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Originally Posted by Less
I am unemployed, I do claim, I am not sponging off the Government, I have contributed all my life I'm taking out a little of what I've put in.
If you are entitled to claim the system is there to allow you to claim, it is those that have a very narrow outlook that consider all the unemployed to be spongers and scroungers because it makes them feel better having someone to blame, this, I consider to be morally wrong.
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I worded it wrong-if *I* had been on the dole, when I could walk into a job VERY easily, and I had money and means of getting money if I needed some, *I* would have been sponging.
Many others also do stay on the dole when they could work and they do not make an effort to, preferring to not work. However I truly don't think everybody on the dole is sponging, apologies if it sounded like that.
Benefits are there for those who need them, and when I was unemployed, I didn't need them.
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Originally Posted by mobertol
My son's girlfriend, Martina, was a vegetarian and tried to be a vegan for some time -in the end she had a load of problems with allergies and her health was suffering (she's intollerant to zinc anmong other things) so her doctor advised her to return to a "normal" diet without many things which contain zinc - she will now eat lean meat but nothing on the bone or with fat -sort of squeamish I suppose. Her reason for becoming vegetarian was a moral one against the battery rearing of animals for food and connected mis-treatment.
You say you are a vegan - was it a conscious choice or just something that happened over time. Do you wear leather, do you eat cheese made with rennet or just the veggie sort, will you drink milk, I suppose you won't eat eggs. Not trying to be polemic just to understand how you can follow through such a difficult choice of lifestyle...
Forgot to mention I have a friend who gave up eating meat as a student 'cos she coulnt afford it and has never eaten it since (30yrs) -that's what I mean by it just happenng over time...
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If you don't look after your diet (even if you do eat animal products) you can end up deficient. It's easy to not be deficient in anything on a vegan diet, but you do have to know what you are doing particularly when your body is used to certain things that it is no longer getting from the same sources. It was a conscious choice, due to morality. The meat industry=the dairy industry. Animals die at the hands of both and I am an animal lover hence my decision.
No, vegans don't wear leather, use dairy or consume eggs.
You aren't being polemic, however you are making assumptions.
'Such a difficult...'
It isn't difficult for me, at all. It's second nature.
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Originally Posted by Less
Not pride, perhaps it's morally wrong to take a job you are over-qualified for?
You take this job and someone less qualified but with a better mindset to be able to do the job is thrown onto the dole instead of you.
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Yes I'd say that's a possible scenario..
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Originally Posted by susie123
Well said Less, you are in the position that my partner has been in several times during his working life . You are entitled to the measly sum doled out by the government, it's not sponging. Having read your recent blog it is all too easy for employers to take advantage of folks in your situation.
I do find it difficult however to condone the attitude of those who, having been out of work for whatever reason for x number of years, keep on producing children for the state to support and then demand a bigger house for the family while they all sit at home watching sky tv with a fag in their hand. Yes I now that's a stereotype but I guess the benefits system has made this a lifestyle choice for them while making it hard for singles and couples who want to work.
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^^That also drives me nuts. I know the 'fat cats' generally are as much to blame as the type of people who behave like that,and I won't deny it probably is the fact I am more exposed to the latter, that makes me so angry about it. Then again, how many people would go to work, to get less money , than they get for NOT going to work? I think that happens often with the current benefits system.