Question for Graham Jones re Amy Houston - Page 2

lancsdave · 17-12-2010, 17:07

They should also deport the stupid woman who had his kids, no doubt for a fee

Margaret Pilkington · 17-12-2010, 20:44

It looks like the government is going to take this case to a higher appeal......I do hope someone with some sense can see that this man should be booted out of the country.

cashman · 17-12-2010, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

It looks like the government is going to take this case to a higher appeal......I do hope someone with some sense can see that this man should be booted out of the country.

think most people do, i aint much faith in it happening though.

Bonnyboy · 17-12-2010, 21:37

Maybe some sort of sliding scale should be introduced. The greater the crime against society, the greater proportion of your “Human Rights” are lost. Intentionally kill someone then you are on the basics. Food, water and just enough warmth to keep you alive.

Tthe Act certainly needs to be amended or it will continue to be abused/exploited

cashman · 17-12-2010, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Maybe some sort of sliding scale should be introduced. The greater the crime against society, the greater proportion of your “Human Rights” are lost. Intentionally kill someone then you are on the basics. Food, water and just enough warmth to keep you alive.

Tthe Act certainly needs to be amended or it will continue to be abused/exploited

Do all countries follow this act to the letter?

if not no need to amend/scrap etc just do as others do.

DaveinGermany · 17-12-2010, 21:49

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Originally Posted by cashman

Do all countries follow this act to the letter?

if not no need to amend/scrap etc just do as others do.

Don't think so, appears to be only UK so hell bent on self destruction by slavishly following the rules, look at France, Italy even Germany have sent people packing if they've deemed it necessary. And all these are Countries in the heart of & fully integrated to the EU & its policies. Something not right somewhere.

Retlaw · 17-12-2010, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

Maybe some sort of sliding scale should be introduced. The greater the crime against society, the greater proportion of your “Human Rights” are lost. Intentionally kill someone then you are on the basics. Food, water and just enough warmth to keep you alive.

Tthe Act certainly needs to be amended or it will continue to be abused/exploited

We don't need a sliding scale, any one who is convicted of a crime should loose all claim to human rights, and proper punishment meetted out, then immediate deportation, no matter what, and the woolly minded do gooders who support them, should be made to fully support them, ie, financial support for life, or be deported with them.

Retlaw.

cashman · 17-12-2010, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

We don't need a sliding scale, any one who is convicted of a crime should loose all claim to human rights, and proper punishment meetted out, then immediate deportation, no matter what, and the woolly minded do gooders who support them, should be made to fully support them, ie, financial support for life, or be deported with them.

Retlaw.

That would sure get me voting again.

Bonnyboy · 17-12-2010, 22:36

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

We don't need a sliding scale, any one who is convicted of a crime should loose all claim to human rights, and proper punishment meetted out, then immediate deportation, no matter what, and the woolly minded do gooders who support them, should be made to fully support them, ie, financial support for life, or be deported with them.

Retlaw.

A sliding scale may not be the answer, think deportation and human rights being withheld is a bit harsh for motoring offences and the like.

Maybe the problem is our justice system as a whole.

cashman · 17-12-2010, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

A sliding scale may not be the answer, think deportation and human rights being withheld is a bit harsh for motoring offences and the like.

Maybe the problem is our justice system as a whole.

this was a bit more than a motoring offense, as well as n already "Failed Asylum Seeker"

plus more offences since he killed the lass. the way i see this is simple, if yer driving wi No License,No Insurance, its a Criminal Offence not a motoring offense.

DaveinGermany · 17-12-2010, 22:46

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

any one who is convicted of a crime should loose all claim to human rights, and proper punishment meetted out, then immediate deportation, no matter what, and the woolly minded do gooders who support them, should be made to fully support them, ie, financial support for life, or be deported with them.

Retlaw.

Preaching to the converted my friend ! I said something similar in the thread "Tough on Crime & the causes" going back a while. 110% agree

Bonnyboy · 17-12-2010, 22:53

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Originally Posted by cashman

this was a bit more than a motoring offense, as well as n already "Failed Asylum Seeker"

plus more offences since he killed the lass. the way i see this is simple, if yer driving wi No License,No Insurance, its a Criminal Offence not a motoring offense.

Wasn’t suggesting that this particular crime was a motoring offence Cashy, although I’m wondering if that’s all that the Court have treated it as.

I see no reason why he shouldn't be deported, his family could join him at his own expense

accyman · 17-12-2010, 23:39

didnt our country deport a uk citizen to america because he hacked nasa's computer yet we cant deport an illigal murdering imigrant who repeatedly breaks the law.

i hope this dosnt give other illigals any ideas because it seems to be that if you fail asylum all you have to do is kill somone and you get to stay.

hopefully graham will be able to tell us what is been said about this amongs mps's and more importantly what is been suggested been done to rid teh uk of him

jaysay · 18-12-2010, 08:59

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Originally Posted by cashman

think most people do, i aint much faith in it happening though.

I lost faith in our judicial system a long time ago cashy, it must be written in the law books that judges are not allowed to use common sense, mind you if they did use common sense there would be some smart arsed human rights lawyer there to put him straight t our expense

Margaret Pilkington · 18-12-2010, 09:02

No they didn't extradite him to the USA, but, if my memory serves me right, the family of this autistic man are still fighting this order.
Useless Jack Straw who was the Home secretary at the time, stood by and did not so blooming much.

Now if the shoe were on the other foot the Yanks would put every ounce of muscle behind something like this.
Our Justice system is as weak as water.