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Old 12-10-2012, 19:19   #55
Gordon Booth
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Re: Sir! Would you like a milkshake?

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Originally Posted by annesingleton View Post
I am relaying correct safeguarding procedures -
Safeguarding who? The young thug or the teacher?
with regard to use of restraint, not giving my own personal definition. And as for the fact that no complaint was made, again safeguarding procedures would expect that any inappropriate behaviour should be investigated regardless of whether a complaint had been made-
What about the young thugs inappropiate behaviour? Will that be investigated and punished?
The school authority had a duty to investigate through the correct safeguarding channels (safeguarding used to be known as child protection).
As for removing the pupil from the classroom, if he refused to leave when told, then the teacher should have called for assistance immediately.
Then what happens? He refuses to be removed and makes 2 teachers look fools rather than 1?Can 2 touch him where 1 can't?

And I agree about the human element and reacting instinctively - I work with some violent and dangerous young people who can test the patience to say the least. I have had extensive training in avoiding and managing disruptive behaviour and risk managing situations.
So you avoid taking them on and they get away with it and know they can do it again?
I would say that the main criteria is to keep yourself physically safe whilst ensuring the safety of the young person and others present - for the adult to involve themselves in a physical altercation could well escalate the situation and significantly increase the risk.
So the safety of the young person takes priority, followed by yours if you can?
If you let a bully get away with it(whether they're 5, 15 or 50) they will carry on doing it. Your reasonableness is seen as weakness
You're quoting 'Correct safeguarding procedures', Ann. Do you agree with them or are they imposed on you against your better judgement?
More important, how many of these young persons have you converted to a better way of life and behaviour? And how many have ridden over you roughshod?
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