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Eric · 17-09-2012, 13:40

We can debate this until hell freezes over. There is, however, a point we are missing. You can't involve yourselves in a serious, reasoned, logical debate with muslims. You can't do it with "born-again" Christians either. Who's that local nutbar whose name pops up sometimes on here? Ken somebody or other is it? Imagine a discussion with him. Fairly soon into the debate, he grabs his dog-eared copy of the Bible and states: "As Jesus said in Mark .... ". Hold on there, buddy! Were these his actual words? And who is this Jesus anyway? Is there a well-documented historical record of his existence? (Of course, there isn't

) And the argument is over. Reason, logic, compromise don't work. It's reason vs. faith. You can't argue with a muslim either, 'cause sooner than later you run head-first into the goddam koran

OMG, did I say "goddam koran"? What would that get me in Pakistan? If I were lucky enough to avoid lynching on the way to jail, I would probably be convicted of blasphemy and be executed. It was the same at Munich. Chamberlain, no doubt an honourable gentleman in that fine English tradition of hounour and fair play, actually thought he had convinced the Nazis to be reasonble. Peace in our time, eh.

Here's an artist's impression of Hitler and Mussolini after Munich:

There was only one argument the Germans would understand. It was called WW ll.

And there is only one argument that will convince Islam ... and that argument comes out of the business end of a gun. Not some mickey mouse action like the one in Afghanistan ... what were we doing there anyway; I'm not clear on that point

Were we there to build schools and hospitals, and train their police and army so that they were better equipped to turn their weapons on us? Or were we there to fight the Taliban

There have already been several wake-up calls; but all we did was hit the snooze button. July 7, 2005. Now that was one big mother of an alarm clock going off. And the bombers? Where did they come from? Mmmm.

And now this latest crisis. Even the usually bellicose yanks are asleep at the switch.

Neil Macdonald: A mighty nation, frightened by an angry mob - World - CBC News

The fecal matter is headed for the swiftly roatating object folks. It's time to duck, or to pull the plug on the fan.

Like it or lump it, that's what I think.

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Eric God Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,290 Liked: 2347 times Rep Power: 58528	Re: Super mosque in doubt We can debate this until hell freezes over. There is, however, a point we are missing. You can't involve yourselves in a serious, reasoned, logical debate with muslims. You can't do it with "born-again" Christians either. Who's that local nutbar whose name pops up sometimes on here? Ken somebody or other is it? Imagine a discussion with him. Fairly soon into the debate, he grabs his dog-eared copy of the Bible and states: "As Jesus said in Mark .... ". Hold on there, buddy! Were these his actual words? And who is this Jesus anyway? Is there a well-documented historical record of his existence? (Of course, there isn't) And the argument is over. Reason, logic, compromise don't work. It's reason vs. faith. You can't argue with a muslim either, 'cause sooner than later you run head-first into the goddam koran OMG, did I say "goddam koran"? What would that get me in Pakistan? If I were lucky enough to avoid lynching on the way to jail, I would probably be convicted of blasphemy and be executed. It was the same at Munich. Chamberlain, no doubt an honourable gentleman in that fine English tradition of hounour and fair play, actually thought he had convinced the Nazis to be reasonble. Peace in our time, eh. Here's an artist's impression of Hitler and Mussolini after Munich: There was only one argument the Germans would understand. It was called WW ll. And there is only one argument that will convince Islam ... and that argument comes out of the business end of a gun. Not some mickey mouse action like the one in Afghanistan ... what were we doing there anyway; I'm not clear on that point Were we there to build schools and hospitals, and train their police and army so that they were better equipped to turn their weapons on us? Or were we there to fight the Taliban There have already been several wake-up calls; but all we did was hit the snooze button. July 7, 2005. Now that was one big mother of an alarm clock going off. And the bombers? Where did they come from? Mmmm. And now this latest crisis. Even the usually bellicose yanks are asleep at the switch. Neil Macdonald: A mighty nation, frightened by an angry mob - World - CBC News The fecal matter is headed for the swiftly roatating object folks. It's time to duck, or to pull the plug on the fan. Like it or lump it, that's what I think. Last edited by Eric; 17-09-2012 at 13:44.