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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany
I would still question that assumption Eric, the Jews have been persecuted & ostracised throughout the ages by other nationalities & religions over hundreds of years. And as such have always been moving or settling temporarily but having to constantly be looking over their collective shoulders for the next set of provocations.
Granted Germanys role in the 30's & 40's exacerbated the situation & accelerated the forced exodus/repatriation of the Jewish peoples, at least those who could & did with a great many going to the States. A Jewish Homeland already existed in Palestine at this time going back to about 1917 were some powers were seconded to the Israelis under a British mandate upheld by the UN & had been increasing in population numbers due to other pogroms long before Germanys actions.
Furthermore the New State of Israel using the 1950 law of return actively encouraged Jews from all over the word to return/settle in their own homeland. So even after wars end & the defeat of National socialism, the Holocaust many Jews were returning to Israel to avoid a new wave of persecution brought about by the Soviets rule throughout Eastern Europe & Russia itself.
And that is why we have the modern day state of Israel, as it is & where it is today. The Germans can be blamed for a lot of things, but modern day Israel is a conglomerate of circumstances & conditions.
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We are all aware ... those of us who think, anyway

... of the history of anti-semitism in Europe. And it is not surprising that Zionism became popular among many Jews. But Zionists always faced the problem of trying to attract Jews to migrate to a Jewish homeland in Israel. U.S. jews in particular, and those in the more enlightened parts of Europe ... Weimar Republic comes to mind ... were quite happy to donate large sums of cash, but had no interest in moving. Chaim Weizmann, whose development of a process to produce acetone through bacterial fermentation was of immense value to the allied war effort, and Lord Balfour, along with Churchill, who was always a friend to the Jews, engineered the Balfour Declaration. However, it was not until the early 40s that the idea of a Jewish state in Israel took off. And it should not be too difficult to figure out why this was so. The timing was not accidental. Everything that happened in the Middle East after 1948 can be traced to the effects of German militarism ... kriegslustig. If there had been no holocaust, the State of Israel, as it exists today, would not have developed.
In the twentieth century, Germany started (and lost) two world wars. We are still suffering the effects of the major dislocations that arose from those conflicts. The modern geo-political map, and the American military-industrial complex, would not exist as they do today had it not been for the Third Reich. The German aim was to control Europe. And it looks as if that control is now within their grasp.