 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay

Can we have information what the ruling group are now doing for the council tax payers, such as the new Core Strategy and Accrington Area Action Plan,instead of all this piffle

Sorry John, thought you were someone else for a moment.

Here you go:

Accrington Town Centre Area Action Plan - Accrington Area Action Plan (AAP)

Boeing Guy · 13-10-2011, 09:00

Maybe he wanted to check his Blackberry?

jaysay · 13-10-2011, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Sorry John, thought you were someone else for a moment.

Here you go:

Accrington Town Centre Area Action Plan - Accrington Area Action Plan (AAP)

No need to give me the link mate, was sent it officially through the post

Bob Dobson · 13-10-2011, 09:29

A fragrant breach ? This sort of thing leaves a bad smell. Kick up a stink, Ken.

garinda · 13-10-2011, 09:39

I'm certainly not making excuses, as I'm supposedly a Labour apologist.

However, he's had a traumatic time very recently, discovering the dead body of a close (mutual) friend.

Probably nothing to do with this, but cutting him a little slack, if it is, might be appreciated.

Margaret Pilkington · 13-10-2011, 10:01

While I understand that personal problems can influence our actions in everyday life, he is in a position of responsibility and should be able to manage his life.(he has enough life experience)
Everyone has problems of one sort or another in these troubled times, it does not excuse what is, put simply, childish, diva type behaviour......it makes me think he isn't getting quite enough attention, so manufactures events/situations that will push him into the limelight again. How sad!

When I was in charge of staff I would offer what support I could, but made it quite clear that if they were not up to doing the job they were paid to do, then they should take sick leave/compassionate leave....if they chose to come to work then problems were left at the door and could be picked up again on their way out.

This may seem harsh but you have to be realistic....and you have a service to run, a job to do.

garinda · 13-10-2011, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

While I understand that personal problems can influence our actions in everyday life, he is in a position of responsibility and should be able to manage his life.(he has enough life experience)
Everyone has problems of one sort or another in these troubled times, it does not excuse what is, put simply, childish, diva type behaviour......it makes me think he isn't getting quite enough attention, so manufactures events/situations that will push him into the limelight again. How sad!

When I was in charge of staff I would offer what support I could, but made it quite clear that if they were not up to doing the job they were paid to do, then they should take sick leave/compassionate leave....if they chose to come to work then problems were left at the door and could be picked up again on their way out.

Perhaps I shouldn't have put that.
As I said, it isn't an excuse.
I do know he's devastated, and just wondered if it might be connected.

Margaret Pilkington · 13-10-2011, 10:10

If it is, then he should make it plain to his colleagues so that they could offer him some support....me, being the cynical person that I am, feel that is most likely to be the other reason I cited.......publicity starvation. A fall in his megalomania levels.

Margaret Pilkington · 13-10-2011, 10:12

He's just a bit long in the tooth to be chucking his toys out of the pram......spitting the dummy.
It will not gain him any friends or support.

gynn · 13-10-2011, 11:35

The Leader of the Opposition Party has no constitutional standing whatsoever at a Cabinet meeting. He made sure of that when he was Leader of the Council.

So his departure, however childish, attention-seeking or provocative, was basically irrelevant.

Tealeaf · 13-10-2011, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

I'm certainly not making excuses, as I'm supposedly a Labour apologist.

However, he's had a traumatic time very recently, discovering the dead body of a close (mutual) friend.

Probably nothing to do with this, but cutting him a little slack, if it is, might be appreciated.

Totally irrelevant. This is the fourth time he has exited a council meeting in the space of six months. Either this clown does the job he is paid to do or he makes way for someone else.