Should we 'legalise illegal drugs'? - Poll. - Page 32

Restless · 03-09-2012, 06:14

Agreed- I think all that can be said has been said in this thread. Too depressing to keep reading it. After my trip back from hove/winchester i am going to ignore this thread. Life is better without it

Mick · 03-09-2012, 06:15

As some of you will know me and a friend have just got back from a trip to Amsterdam
where cannabis is legal .
but it can only be smoked in the designated cafe shops and is controlled there is no problems with it there there is very little crime and the city what we saw was clean and no empty shops for rent or sale that we could see at all your not allowed to walk the streets with a joint, the only obnoxious people we met was a group of people from Blackburn that where shouting obscenities and being a nuisance and it was the women doing most of the shouting.

garinda · 03-09-2012, 06:17

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Im curious now though. Will any drug users come forward and answer garinda's questions?

Perhaps there'll be no beneficial change, to how they enjoy their drugs, if they were legalised.

Sp there's no need to reply.

Restless · 03-09-2012, 06:19

My friend at work went on a late honeymoon to France and had the same experience. He had walked up to someone and attempted to talk to someone in French for directions or whatever. The guy had replied "do I look like a £$%£$%" or something like that back to him in an English accent.

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from Blackburn that where shouting obscenities and being a nuisance and it was the women doing most of the shouting.

garinda · 03-09-2012, 06:19

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Perhaps there'll be no beneficial change, to how they enjoy their drugs, if they were legalised.

Sp there's no need to reply.

It's not like there'll be any Amsterdam style cafes they can sit getting stoned in, because of the smoking ban.

Restless · 03-09-2012, 06:31

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Perhaps there'll be no beneficial change, to how they enjoy their drugs, if they were legalised.

Only benefit would be that they would have documentation on how to use them safely and the risks of using them pointed out. Though it might amount to a pathetic warning such as "smoke them responsibly" or "don't share a needle"

A country where people can go around injecting smack and smoking crack-cocaine legally would be a weird place to live. Thank god(that i dont believe in) that these drugs ARE illegal.

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Sp there's no need to reply.

Depressing because I am happy to debate this seriously. But I am not happy to read derogatory comments added on to comments, or see it get out of hand again.

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It's not like there'll be any Amsterdam style cafes they can sit getting stoned in, because of the smoking ban.

They could use vaporizers

Mick · 03-09-2012, 06:37

Just as a side note on the ferry (Pride of Hull) in the bars there is a notice saying they cant sell tobacco or cigarettes or alcohol to those under 18.
as we entered international waters these signs where taken down
on the way back when within the 3 mile limit they where put back up hehe

garinda · 03-09-2012, 06:46

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Only benefit would be that they would have documentation on how to use them safely and the risks of using them pointed out. Though it might amount to a pathetic warning such as "smoke them responsibly" or "don't share a needle"

As you've already stated you don't use illegal drugs recreationally, my asking the question wanting to know how a user's enjoyment of them would be any better if they were decriminalised, can't really be answered by yourself.

My point being, that as it stands now, there's already very little chance of anyone being prosecuted for possession of these illegal drugs, and using whatever they want to.

garinda · 03-09-2012, 06:55

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Originally Posted by Mick

Just as a side note on the ferry (Pride of Hull) in the bars there is a notice saying they cant sell tobacco or cigarettes or alcohol to those under 18.
as we entered international waters these signs where taken down
on the way back when within the 3 mile limit they where put back up hehe

They might start bringing back the pirate ships, like Caroline, so people can sail out to them for a night out, so they can enjoy a fag with their pint.

Good one for Dragons' Crack Den.

I bet Hilary would invest in my idea.

jaysay · 03-09-2012, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Mick

Just as a side note on the ferry (Pride of Hull) in the bars there is a notice saying they cant sell tobacco or cigarettes or alcohol to those under 18.
as we entered international waters these signs where taken down
on the way back when within the 3 mile limit they where put back up here

It would appear that GB is the only country who care about what young people do Mick, well in principle that is, in reality they're all the same, or whats in a notice

kestrelx · 03-09-2012, 10:17

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As you've already stated you don't use illegal drugs recreationally, my asking the question wanting to know how a user's enjoyment of them would be any better if they were decriminalised, can't really be answered by yourself.

My point being, that as it stands now, there's already very little chance of anyone being prosecuted for possession of these illegal drugs, and using whatever they want to.

Well the first thing that would change in a users enjoyment is they would no longer have to fear getting pulled up by the Law and arrested. I think perhaps the prospect of breaking the law as it stands can affect the enjoyment of drug use on some occasions.

garinda · 03-09-2012, 10:43

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Well the first thing that would change in a users enjoyment is they would no longer have to fear getting pulled up by the Law and arrested. I think perhaps the prospect of breaking the law as it stands can affect the enjoyment of drug use on some occasions.

As stated earlier, of all the hundreds, probably thousands of people I've met who take illegal recreational drugs, in the last twenty odd years not one of them has been charged with possesion for personal use.

So that argument doesn't really wash.

garinda · 03-09-2012, 10:50

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Well the first thing that would change in a users enjoyment is they would no longer have to fear getting pulled up by the Law and arrested. I think perhaps the prospect of breaking the law as it stands can affect the enjoyment of drug use on some occasions.

As my question said it was quite clearly aimed at those who currently use recreational drugs, and you've posted that you no longer do, I can't really understand why you added your opinion, after earlier today saying this...

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I can't be bothrered argueing anymore.

kestrelx · 03-09-2012, 10:58

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As my question said it was quite clearly aimed at those who currently use recreational drugs, and you've posted that you no longer do, I can't really understand why you added your opinion, after earlier today saying this...

That's what I said "can't be bothered Argueing!" and it seems you are hell bent on starting argueing again - so I won't take you up on it!

Argueing and discussing something are two different things.

I don't do any illegal drugs at all. Don't even smoke for 3 1/2 years. Coffee and tea are my addiction with a bit of alcohol every now and again.

garinda · 03-09-2012, 11:08

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That's what I said "can't be bothered Argueing!" and it seems you are hell bent on starting argueing again - so I won't take you up on it!

I don't do any illegal drugs at all. Don't even smoke for 3 1/2 years. Coffee and tea are my addiction with a bit of alcohol every now and again.

As stated, you've said you no longer take recreational drugs, so my question, asking how it will be benefical to those who freely use them now, who don't face prosecution for possession, clearly wasn't aimed at you, because you can't answer.

I just wondered why you'd therefore posted, after earlier today saying you wouldn't, that's all.