Brace yourselves in again please .... - Page 10

VALAIRIAN · 18-02-2011, 16:51

I just hope that all the Directors can find the venue......

VALAIRIAN · 18-02-2011, 16:58

Patience is running out with football clubs and their debts.......

BBC Sport - Football - Southend United face new winding-up petition

VALAIRIAN · 18-02-2011, 17:03

At least some clubs can get P.F.A. Help!!!!

BBC Sport - Football - PFA loan money to Plymouth Argyle's unpaid players

lancsdave · 18-02-2011, 17:05

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN

Patience is running out with football clubs and their debts.......

BBC Sport - Football - Southend United face new winding-up petition

There was an article on the other day about football debt in general
BBC Sport - Football - Football League chairman Clarke delivers debt warning

VALAIRIAN · 18-02-2011, 17:20

Our future...

K_P_1670.jpg :: QPR v Accrington Stanley

in his hands.....

mab · 18-02-2011, 17:22

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN

At least some clubs can get P.F.A. Help!!!!

BBC Sport - Football - PFA loan money to Plymouth Argyle's unpaid players

Well doesn't that tell you something in its self Joe,if stanley are struggling to pay wages would it not be stanley on bbc sport with a heading PFA loan.

VALAIRIAN · 18-02-2011, 17:24

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Originally Posted by mab

Well doesn't that tell you something in its self Joe,if stanley are struggling to pay wages would it not be stanley on bbc sport with a heading PFA loan.

They will not lend us anymore Mab..

Revived Red · 18-02-2011, 17:28

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

There was an article on the other day about football debt in general
BBC Sport - Football - Football League chairman Clarke delivers debt warning

Where does the Premier League stand in all this? It is the greed manifested there that has had a knock-on effect in the Football League, yet many Premier League clubs seem able to accrue huge debts without any kind of problem.

lancsdave · 18-02-2011, 17:32

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Originally Posted by Revived Red

Where does the Premier League stand in all this? It is the greed manifested there that has had a knock-on effect in the Football League, yet many Premier League clubs seem able to accrue huge debts without any kind of problem.

Totally agree RR. The whole football system is devoid of logic and full of greed. The rules hould be the same for all. Was looking at Football League rules the other day ( geek time

). If Stanley don't file last years accounts by the end of the month they are under a transfer embargo, as would any other league 1 & 2 club. However the Championship teams can take another 12 months

VALAIRIAN · 18-02-2011, 17:35

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

Totally agree RR. The whole football system is devoid of logic and full of greed. The rules hould be the same for all. Was looking at Football League rules the other day ( geek time

). If Stanley don't file last years accounts by the end of the month they are under a transfer embargo, as would any other league 1 & 2 club. However the Championship teams can take another 12 months

That sounds fair, what about the P.L. Do they get another 12 mths?????

lancsdave · 18-02-2011, 17:37

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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN

That sounds fair, what about the P.L. Do they get another 12 mths?????

No idea, didn't check their rules, I do have a life you know

katei77 · 18-02-2011, 18:09

well we know we owe money to whoever it may be but hopefully the tax mans debt is some where in the middle of the 30/100k the less it is the better

fans are left shaking their heads for a few more days and wondering

my only hope is that clear information is given by all parties then we all know what hymn sheet we r singing from

katei77 · 18-02-2011, 18:15

seems very unfair that clubs in higher leagues seem to be given more slack over accounts then lower clubs FL rules should be the same in all leagues ........level playing field all round

Bagpuss · 18-02-2011, 18:29

I love this thread, what about the 40k owed to local businesses?

shakermaker · 18-02-2011, 18:38

It is puzzling how some think that the only possible alternative to a closed meeting in the Gazelle was to 'hunt for ages to find a venue in which a herd of Red fans would heckle and bay for blood'. I would like to know when and where this precedent for Stanley fans 'baying for blood' was set. It must have been a traumatic experience for it to have affected considerations on how to treat fan meetings in such a way. Crikey.

Anyway, this isn't about who was or who wasn't invited to a meeting (although it is all-so-easy for those invited to accuse those non-present of being jealous of an invite). To divide our fanbase over such a trivial matter would be farcical.

It's just quite clear to me and several others that this meeting was a misguided, mistimed and possibly misinformed cock-up.

For once I find myself agreeing with Katei. Until the club admits these claims, HMRC issue a winding-up order or some other creditor gets the bailiffs in, all we have is word of mouth. (That's not to knock the credibility of anyone at the meeting or giving out information.)

As Stanley fans we have learned to 'believe it when we see it'. Whether it's coming from the club or a fan nominated to the board, skepticism must be employed both ways. There's just too much crap flying about to believe it all. We can only trust original sources. It might be different for some of you, but I don't count a fan nominated to the board as an original source. And I repeat, that's not knocking anyone's stature, reputation or character.

I don't doubt that the club is in deep dogchod. It's quite clear to anyone who has come within two miles of an abacus in their lifetime that Stanley cannot support itself with the way that it is run. However, the stories are all-too-blurred and feelings are running all-too-high at the moment. It's much easier to see when the dust settles.

I'd rather wait 'til we hear from Ilyas.