Is the Law stupid or what?

[cashman]

It seems this murderer who has absconded from prison, is NOT to be approached warn the authorities, my question is WHAT is a dangerous guy doing being put in an open prison? its downright stupid in my view, so now i can understand clearly the saying "The Law is an Ass" this stupid do-gooding could put innocent people at risk in my view.

[Accyexplorer]

It's a joke C,he's obviously considered a risk to the public so why was he in a open prison that has the easy and ever tempting option to go walkabouts (tut).
I hope they catch him and quickly.

[Rowlf]

He has been caught. It was on last evenings northern news and in today's paper. I totally agree murderers should not be in an open prison in the first place. I always thought these open prisons were for folk who had broken the law with fraud or the like. In my book murderers should get life and should mean life not 10 or 15 years which it seems to most of the time. This man had escaped once before in 1997 from a prison in Nottinghamshire so why on earth he was in an open prison beggers belief.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

He has been caught. It was on last evenings northern news and in today's paper. I totally agree murderers should not be in an open prison in the first place. I always thought these open prisons were for folk who had broken the law with fraud or the like. In my book murderers should get life and should mean life not 10 or 15 years which it seems to most of the time. This man had escaped once before in 1997 from a prison in Nottinghamshire so why on earth he was in an open prison beggers belief.

They used to be for Non-Dangerous people, far as i'm aware, but obviously the Do-Gooders have got that changed oer the years, if it was up to me i'd chuck them in goal as well.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Cashy.....I cannot believe that with all your life experience, you had to ask that question.
You know the answer is a resounding YES!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Cashy.....I cannot believe that with all your life experience, you had to ask that question.
You know the answer is a resounding YES!

I know Margaret, but honestly i never thought it was "THAT" stupid, the do-gooders have much to answer for imho.

[Margaret Pilkington]

the law can plumb the depths of stupidity with no thought for anything, because it is the LAW....and seemingly it is untouchable and need not answer to anyone.
You and I both know that 'common sense' is not a bit common.

[Accyexplorer]

It's a bit of a none story (as folk on here like to say)
All that time spent keeping his nose clean and then he goes walkabouts ,I hope his hours of freedom was worth the extra time

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

It's a bit of a none story (as folk on here like to say)
All that time spent keeping his nose clean and then he goes walkabouts ,I hope his hours of freedom was worth the extra time

Please explain how he kept his nose clean if (1) he had escaped before, (2) he was considered dangerous still?

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by cashman

Please explain how he kept his nose clean if (1) he had escaped before, (2) he was considered dangerous still?

It's all assumptions,I haven't seen the news or papers regarding this chap ,but I assume he was due for release having worked his way through the system and the powers that be considered him a low risk.
As for the don't approach or may be dangerous, i'd assume that was just protocol.....I may be wrong....it wouldn't be the first time

[Less]

Originally Posted by Rowlf

He has been caught. It was on last evenings northern news and in today's paper. I totally agree murderers should not be in an open prison in the first place. I always thought these open prisons were for folk who had broken the law with fraud or the like. In my book murderers should get life and should mean life not 10 or 15 years which it seems to most of the time. This man had escaped once before in 1997 from a prison in Nottinghamshire so why on earth he was in an open prison beggers belief.

Obviously you don't believe in the great myth of reform, to get to a position of power and decision within our prisons higher echelons, you have to prove that you believe all that have been caught no matter how bad their crime might be, are capable of reform, therefore you will be willing to put the general public at risk rather than restrain those that would without a great deal of hesitation repeat their offence.

Oh yes, most people can be reformed but there are some that should be locked away and though I don't condone the idea of throwing away the key, it should at least be buried under a lifetimes amount of paperwork, perhaps just enough of which would protect at least one innocent member of the public from the potential repeat offender?

[jelly baby]

As far as I am aware, if you abscond from an open (cat C) prison, then you go back to a cat A prison to serve out the rest of your sentence with no chance of parole in the future.
JB x

[boxermum]

Originally Posted by cashman

It seems this murderer who has absconded from prison, is NOT to be approached warn the authorities, my question is WHAT is a dangerous guy doing being put in an open prison? its downright stupid in my view, so now i can understand clearly the saying "The Law is an Ass" this stupid do-gooding could put innocent people at risk in my view.

OMG.....don't get me started on the stupidity of the law.
My son was murdered in a totally unprovoked attack by a 16yr old girl.Well known to the police and social services. She admitted that she picked up a knife,thought I'll get a bigger one (premeditated or what).and attacked my beloved son.THE LAW handed her 3yr community order,no need for her to attempt escape,she wasn't 'locked up' at all....The law is not only 'an ass',..add hole to that statement and you're on the right road.In her case hopefully the road to HELL.

[Less]

Originally Posted by jelly baby

As far as I am aware, if you abscond from an open (cat C) prison, then you go back to a cat A prison to serve out the rest of your sentence with no chance of parole in the future.
JB x

Only if you are caught.