[Eric]

I think that Graham has made a convincing argument, on primarily economic grounds, for staying in the EU. And I do find myself agreeing with his questioning of the government's motives. But what I see on here are folks who are concerned with more than just economics. It's a much broader based opposition. There are serious concerns about national identity, and the refusal of your government to listen to the legitimate concerns of the voters ... you know, those people who are angry at becoming invisible and, basically, a pain in the ass between elections. When Graham says "To not have a referendum [is] disappointing" he isn't coming close to understanding the anger of voters who feel they are being ignored. No, it's more than just a "feeling"; it's exactly what is happening.

By the way, just in case anyone is remotely interested, the view from this side of the pond is that Europe is an econimic basket case, and poses a major threat to economic recovery in North America.