The value of public funded art - Page 21

katex · 30-10-2010, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Less

Where will they shop?

Tesco? only a spit from were the Market Hall will have been.

Who knows Less .. no one has a Crystal Ball ... 'every little helps'

Less · 30-10-2010, 19:53

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Originally Posted by katex

'every little helps'

Not if your floundering rather than swimming up Broadway!

(my Victorian values out on public display once more).

garinda · 30-10-2010, 19:57

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Originally Posted by katex

In YOUR opinion. Again subjective.

It's not subjective.

It's a fact.

Flash mobs cannot be described as modern.

They could have been ten years ago, when they first happened.

They could have been in the sixties, when their precursor, the art happenings, were first produced.

A decade latter they are neither cutting edge, innovative, or 'modern'.

If you think those long haired louts, the Rolling Stones, are a threat to society, flash mobs might seem shockingly new...and a modern concept.

Less · 30-10-2010, 20:01

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Originally Posted by garinda

It's not subjective.

It's a fact.

Flash mobs cannot be described as modern.

They could have been ten years ago, when they first happened.

They could have been in the sixties, when their precursor, the art happenings, were first produced.

A decade latter they are neither cutting edge, innovative, or 'modern'.

If you think those long haired louts, the Rolling Stones, are a threat to society, flash mobs might seem shockingly new...and a modern concept.

I'll give you a very ageist 'Rock On' for that.

garinda · 30-10-2010, 20:07

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Originally Posted by garinda

It's not subjective.

It's a fact.

Flash mobs cannot be described as modern.

They could have been ten years ago, when they first happened.

They could have been in the sixties, when their precursor, the art happenings, were first produced.

A decade latter they are neither cutting edge, innovative, or 'modern'.

If you think those long haired louts, the Rolling Stones, are a threat to society, flash mobs might seem shockingly new...and a modern concept.

...and the thing that is very relevant to this thread, when they were modern, new, and literally had thousands of people taking part in them...THEY DIDN'T COST A PENNY TO STAGE!

Which to some I suppose sounds an old fashioned concept. No wonga being paid to anyone else to produce them.

How quaint.

katex · 30-10-2010, 20:12

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Originally Posted by garinda

It's not subjective.

It's a fact.

Flash mobs cannot be described as modern.

They could have been ten years ago, when they first happened.

They could have been in the sixties, when their precursor, the art happenings, were first produced.

A decade latter they are neither cutting edge, innovative, or 'modern'.

If you think those long haired louts, the Rolling Stones, are a threat to society, flash mobs might seem shockingly new...and a modern concept.

Well, takes a decade to reach us Northerners...

Less · 30-10-2010, 20:16

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Originally Posted by garinda

...and the thing that is very relevant to this thread, when they were modern, new, and literally had thousands of people taking part in them...THEY DIDN'T COST A PENNY TO STAGE!

Which to some I suppose sounds an old fashioned concept. No wonga being paid to anyone else to produce them.

How quaint.

I bet they were just as annoying to the shop keepers that were interrupted from trying to earn a crust?

Anyway, I may not reply for a while Yesterday is showing the film The Colditz Story, call it what you will, a touch trivial perhaps but I find we all need to find something to escape to rather than this bullshine!

katex · 30-10-2010, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Less

I bet they were just as annoying to the shop keepers that were interrupted from trying to earn a crust?

Anyway, I may not reply for a while Yesterday is showing the film The Colditz Story, call it what you will, a touch trivial perhaps but I find we all need to find something to escape to rather than this bullshine!

And I'm off to eat and watch a scary movie ...which will be negated after this thread.. LOL.

In the meantime, have thoughts on how you would tempt people into the centre. Only fair ...at least A-B did try.

cashman · 30-10-2010, 20:27

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Originally Posted by katex

As far as I can see, it is all about marketing and an attempt to give the centre a feel good factor and fun instead of the supermarket aisles.

a very poor attempt,if thats what it is, summat like the skateboarders on broadway a few years back, very artistic,

frightening the elderly as they whizzed past, knocking em occasionally, purely accidental, really makes em feel good.

garinda · 30-10-2010, 20:30

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Originally Posted by katex

Well, takes a decade to reach us Northerners...

Good job The Beatles didn't have that backward thinking, defeatist, apologetic, and ever so humble attitude.

They'd never have stormed the world, inventing (modern for the time) pop music.

Nor those great northern minds, who a few centuries earlier had given the world a very modern industrial revolution.

garinda · 30-10-2010, 20:35

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Originally Posted by katex

And I'm off to eat and watch a scary movie ...which will be negated after this thread.. LOL.

In the meantime, have thoughts on how you would tempt people into the centre. Only fair ...at least A-B did try.

Inernational Chav and Chavette of the Year.

I'm serious by the way.

Accy is on many websites as being Chav central.

Celebrate and build on the negative

Trackie, swimwear, how they'd spend the winnings.

It'd get more publicity than a naff, out dated, flash mob.

Give, give, give.

That's me.

garinda · 30-10-2010, 20:37

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Originally Posted by garinda

Inernational Chav and Chavette of the Year.

I'm serious by the way.

Accy is on many websites as being Chav central.

Celebrate and build on the negative

Trackie, swimwear, how they'd spend the winnings.

It'd get more publicity than a naff, out dated, flash mob.

Give, give, give.

That's me.

...and it would cost very little.

A family bucket of K.F.C., every month for a year, for the winner.

Margaret Pilkington · 30-10-2010, 20:45

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Originally Posted by katex

Can't have 'modern' heritage Margaret ...

Dancing is not an art then ? Always thought it was.

Gotta' move on ya' know. These events don't have to be linked with our heritage .... that is not what it is all about.

While some dancing is an art......Ballet, cultural(as in Hungarian, Russian, or Balinese)...but 'Flashmob'...don't think it quite makes it...well not for me anyway.

And while these events don't have to be linked to our heritage, wouldn't it be much better if they were? or am I being a bit old fashioned here?
I just think it is all smoke and mirrors, that doesn't do much for our locality, and at a cost that could be better spent elsewhere......only my opinion, you understand.

Margaret Pilkington · 30-10-2010, 20:53

The way to get people back to Accrington is to attract shops that people want to shop in.
If there is a need to put on arty things then do them in the appropriate venue with the right kind of publicity beforehand. We have a wonderful Town Hall that would be perfect for exhibitions or craft type things. Hold antique and Curio fairs......something that is one step up from the flea market.

I don't mind buskers...they are individual. Like the chap who plays foot tapping music in the centre of Manchester........I like the pavement artists....again can be seen in Manchester...their skill is amazing.
None of this is contrived, and it costs what the passer by is willing to give

cashman · 30-10-2010, 21:24

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

The way to get people back to Accrington is to attract shops that people want to shop in.
If there is a need to put on arty things then do them in the appropriate venue with the right kind of publicity beforehand. We have a wonderful Town Hall that would be perfect for exhibitions or craft type things. Hold antique and Curio fairs......something that is one step up from the flea market.

I don't mind buskers...they are individual. Like the chap who plays foot tapping music in the centre of Manchester........I like the pavement artists....again can be seen in Manchester...their skill is amazing.
None of this is contrived, and it costs what the passer by is willing to give

Agree- a Flashmob will i reckon drive people home.