every word you said bob is true! If people want to be upset by the truth its there fault! go to the asda 2 packs of ale 20 quid,there is supposed to be a beer mountain of carlsberg, stella, and carling if so why dont they sell it to the pubs cheap who can pass it on to the consumer.everyone is entitled to make a dime but the brewerys want everything!the government dont help either with the duty they put on ale,before long the community local will be a thing of the past! we try and put entertainment on and you only just might break even if your lucky!went down the town myself last week 2 bottles of bud....just short of six quid.....then the owners of these clubs want to know why its DEAD!!! it beggars belief.