Labour Party

[cashman]

Utter rubbish, should everyone get a vote on who is Tory Leader or any other party? never heard such nonsense. people who can be bothered to pay the membership fees are the only ones who should vote,

[Margaret Pilkington]

You are welcome Steve.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

Utter rubbish, should everyone get a vote on who is Tory Leader or any other party? never heard such nonsense. people who can be bothered to pay the membership fees are the only ones who should vote,

When the labour leadership became vacant and the candidates were put up, there were droves of people joining the Labour Party....paying their three quid just for the privilege of voting(for Jeremy Corbyn).....but who is to say that these were bona fide labour supporters.
They may not even have ever voted labour. They may have wanted to divide the Labour Party.....a divided party is not one that is easily electable.....and does not form a sound opposition.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

When the labour leadership became vacant and the candidates were put up, there were droves of people joining the Labour Party....paying their three quid just for the privilege of voting(for Jeremy Corbyn).....but who is to say that these were bona fide labour supporters.
They may not even have ever voted labour. They may have wanted to divide the Labour Party.....a divided party is not one that is easily electable.....and does not form a sound opposition.

If thats what happened it would be a damn shame, i don't believe for 1 min that was the case,the only people i see who want to divide are those quitters and those who support this,

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by cashman

Utter rubbish, should everyone get a vote on who is Tory Leader or any other party? never heard such nonsense. people who can be bothered to pay the membership fees are the only ones who should vote,

Internal leadership elections are up to each political party to sort out. But in the final analysis, the general election is the one that REALLY counts and, in my opinion, Corbyn hasn't got what it takes to win one, no matter how highly his rank-and-file members may think of him.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I am not saying that people who joined the Labour Party at that time did so out of any reason than to be a labour supporter......but it is suspicious when a rank outsider is put up for leadership(and he WAS a rank outsider) and suddenly thousands of people are paying three quid so that they can cast a vote in the leadership election.
I would not join any political party so tha I could vote for a leader.....but looking at how things have gone it does seem plausible.
Labour are unelectable under the current leadership.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

If thats what happened it would be a damn shame, i don't believe for 1 min that was the case,the only people i see who want to divide are those quitters and those who support this,

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that there were people out there who could see that by dividing a party, it would weaken it and make it less viable at a general election.
Heck if I can see this, then certainly others in a position to influence things could see it......and it was what sprang to my mind at the time.....like I say, I am a cynical old baggage.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that there were people out there who could see that by dividing a party, it would weaken it and make it less viable at a general election.
Heck if I can see this, then certainly others in a position to influence things could see it......and it was what sprang to my mind at the time.....like I say, I am a cynical old baggage.

Not in my eyes people were thoroughly sick of what the Labour Party had become, anyone that wasn't is a closet Tory in my book,

[Jim Procter]

No one has mentioned that the Trade Unions back Corbyn 100 per cent

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Jim Procter

No one has mentioned that the Trade Unions back Corbyn 100 per cent

They wont jim, its become a media circus i think, the only thing is itssplitting the party even more.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by cashman

Utter rubbish, should everyone get a vote on who is Tory Leader or any other party? never heard such nonsense. people who can be bothered to pay the membership fees are the only ones who should vote,

Quite correct Cashy, there was talk that many Tories willingly paid the Labour Party Membership fee in order that they could vote for Corbyn in order to create chaos inthe Labour Party - if that is true they appear to have succeeded

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Quite correct Cashy, there was talk that many Tories willingly paid the Labour Party Membership fee in order that they could vote for Corbyn in order to create chaos inthe Labour Party - if that is true they appear to have succeeded

Yeh i heard the same Barrie, suspect it was deliberate stirring.To me the Blairites have destroyed the party.to their own ends.

[cashman]

Another brilliant tweet from G.J. "However many leadership elections it takes we must return the party to the 9.5 M Labour Voters" He seems to have 95 on the brain? but how stupid is that? Graham and his vipers are the reason most of the labour voters did a runner imho not Corbyn. That statement must mean that if Corbyn stands and is re-elected they are going to ignore the will of the Labour members Yet again. DISGRACEFUL

[JCB]

I doubt Graham Jones will be in Parliament much longer .

With the present shambles in the Labour Party , and a forthcoming General Election with a new Tory leader , I can see 1983 repeating itself .

A Conservative government with a large majority .

Hyndburn with a Conservative MP .

[cashman]

Originally Posted by JCB

I doubt Graham Jones will be in Parliament much longer .

With the present shambles in the Labour Party , and a forthcoming General Election with a new Tory leader , I can see 1983 repeating itself .

A Conservative government with a large majority .

Hyndburn with a Conservative MP .

Unfortunately yeh may be right on the mark wi that JCB Mind even though i never voted for him A.Davidson i didn't find a bad bloke at all. and he wasn't a local chap either.