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andyd 18-07-2020 18:23

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Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1242163)
Re Crowd return;

All; you are mentioning the information in the 85 page draft document

It ain't going to be easy and might (not my preference) the suggested use of face masks

1 metre space; at all times from the "walk in" to the "walk out" unless you can prove that your mate is "family" or in your "social bubble of 6"

Same will apply on concourses and Sportsbar.

We're in a reasonable place due to the lack of cover on the "concourses"

Is there anything on entry and exit procedures and any substance in allocated entry times?

cashman 18-07-2020 18:25

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probably way to early for stuff like that yet andy?

Mr T 18-07-2020 19:28

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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1242164)
Is there anything on entry and exit procedures and any substance in allocated entry times?

Loads;

Pages 40 - 82


isn't going to be simple; like me:rolleyes:

monkey hanger 19-07-2020 07:40

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[QUOTE=Mr T;1242163]Re Crowd return;

All; you are mentioning the information in the 85 page draft document

bet that makes exciting bed time reading, especially once its translated into english that everyone can understand.

andyd 19-07-2020 07:47

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1242168]
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Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 1242163)
Re Crowd return;

All; you are mentioning the information in the 85 page draft document

bet that makes exciting bed time reading, especially once its translated into english that everyone can understand.

As Mr.T mentioned it ain't going to be simple and there will be costs presumably implementing various new measures that will be put in place, the match experience initially will be totally different and hopefully I,m wrong won't be to everyone,s taste.

monkey hanger 19-07-2020 09:47

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[QUOTE=andyd;1242170]
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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1242168)

the match experience initially will be totally different and hopefully I,m wrong won't be to everyone,s taste.

if the match experiance even without face coverings is anything like our shopping trip to Colne yesterday they can count me out for one.

andyd 19-07-2020 11:36

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1242180]
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Originally Posted by andyd (Post 1242170)

if the match experiance even without face coverings is anything like our shopping trip to Colne yesterday they can count me out for one.

Know exactly what you mean think unfortunately a lot will be the same

cashman 19-07-2020 12:36

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wont make the slightest difference to me, soon as i can go stanley, i am doing simple as,

andyd 19-07-2020 14:40

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1242194)
wont make the slightest difference to me, soon as i can go stanley, i am doing simple as,

It will certainly be different and I will probably be there it's the lads who like to congregate and sing together and make an all day of it who it might just affect the most and not just at Stanley.

AccyMad 19-07-2020 16:06

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1242194)
wont make the slightest difference to me, soon as i can go stanley, i am doing simple as,

That's one thing we definitely agree on Cashy, the Wham is one place I won't mind queuing to get into

andyd 19-07-2020 16:40

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1242211)
That's one thing we definitely agree on Cashy, the Wham is one place I won't mind queuing to get into

Way things are going you will probably have an allocated time slot.

Chewbacca 19-07-2020 17:07

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The key thing for me in the SGSA document is that it relies on the Govs social distancing measure the time. Even at 1 metre they have 2 methods of calculating it.

The first interpretation would allow more people in as doesn't take into account the average size of a person and measures 50 cm from the centre of a person's head and it calls this Method 1. This method reduces seating capacity by around 66%.

Method 2 takes into account the average girth of an individual and reduces the seating capacity by 78%.

The above calculation on based on people attending in groups of 1, 2,3 & 4 with individuals the most common and the larger groups least common.


For terraced areas method 1 allows in double the amount of method 2, with 0.8 metres squared for 1 and 1.6 for 2. For example the 1800 Coppice stand being 45 x 8 metres reduces to either 450 or 225 a 75% or 87.5% reduction.

Worst case under method 2 I reckon we are looking at a 965 and under method 1 there would be 1,530 - the latter is similar to the current number of ST holders.

At least stanley don't have any vomitories to worry about, unless the death metal band from Sweden turn up.

choirboy 19-07-2020 20:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1242213)
The key thing for me in the SGSA document is that it relies on the Govs social distancing measure the time. Even at 1 metre they have 2 methods of calculating it.

The first interpretation would allow more people in as doesn't take into account the average size of a person and measures 50 cm from the centre of a person's head and it calls this Method 1. This method reduces seating capacity by around 66%.

Method 2 takes into account the average girth of an individual and reduces the seating capacity by 78%.

The above calculation on based on people attending in groups of 1, 2,3 & 4 with individuals the most common and the larger groups least common.


For terraced areas method 1 allows in double the amount of method 2, with 0.8 metres squared for 1 and 1.6 for 2. For example the 1800 Coppice stand being 45 x 8 metres reduces to either 450 or 225 a 75% or 87.5% reduction.

Worst case under method 2 I reckon we are looking at a 965 and under method 1 there would be 1,530 - the latter is similar to the current number of ST holders.

At least stanley don't have any vomitories to worry about, unless the death metal band from Sweden turn up.

Wow Chewbacca! This is the first detailed information that I have seen about ‘Distancing’ since the pandemic started! When the 2 meter rule was introduced I pondered in some depth just what that actually meant..... Did ‘2 meters‘ ... mean the distance between centre lines of torsos? Or shoulder to shoulder distance? Or distance between sideways reach from fingertip to fingertip? There is clearly quite a difference here somewhat like the ‘Offside rule’ and how that is interpreted by VAR. Personally I have been ultra cautious when outdoors over the last four months and I have been somewhat dismayed at other folks lack of care regarding safe distancing when walking on footpaths and the rare occasion when venturing into a supermarket! I am still unsure about the whole relaxation coming out of ‘lockdown’, regarding things like going to the pub, eating out, going to church, watching Stanley at Whambley...? etc. I think during lockdown I have become a bit of a recluse and at the moment when I look in the mirror I now see a housebound, bearded long haired warrior somewhat akin to the ‘Wild Man of Borneo!’ I long for the return to normality whatever that will be!

andyd 20-07-2020 06:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca (Post 1242213)
The key thing for me in the SGSA document is that it relies on the Govs social distancing measure the time. Even at 1 metre they have 2 methods of calculating it.

The first interpretation would allow more people in as doesn't take into account the average size of a person and measures 50 cm from the centre of a person's head and it calls this Method 1. This method reduces seating capacity by around 66%.

Method 2 takes into account the average girth of an individual and reduces the seating capacity by 78%.

The above calculation on based on people attending in groups of 1, 2,3 & 4 with individuals the most common and the larger groups least common.


For terraced areas method 1 allows in double the amount of method 2, with 0.8 metres squared for 1 and 1.6 for 2. For example the 1800 Coppice stand being 45 x 8 metres reduces to either 450 or 225 a 75% or 87.5% reduction.

Worst case under method 2 I reckon we are looking at a 965 and under method 1 there would be 1,530 - the latter is similar to the current number of ST holders.

At least stanley don't have any vomitories to worry about, unless the death metal band from Sweden turn up.

Personally might be wrong can't see the open coppice end being used surely if you have paid for the Clayton end under cover you wouldn't fancy being picked out to stand still for a couple of hours in all weather,s not even Cashy would want that. So therefore I reckon if using 3 sides our limited capacity would be about 950.

monkey hanger 20-07-2020 07:52

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just all too complex for me. i,ll wait for Mr T to come back to tell us what the situation with crowds will be. still two and a half months to go and i imagine there could be another 85 page document coming out before october.


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