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Old 19-12-2012, 16:58   #66
Wynonie Harris
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Originally Posted by Eric View Post
I'm no apologist for Stalinism ... not an easy task for anyone, however, commited he is to socialism ... but in terms of degree, I do believe the Nazis were worse. Ok millions starved in the Ukraine during the soviet version of the agricultural revolution ... revisionist history, the mock trials, the Gulags etc etc. But after the war the Soviets did what the French would have liked to do in 1919, only to a greater degree. And Hungary? German allies and mass murderers of jews. Romania? German allies and mass murderers of jews. East Germans? Nazis, and murderers of anyone they could lay their hands on.

Many lay some of the blame for WWll on the 1939 non-aggression pact. But a reading of the history of the time reveals that if the Franco-British alliance had not been so anti-soviet, they could possibly have had the same alliance with Russia. However, the Russians did not start the war, and after they were invaded by the Germans, their commitment to victory over the Nazis was unreserved.
How could the Nazis be worse "in terms of degree"? I admit I don't have the figures to hand and figures can be manipulated, but I've read somewhere that the Soviet system was responsible for more deaths than the Nazis. Even if not true, I don't see how the Nazis were worse than the Soviets. As for the enslavement of Eastern Europe after the war, was Poland a German ally? I thought that's how we got involved because the Nazis invaded them? As for countries like Hungary being German allies, is the replacement of one evil, repressive system with another evil, repressive system progress? The Soviet Union was a brutal, murderous regime which unfortunately in the past has been romanticized by woolly-minded socialists in this country.
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